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Marchesini Wheels: What I noticed
- Thread starter Feanor
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On the internet, assume everyone is stupid.
If you keep your expectations rock bottom low, you'll occasionally get pleasantly surprised instead of disappointed.
I rode my 2006 GXSR1000 from the Bay Area to Vegas and back...bike was stock and it felt fine.
Of course that was almost 4 years ago, and now that I'm a little older and less flexible, I'd opt for some Helibars.
I will admit the last 150 miles was uncomfortable, pretty much alternated ass cheeks on the saddle to straighten a leg more than thirty degrees. I passed older and less flexible a while back. At 6'4" leaning forward and weighting the bars some isn't hard and takes some pressure off the old spine fracture and the severely arthritic hips. I wasn't stiff at all the next day.
louemc
New member
If you insist on not fixing that situation, then of course it won't happen.
But...getting your upper body out of the race crouch, takes the stress out of the bends in the lower body (they are connected).
And it isn't just that..Sport Rider mag did a ride report on the R1 they street fighterized, and...they were amazed at the improved handling in the canyon they were giving the bike a work out in.....
But...Don't believe them either
If you insist on not fixing that situation, then of course it won't happen.
But...getting your upper body out of the race crouch, takes the stress out of the bends in the lower body (they are connected).
And it isn't just that..Sport Rider mag did a ride report on the R1 they street fighterized, and...they were amazed at the improved handling in the canyon they were giving the bike a work out in.....
But...Don't believe them either
I'm long, I'm tall, the "racing crouch" is not uncomfortable for me. I have upright bikes, they hurt my hips to put miles on. I put my elbows on my knees, it fucking works. I wish I could crouch more in fact. I liked my F4I because I could lay down on the tankbag for miles and miles. I learned to push the bars forward, not down, the clip ons are fine. The bars are only part of the problem with touring a sportbike, the stiff suspension, thin seat, small screen, short wheelbase and cramped legroom are issues too. Fix all that and you're on a Concourse. Which I might buy someday when I don't WANT to ride the race replica I LOVE anymore. And, my New Year's Resolution was to STFU on BARF unless someone ASKS my opinion about what they choose to ride. Especially someone that rides a literbike and has to fuck up the suspension and bars to make it ride like the different bike he should have bought anyway. Your opinion on BARF is just as good or bad as anyone else's, but the dozen repetitions a day has you flitting about my otherwise vacant ignore list. Drone on, ignore the gentle feedback you're getting from other members, whatever, Dude. My opinion only, but I would be embarrased to perseverate like that in front of the world.
mweitz
New member
Can I get the readers digest on what he did? I missed the whole thing while in my last coma
louemc
New member
I'm long, I'm tall, the "racing crouch" is not uncomfortable for me. I have upright bikes, they hurt my hips to put miles on. I put my elbows on my knees, it fucking works. I wish I could crouch more in fact. I liked my F4I because I could lay down on the tankbag for miles and miles. I learned to push the bars forward, not down, the clip ons are fine. The bars are only part of the problem with touring a sportbike, the stiff suspension, thin seat, small screen, short wheelbase and cramped legroom are issues too. Fix all that and you're on a Concourse. Which I might buy someday when I don't WANT to ride the race replica I LOVE anymore. And, my New Year's Resolution was to STFU on BARF unless someone ASKS my opinion about what they choose to ride. Especially someone that rides a literbike and has to fuck up the suspension and bars to make it ride like the different bike he should have bought anyway. Your opinion on BARF is just as good or bad as anyone else's, but the dozen repetitions a day has you flitting about my otherwise vacant ignore list. Drone on, ignore the gentle feedback you're getting from other members, whatever, Dude. My opinion only, but I would be embarrased to perseverate like that in front of the world.
