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I nearly died at the Bay Bridge Toll Plaza

oldapeman

Rookie My A$$!
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Petaluma, CA
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Old and fun one.
I am still a little shakey as I post this. I nearly died.

ME: Let me start by saying that I am a very experienced rider. I turned 60 two weeks ago, and I have been riding since I was 15 or 16. Fortunately, I have never previously crashed or gone down (dirt bike riding not included). I didn't crash today, but I did come so close that i need to talk about it.

MY BIKE: I commute almost daily accross the Bay Bridge from Berkeley to SF on one of my trusty old, but very well maintained, Kawasakis. You can see a picture of this bike and read a little about it from a post I put on the KZrider.com website last year: http://kzrider.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=107&func=view&id=185390&catid=13#185390

THE SETTING: In order to understand my near-death experience, you need to visuaize the left HOV lanes as you travel through the Bay Bridge toll plaza. There are two HOV lanes that are clearly marked both before and after the toll plaza. On the near side as you approach the toll plaza, a barrier separates the two HOV lanes from the non-HOV lanes to the right. This barrier also continues beyond the toll plaza to the metering lights, about 200 Ft. beyond the toll plaza. It is meant to keep cars from the non-HOV lanes from jumping into the HOV lanes to avoid the metering lights.

The problem is that the barrier is permeable -- it is made of those bright colored 4 ft. tall plastic tubes sticking up out of the road surface every foot or so. They are flexible, and a few are missing here and there.

Traffic was relatively light, except for the cars backed up from about 500-1000 feet before the toll plaza through the metering lights in the non-HOV lanes. The traffic in the HOV lanes was light, and flowing freely at or near the limit.

WHAT HAPPENED: I was traveling about 45 MPH [?] in HOV lane #2 (the right hand one, nearest the non-HOV lanes). Just as I entered into the tollbooth area proper, a car just beyond the toll plaza in the #3 lane crossed the plastic barriers into my lane. I could not swerve left or right, since I was hemmed in by the tollbooths and related crash barriers/separators. I had no option but to apply the brakes, and try to keep the bike upright. Fortunately I was perfectly upright, and despite nearly locking up the wheels, the bike remained straight and upright as the tires squeeled on the absolute edge of loosing traction altogether.

Despite this reduction in speed, it was clear I was going to impact the car, now fully in my lane and still nearly stopped. I was able to move to the far left side edge of my lane and, after clearing the toll booth, into some additional plastic tube barriers between the two HOV lanes for a short distance after the tollbooths. I did not have time to think about this maneuver -- it was instinctual. It saved me from hitting the car by allowing me to move alongside it on the left side of the car. I was aiming for the hole, not the object.

I landed in a safe spot, upright, splitting lanes 1 & 2, now traveling about 10 MPH as the car drove off ahead of me toward the bridge.

THE AFTERMATH: I was pissed! This SOB nearly killed me, and he was driving off without even acknowledging his misdeed. I caught up with him near the metering lights, and waved him over. He ignored me, and tried to continue on. Just at the start of the incline section, I pulled in front of him, slowed him down, and parked my bike in his path. As I got off my bike a picture flashed in my mind of me throwing a punch through his open window. I took a deap breath, and strolled back to his window. I leaned over, flipped up my visor, and said "You nearly killed me!"

His reaction showed nothing but contrition. He appologized profuselly, admitted he was wrong, and continued appologizing. I told him he needed to be more observant. He agreed. He offered his hand through the window. I shook his hand, walked back to my bike, restarted it and rode into SF. I started shaking about midway across the bridge, and am still shaking now, more than two hours later.

WHAT I DID RIGHT: I kept the bike upright, scrubbed off all possible speed, and maneuvered around the hazard at the earliest opportunity. I also avoid object fixation, and instead concentrated on the way out. I also was riding a bike with good brakes and tires, and properly operating steering.

WHAT I DID WRONG: I entered an area (the tollbooth confines) with a little too much speed considering there is limited maneuvering room. Also, I would have been safer in the #1 HOV lane, farther from the backed-up non-HOV lanes.

