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Westcoast connection annual ride Crash on bridge

Twenty riders isn't that small. The crash didn't happen on the group ride, it sounds like more of a drop than a crash, and it didn't block a freeway.

We had ~ 70 riders in Hawthorne. The only crash that I know of was on a desert track. BARF rides happen all the time without crashes.

20 would be a medium sized ride. But still, ride isn't over until everyone makes it home in one piece. You say it sounded like a small crash. So was the crash on the bridge, the guy picked the bike up and rode off the bridge. There was a lot more than 20 bikes on that bridge.

As for further away rides like to Hawthorne, I love those because people tend to behave better when far from home on roads they don't know. One of the reasons I do more sport touring type rides these days than local rides. I used to do the old barf sat ride pretty often. Seen more wrecks than I could count.

I'm not hating on sport riders, I'm one myself. I'm just saying stay honest. Go read the last few completed rides in the group ride section and you will see small crashes in half of the last few rides, and this is winter time, the best time to ride because most of the squids put their bikes away. In spring/summer/fall its a crash fest out there with riders dieing all the time.

How many times have you heard about a rider killing himself doing a wheelie?

How many times have you heard about a rider killing themselves because they were going too fast?

Any honest person knows there is no comparison. Speeders win the death race hands down.

But go ahead and paint things anyway you want if it makes you feel better. :thumbup
 
how is it that there were no LEOs in this video?
I drive on the bridge and I always see a CHP. Always.
 
But still, ride isn't over until everyone makes it home in one piece.


Bullshit. :|

the ride begins at the designated meet location, not when each person pulls out of their driveway........and ends when the ride is over, at the designated "end of the ride" spot, then people go their own way home, usually alone, by themselves, WITHOUT a group.

hence the term "Group ride".

Cheyenne did not crash on my group ride.
 
I ride with all kinds of groups in many states. In Florida I could ride in dozens of these large group stunter rides (like the one in this video), before seeing a single wreck.

That was Florida. :ape

This is California. :mstingray
 
Bullshit. :|

the ride begins at the designated meet location, not when each person pulls out of their driveway........and ends when the ride is over, at the designated "end of the ride" spot, then people go there own way home, usually alone, by themselves, WITHOUT a group.

hence the term "Group ride".

Cheyenne did not crash on my group ride.

I agree.

Thats BS Frank. The "Group Ride" was safe and no BS riding was done. No one crashed, nothing illegal was done. (Oh yeah, the catch phrase 'no pic or it didn't happen' happen applies) For this example, we have video and pics to prove you had it here.

It was safe, we had some new riders and everyone had a fun and safe ride. If the one guy happened to dump his bike on his own time, the same day.... that is not a reflection on BARF of those of us you ride/host safe fun rides.

I'm sure the one rider in question would agree too.

Just keeping it honest and factual.
 
while lots of barf group rides are/used to be crash fests, the difference they are trying to point out is that these dudes were swarming the freeway and showing off.

Personally I could give a fuck either way cause I am not a bridge commuter.
 
Bullshit. :|

the ride begins at the designated meet location, not when each person pulls out of their driveway........and ends when the ride is over, at the designated "end of the ride" spot, then people go there own way home, usually alone, by themselves, WITHOUT a group.

hence the term "Group ride".

Cheyenne did not crash on my group ride.

You are splitting hairs. The only reason I posted that up was because flyin hun used it as a example of a good ride with no sport bike wrecks.

In this context of sport bikers, vs stunters, it counts because a sport rider crashed on the way home from a ride. No ones ride is done until they make it home in one piece.

So technically, you can say he didn't crash 'while' riding in the group. He crashed on his way home from the group ride. But a crash is still a crash.


I'm not hating on you, your rides, or barf group rides. Crashes happen on everyone's 'spirited' group rides in the hills. I've crashed on group rides my self. That's just the way it is. For every group ride crash that gets posted about, 2 or 3 never get mentioned. I'm giving SBR the same shit over hypocrite bashing in the video thread there. Pot to kettle.


So OK...

I just did another search on flying_hun in the group rides section. Looks like the ride he was on before that one, was another one of your rides on 12/27.
Another ride, another dropped bike:

http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=319779&page=2

I took a shortcut....which tired my bike out so it decided to lay down for a sec before getting back on the road.:p

was a bit slippery, good thing the bars twist back so easily.


In his two last rides, two dropped bikes. (one on way home) Correct me if I'm wrong, but looks like I'm seeing a trend here that doesn't look good for sport riders.