I'm hoping that everyone that can't tell the difference between a Concourse and a liter Race replica (other than how you define them), or thinks that RaceTech "fucks up" suspension, would put me on their ignore list
I'm hoping that everyone that can't tell the difference between a Concourse and a liter Race replica (other than how you define them), or thinks that RaceTech "fucks up" suspension, would put me on their ignore list
Once again you throw the derisive "You don't know anything about bikes" card when someone doesn't want what you're selling. I LULZ'ed when you played it on Alex Florea and Conan, you really have no clue do you?
Keep dropping the RaceTech name if you will, but go read the SuperDuke threads in Racer's Corner and then tell us how easy it is to drop/shim/spring and otherwise fuck around with a suspension and get a perfect ride. Better yet, post your knowledgeable thoughts there
Yes, mention the magazine article for the 28th time too. Find it curious that every Ninja review doesn't end with "this bike needs wider handlebars"?
Actually I don't care what you put on your bike, or if you sport a raccoon tail on your radio antenna or listen to Fred Waring. I don't even care what you think my bike needs, if I did I would ask. I actually was interested the first time I read about the handlebars.
My problems are;
1) You post the handlebar thing like five times a day.
2) Anytime someone questions your statements you accuse them of ignorance. You must be the smartest guy on BARF! We know both of your thoughts on bikes very well, please share some more.
3) Waiting to see some proof that you are the Ebbett's-shredding, dirt racing, Eskimo Ninja you claim to be.
A "starter ZX-10"?
Well, I guess that could be, but when I'm getting on the freeway, hard on the throttle and the front wheel is skittering and floating off the pavement just from the acceleration, it feels like a "starter" in the same way as a .357 magnum is a .44 "trainer" All in jest... I've never ridden a first gen ZX-10R so I have no idea what they feel like, but I really miss my 636. (would that be like a .22?
) That bike sounded like music to me and felt so light...
GAJ
Well-known member
Once again you throw the derisive "You don't know anything about bikes" card when someone doesn't want what you're selling. I LULZ'ed when you played it on Alex Florea and Conan, you really have no clue do you?
Keep dropping the RaceTech name if you will, but go read the SuperDuke threads in Racer's Corner and then tell us how easy it is to drop/shim/spring and otherwise fuck around with a suspension and get a perfect ride. Better yet, post your knowledgeable thoughts there
Yes, mention the magazine article for the 28th time too. Find it curious that every Ninja review doesn't end with "this bike needs wider handlebars"?
Actually I don't care what you put on your bike, or if you sport a raccoon tail on your radio antenna or listen to Fred Waring. I don't even care what you think my bike needs, if I did I would ask. I actually was interested the first time I read about the handlebars.
My problems are;
1) You post the handlebar thing like five times a day.
2) Anytime someone questions your statements you accuse them of ignorance. You must be the smartest guy on BARF! We know both of your thoughts on bikes very well, please share some more.
3) Waiting to see some proof that you are the Ebbett's-shredding, dirt racing, Eskimo Ninja you claim to be.
"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."
Here's a video of Lou in younger days:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE
joespeedfast
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"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."
Here's a video of Lou in younger days:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE
@ Lou and Paul. Get a room guys, you're stealing poor Feanors thunder.
louemc
New member
I've been supportive of Feanor from the start, and...seemed like the only one (or there could of been a couple more) that was supportive of Feanor since his return to this site.
I'm not stealing any Feanor thunder. But...I know I'm mis-read all the time
racercosmo
Hooligan with a Halligan
Hey David, I have no helpful insight regarding your Marchesinis. One thing I noticed about your bike, $3000 wheels, Ohlins everything, wave rotors, stock brake lines. It's not a criticism, just an observation. Steel lines are usually the first or second mod. Some people do say that they prefer the feel of stock hoses, steel lines make the lever too firm, etc. Oddly, I have never owned a brand new bike, and all of mine have had aftermarket hoses when I bought them.
Hi Rich!
Oh no, no criticism taken!