I hope this helps others. I am going to go for a long walk, and will check back later to view your comments.
 
Congrats on some good evasive maneuvering, escaping injury, and not killing the guy. Good thinking on your part...
 
I am still a little shakey as I post this. I nearly died.

ME: Let me start by saying that I am a very experienced rider. I turned 60 two weeks ago, and I have been riding since I was 15 or 16. Fortunately, I have never previously crashed or gone down (dirt bike riding not included). I didn't crash today, but I did come so close that i need to talk about it.

MY BIKE: I commute almost daily accross the Bay Bridge from Berkeley to SF on one of my trusty old, but very well maintained, Kawasakis. You can see a picture of this bike and read a little about it from a post I put on the KZrider.com website last year: http://kzrider.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=107&func=view&id=185390&catid=13#185390

THE SETTING: In order to understand my near-death experience, you need to visuaize the left HOV lanes as you travel through the Bay Bridge toll plaza. There are two HOV lanes that are clearly marked both before and after the toll plaza. On the near side as you approach the toll plaza, a barrier separates the two HOV lanes from the non-HOV lanes to the right. This barrier also continues beyond the toll plaza to the metering lights, about 200 Ft. beyond the toll plaza. It is meant to keep cars from the non-HOV lanes from jumping into the HOV lanes to avoid the metering lights.

The problem is that the barrier is permeable -- it is made of those bright colored 4 ft. tall plastic tubes sticking up out of the road surface every foot or so. They are flexible, and a few are missing here and there.

Traffic was relatively light, except for the cars backed up from about 500-1000 feet before the toll plaza through the metering lights in the non-HOV lanes. The traffic in the HOV lanes was light, and flowing freely at or near the limit.

WHAT HAPPENED: I was traveling about 45 MPH [?] in HOV lane #2 (the right hand one, nearest the non-HOV lanes). Just as I entered into the tollbooth area proper, a car just beyond the toll plaza in the #3 lane crossed the plastic barriers into my lane. I could not swerve left or right, since I was hemmed in by the tollbooths and related crash barriers/separators. I had no option but to apply the brakes, and try to keep the bike upright. Fortunately I was perfectly upright, and despite nearly locking up the wheels, the bike remained straight and upright as the tires squeeled on the absolute edge of loosing traction altogether.

Despite this reduction in speed, it was clear I was going to impact the car, now fully in my lane and still nearly stopped. I was able to move to the far left side edge of my lane and, after clearing the toll booth, into some additional plastic tube barriers between the two HOV lanes for a short distance after the tollbooths. I did not have time to think about this maneuver -- it was instinctual. It saved me from hitting the car by allowing me to move alongside it on the left side of the car. I was aiming for the hole, not the object.

I landed in a safe spot, upright, splitting lanes 1 & 2, now traveling about 10 MPH as the car drove off ahead of me toward the bridge.

THE AFTERMATH: I was pissed! This SOB nearly killed me, and he was driving off without even acknowledging his misdeed. I caught up with him near the metering lights, and waved him over. He ignored me, and tried to continue on. Just at the start of the incline section, I pulled in front of him, slowed him down, and parked my bike in his path. As I got off my bike a picture flashed in my mind of me throwing a punch through his open window. I took a deap breath, and strolled back to his window. I leaned over, flipped up my visor, and said "You nearly killed me!"

His reaction showed nothing but contrition. He appologized profuselly, admitted he was wrong, and continued appologizing. I told him he needed to be more observant. He agreed. He offered his hand through the window. I shook his hand, walked back to my bike, restarted it and rode into SF. I started shaking about midway across the bridge, and am still shaking now, more than two hours later.

WHAT I DID RIGHT: I kept the bike upright, scrubbed off all possible speed, and maneuvered around the hazard at the earliest opportunity. I also avoid object fixation, and instead concentrated on the way out. I also was riding a bike with good brakes and tires, and properly operating steering.

