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Superbike Schools?

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What are the requirements for superbike school training?

I want to practice on track not on the road. What are the chances I get in and how useful are the schools? Which do you recommend? How long/how many classes you have to attend to be ready for racing?

THX
 
If you're looking for the requirements for Keith Code's California Superbike School, he'll probably have some guidelines on his website.

http://www.superbikeschool.com/

Keith posts here himself, and Andy / tzrider (one of his instructors) has provided thoughtful and informative posts on riding technique here for years.

There are lots of other options that are more local. Zoom Zoom, Keigwins@theTrack, and Pacific Track Time all have different instructional programs available, and they've all received rave reviews. You might get all kinds of input on the different programs on this thread, but some forum searches might get you that information a little quicker.

http://www.pacifictracktime.com
http://www.zoomzoomtrackdays.com
http://keigwins@thetrack.com

I saw that you're looking to be "ready for racing". Have you been on the track yet?
 
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I would suggest a local school like ZZ or Keigwin novice before you go to CSS. Though I could be wrong, I don't think they want new riders.
 
afm199 said:
I would suggest a local school like ZZ or Keigwin novice before you go to CSS. Though I could be wrong, I don't think they want new riders.
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Not true, the California Superbike School welcomes new riders and we have a ton of riders that have gone through the school with only a couple hundred miles under their belt.

The key is this:

A student needs to be comfortable with command of the bike's controls and need to operate them without "thinking" about operating them because the School is focused on teaching you how to corner a motorcycle, not how to ride one.

The Superbike School is not the MSF. We expect that a rider has basic knowledge of how to operate a motorcycle, but that is all.
 
Stuman said:
Not true, the California Superbike School welcomes new riders and we have a ton of riders that have gone through the school with only a couple hundred miles under their belt.

The key is this:

A student needs to be comfortable with command of the bike's controls and need to operate them without "thinking" about operating them because the School is focused on teaching you how to corner a motorcycle, not how to ride one.

The Superbike School is not the MSF. We expect that a rider has basic knowledge of how to operate a motorcycle, but that is all.
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I think there great for new riders, I've done over 20 track days and I took there level 1 because that's where you have to start, you can't jump to a higher lever just because you got a few track days under your belt.

They have great coaching and the classes are fairly small, I was trying to do the on at sears but money is a little tight right now, you should give them a try :thumbup
 
Infineon on Oct 23

OC1 said:
What are the requirements for superbike school training?

I want to practice on track not on the road. What are the chances I get in and how useful are the schools? Which do you recommend? How long/how many classes you have to attend to be ready for racing?

THX
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You can also look at Red Shift (formerly known as the DP Safety School). Red Shift will be at Infineon on Thursday Oct 23rd and has beginner, intermediate, and advanced classes offered. For beginners, this includes classroom instruction when not on the track, FREE small group and individual instruction, and a safe and fun riding environment.

For more info, visit http://www.rideredshift.com/

Kudo's was already given to Pacific Track Time and Zoom Zoom which also offer excellent schools!

Track days will help prepare you for racing and make you a much better rider. Good luck and have fun!
 
The Zoom Zoom school helped me a lot with man of the crucial street riding elements. If you can't afford any of the schools sign up for a trackday with a provider that offers free or cheaper on track instruction. Just get out on the track and have fun, being on the track allows you to figure out how comfortable you are with your bike without having to worry about guardrails and cars making illegal u-turns on blind corners.
 
The Superbike schools are awesome! I took Level 1 as a newbie track rider and have never looked back since. I find Keith Code's methodical approach to improving skills very effective.
 
I went to 3 of their classes and was happy w/ what I learned. I believe the key is to follow the controls they set and truly focus on each drill. I saw other guys who had ridden track before go out and do half of the drill and follow half of the controls then act like the class was just ok. Go in w/ the mentality that you don't anything about riding and you'll probably learn a lot.
 
OC1 said:
What are the requirements for superbike school training?

I want to practice on track not on the road. What are the chances I get in and how useful are the schools? Which do you recommend? How long/how many classes you have to attend to be ready for racing?

THX
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OC1,

All you are going to get is opinions on schools and like all forums the opinions are going to vary with the posters' experience. It's like discussing religion and politics, you never win or lose, you just talk or argue about it.

The only way to answer your own questions is to look for yourself and decide what you really want the most and be honest about it: Be a better rider; a hot trackday guy; a racer or maybe just get your knee down and that would handle it.

There is no answer to your question about how long it takes to become ready to race.

To put it bluntly, If you have to ask, you aren't ready and chances are you never will be. When you are fast, tell me how wrong I was.

Keith
 
Keith Code said:
OC1,

All you are going to get is opinions on schools and like all forums the opinions are going to vary with the posters' experience. It's like discussing religion and politics, you never win or lose, you just talk or argue about it.

The only way to answer your own questions is to look for yourself and decide what you really want the most and be honest about it: Be a better rider; a hot trackday guy; a racer or maybe just get your knee down and that would handle it.

There is no answer to your question about how long it takes to become ready to race.

To put it bluntly, If you have to ask, you aren't ready and chances are you never will be. When you are fast, tell me how wrong I was.

Keith
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Keith,

Is your 2 day camp availible for first time students and can I ride my own bike?
 
BIG186 said:
Keith,

Is your 2 day camp availible for first time students and can I ride my own bike?
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BIG186,

Yes on the first time students part, no on ride your own bike. The Two-Day Camp format is all students ride our bikes and we provide all the gear as well.

We run two small groups, 14 riders max each group and there are 7 on-track coaches so it's two to one sometimes one on one coaching for both days.

One of the reasons everyone rides our bikes is that we have on-board video on our ZX6R camera bike and we want the video to reflect what the rider is doing. If they were jumping off say a 1098 Ducati onto a ZX6 it might feel a "little" different...!

Keith
 
A 2 day California Superbike School Camp is an EXCELLENT introduction to track riding. The instruction is very focused and skill level appropriate, and the nice thing about using the Kawi is you have ZERO mechanical or tech issues to worry about, just concentrate on the classes. Plus, it's a fun bike.
 
I took CSS 2 day camp in Las Vegas sometime in April and the results have been nothing short of amazing... I had been riding a motorcycle for only about 8 months before taking the school. I'm happy to say I'm now jumping up to "A" group @ the track and more importantly, my street riding IQ has dramatically increased...
 
Keith do we get a BARF discount? :twofinger

But seriously I had a question about your bikes vs. using my bike. Say I take your school coming from a Duc 900ss and hop on your bike, am I going to be like "Oh shit!"

How do people cope with that kind of upgrade for a couple days and go back to their own much less powerful bike using what they have learned?
 
jordan said:
Keith do we get a BARF discount? :twofinger

But seriously I had a question about your bikes vs. using my bike. Say I take your school coming from a Duc 900ss and hop on your bike, am I going to be like "Oh shit!"

How do people cope with that kind of upgrade for a couple days and go back to their own much less powerful bike using what they have learned?
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I just did 2 days at Streets of Willow on their bike. First off, the track is more technical than fast so you won't be WOT except for maybe the straight. You'll start the day using 4th gear only and no brakes. 4th gear keeps the power down and helps you to be smooth. That drill really did wonders on helping me pick up my entry speeds. Even later when we were allowed light braking, I rarely touched them. And I was going in waaay faster than ever before. That's just one example of what the class will do for you.
The bikes are set up well and well maintained. You'll do fine on it.
If you're still deciding, just sign up and you'll never regret it.
 
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