DAMN STUNTERS!!!! WHY CAN"T THEY STOP CRASHING AND GIVING US ALL A BAD NAME!!!! :rant



:rofl


Don't get mad now, just because I'm telling it the way it is. :p
 
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That was Florida. :ape

This is California. :mstingray

When I go for a ride in California, I'm not worried one tiny bit about some stunter taking me out on a wheelie. I worry about some squid ricky racer blowing the double yellow hitting me head on. I've had close calls a few times.
 
When I go for a ride in California, I'm not worried one tiny bit about some stunter taking me out on a wheelie. I worry about some squid ricky racer blowing the double yellow hitting me head on. I've had close calls a few times.

Or a cager. I'm more worried about moron cagers then I am Ricky Racers and Stunters combined.
 
In his two last rides, two dropped bikes. (one on way home) Correct me if I'm wrong, but looks like I'm seeing a trend here that doesn't look good for sport riders.





DAMN STUNTERS!!!! WHY CAN"T THEY STOP CRASHING AND GIVING US ALL A BAD NAME!!!! :rant



:rofl


Don't get mad now, just because I'm telling it the way it is. :p

Two wrongs don't make a right.

yes, stunters AND twistie riders crash and can be a hazard to themselves and others, yep, doesn't make either one less of a selfish & careless rider.

I never said that twistie riding is ok and stunting is not. I don't see anyone here that said that.

I actually dropped my motard in the dirt going less than 2 miles an hour on my last two rides. I do not count dirt the same as street and'or stunting. I was NOT endangering ANYONE but myself, and at that speed, I wasn't in much harms way.:)
 
A ride posted on a public forum inviting anyone with a swinging dick to show up and ride cannot guarantee being a safe ride. You have no control over who shows up or what they will do.

I got tired of BARF rides having my day fucked up by turning a 3 or 4 hr ride into an 8 hr because we were waiting on an ambulance or a pickup truck or whatever.

No particular group provides a magic pill to control people’s behavior.

Killing or fucking up someone’s day on the back road is no better than some stunt squids fucking up everyone’s day on the Bay Bridge.

People regularly crash on group rides.
 
A ride posted on a public forum inviting anyone with a swinging dick to show up and ride cannot guarantee being a safe ride. You have no control over who shows up or what they will do.

I got tired of BARF rides having my day fucked up by turning a 3 or 4 hr ride into an 8 hr because we were waiting on an ambulance or a pickup truck or whatever.

No particular group provides a magic pill to control people’s behavior.

Killing or fucking up someone’s day on the back road is no better than some stunt squids fucking up everyone’s day on the Bay Bridge.

People regularly crash on group rides.

book worthy!..
 
So did he hit the freakin' Camry or what?!

From both the video and the picture from the front it looks like he went straight into that silver Camry. Where did Rey Josue even take pics from, in the video I don't see another car right ahead.

Also, I thought the stunnas had handlebars not clipons. Was his bike not prepped properly to Yut-Ughh?

way ahead of the pack with a long lens...
 
while lots of barf group rides are/used to be crash fests, the difference they are trying to point out is that these dudes were swarming the freeway and showing off.

newsflash to the stunnas: people arent staring at you cause they think you're cool, they're just pissed at you for acting like dickwads holding up everyone and wasting their time.
 
Big difference between a major bridge that thousands of people cross every day, and a back road that only the locals use.

You want to be a cop and you think there are varying degrees of right and wrong? And funny, you think the thing that you like to do is pretty much OK since it only inconveniences a "few locals".

:rolleyes

I don't know shit about that ride, and only watched a little of the video, but it looked to be at off peak time on the bridge (I didn't see much in the way of cars). In any case, a big group going through the Bay Bridge once a year (?) probably bothers less people than the constant hill riding.

LOTS of Pot and Kettle in this thread.
 
You want to be a cop and you think there are varying degrees of right and wrong? And funny, you think the thing that you like to do is pretty much OK since it only inconveniences a "few locals".

:rolleyes

I don't know shit about that ride, and only watched a little of the video, but it looked to be at off peak time on the bridge (I didn't see much in the way of cars). In any case, a big group going through the Bay Bridge once a year (?) probably bothers less people than the constant hill riding.

LOTS of Pot and Kettle in this thread.

It was in the off hours. There were about 300 riders. Not all stunters. Probably only 20 stunters. So out off 300 people, approx 4 hours of riding, only one rider down. Pretty good statistics. The rider who went down was the best. Equipment failure. Not saying public stunting is ok. Alot of calling the kettle black. But seeing whom it is coming from I'm not surprised.
 
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