WHAT I DID WRONG: I entered an area (the tollbooth confines) with a little too much speed considering there is limited maneuvering room. Also, I would have been safer in the #1 HOV lane, farther from the backed-up non-HOV lanes.

I hope this helps others. I am going to go for a long walk, and will check back later to view your comments.

If your avatar is your picture no wonder he ran away from you :teeth

Glad that you are okay :thumbup
 
Very glad you're ok. All your riding experience and skill shows by how you handled the bike during the incident, and you showed considerable maturity by not stomping the guy to rubbery bits on the side of the road.
 
That lane scares me to death. I assume nobody needs to suggest the further one for your future commutes. :laughing

Good job staying alive!
 
WHAT I DID RIGHT: I kept the bike upright, scrubbed off all possible speed, and maneuvered around the hazard at the earliest opportunity. I also avoid object fixation, and instead concentrated on the way out. I also was riding a bike with good brakes and tires, and properly operating steering.

WHAT I DID WRONG: I entered an area (the tollbooth confines) with a little too much speed considering there is limited maneuvering room. Also, I would have been safer in the #1 HOV lane, farther from the backed-up non-HOV lanes.

I hope this helps others. I am going to go for a long walk, and will check back later to view your comments

Good job vet guy! :thumbup

Nice of you not to show that driver his dash board the hard way. He had it coming.......
 
there are some things that are beyond your control, but with your experience, you came out on top. glad you're o.k.
 
Some people are fucking clueless. The licensing system in this country is way too porous, because a lot of really HUGE douches seem to be getting them!
 
Your reaction to the driver was incredibly restrained--you caught him, let him know what he did was wrong, but got the message across without caving his stupid skull in.

And--+1 on max-effort braking, maneuvering into the open spot, and living!!!

Giving myself an extra reminder to avoid moving lanes next to stopped lanes of traffic whenever possible. It's just too much temptation for clueless people to haul it over into your lane without looking.
 
I stopped using #2 HOV lane for that very reason. Almost impossible to imagine that people are THAT stupid.
BTW 60+ is not old!!!! and is still considered fast by some
 
The only other thing I hate more than toll lanes/booths, is the merging of MANY lanes into half the amount.

Glad you're ok! :thumbup
 
Thank you everyone for your input. This certainly was a wake-up for me. I will now ride more defensively, with an even more heighted sense of awareness.

Brakes are good. So is steering. Reflexes help too.
 
I'm pretty sure there was a cruiser(?) rider killed a year or so ago in that same spot, under the same circumstances, except I think the car was going for the parking lot to turn around...
 
Sounds like your reflexes haven't slowed much, age is a state of mind.

Glad you made it out of that situation without a painful and expensive situation and were able to get the point across to the driver that almost took you out.

I don't trust anybody to not do something detrimental to me while riding. If they can I assume they might and ride accordingly. It means going a bit slower and maintaining 100% focus 100% of the time in an active (versus passive, where you just react to direct threats) manner. Not as enjoyable as just enjoying the ride but for me the small loss in enjoyment is far out-weighed by avoidance of incidents.

But, with your extensive years in riding, you have clearly practiced that but may have lost a bit of the edge in your vigilance after years of no harm.
 
Well played!

One thing I have learned to really pay attention to are 25MPH speed limit zones. These are almost only ever put in places not where excessive speed is the danger, but where there's poor visibility and high potential for objects/people to appear suddenly in your path. RUHSPECK the 25MPH zone! A moron or toddler may appear in the middle of the road when you least expect it. A 25 to 0 stop can be managed quite quickly, when even just 35 to 0 can take waay too long.
 
I stopped using #2 HOV lane for that very reason.
I've tended to avoid #2 for that reason but I think I'll avoid it all the time from now on.

Awesome evasion skills, especially considering the oily condition of the toll booths.

:thumbup

Teeny tiny props to the dumbshit for acknowleging his fucktardedness. :rolleyes
 
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