I have the Galfer GP SS lines sitting on my garage workbench right now I just haven't put them on yet because I am waiting on a Brembo Billet 19x18 Master Cylinder which are backordered.That way, I can put the lines, Brembo Calipers, and Master Cylinder on all at the same time and only deal with the brake fluid once (I'm going with Castrol SRF DOT4)
It's funny that you noticed the lines though, because I look at them all the time in comparison with all the other things on the bike and you're right! It looks odd since SS lines are so cheap in comparison
I'm hoping to get all the pieces/parts for the brakes sometime next week, and maybe it will all be together before the next meet/group ride. I'm still on the fence about the Brembo rear caliper. It would be nice to keep everything consistent and I really like the brembo rear caliper relocater that puts the caliper on the bottom of the swing arm. Removing the rear wheels is MUCH easier that way!
It was GREAT meeting you and Dannielle in person FINALLY!
I hope you're having a good one!
David
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Stormdragon
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It's funny that you noticed the lines though, because I look at them all the time in comparison with all the other things on the bike and you're right! It looks odd since SS lines are so cheap in comparison
In the meantime, you can always get some braided steel sheathing, and slide it over the stock lines. *$'s cred baby!
racercosmo
Hooligan with a Halligan
I hate dealing with brake fluid!Hi Rich!
Oh no, no criticism taken!
That way, I can put the lines, Brembo Calipers, and Master Cylinder on all at the same time and only deal with the brake fluid once (I'm going with Castrol SRF DOT4)
It's funny that you noticed the lines though, because I look at them all the time in comparison with all the other things on the bike and you're right! It looks odd since SS lines are so cheap in comparison
I'm hoping to get all the pieces/parts for the brakes sometime next week, and maybe it will all be together before the next meet/group ride. I'm still on the fence about the Brembo rear caliper. It would be nice to keep everything consistent and I really like the brembo rear caliper relocater that puts the caliper on the bottom of the swing arm. Removing the rear wheels is MUCH easier that way!
It was GREAT meeting you and Dannielle in person FINALLY!
I hope you're having a good one!
David
SRF? Pretty pricey. Great product though. We used it in the Corvettes we raced. Were you talked into that, or research it on your own? If you're not doing a completely new rear system like the front, flush it very well. Completely drain the old stuff out of the master cylinder and caliper.
The front is easy, as it's a dry build with all new parts.
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I hate doing brake fluid too!
No matter how careful I am, some of it goes where I don't want it to!I used SRF in my old bike. A friend recommended it to me a long while back as the best brake fluid (highest boiling point) you could get.
I don't think that my brakes will ever get that hot, but I figured that the higher the boiling point, the more leeway, just in case.
If I remember correctly it was something like $80 a bottle and I can't remember how large the bottle was. I think one liter?
I was toying with the idea of using the Silicone based brake fluids, but I'm assuming that the nastiest most inconvenient, caustic paint eating type is probably the best performing
louemc
New member
A "starter ZX-10"?
All in jest... I've never ridden a first gen ZX-10R so I have no idea what they feel like, but I really miss my 636. (would that be like a .22?
Of course it feels that way getting on the freeway (or anywhere you can get on the gas hard) It's a ZX10.
Just try to keep in mind...every version has been an attempt to calm the ZX-10 to be more manageable. That was so it could fare better in track competition.
The first gen ZX-10 made the testers at MCN cry like little school girls "it's a beast"
What you talk about is probably why the further refinements to the design appeal to me I think
No one can argue that the ZX-10s have brutish motors, I think even the competition concedes every year in comparos that the Kawasaki is always expected to have the monster motor, and the rest is sort of up for grabs.
I would think that a bike's chassis and suspension is something that meshes differently from one rider to the next and one technique to the rest. If the bike is a handful, but powerful and capable in the hands of a deft rider, than that is an impressive combination, but refined, controllable power is a deadly weapon too, especially if you have much in reserve.
I don't have any doubts that first gen ZX-10r's were frightening beasts to even expert riders, But you mention changes to the ZX-10 design to make it more effective in racing as if that was a bad thing? Or did I misinterpret?
I thought that design modifications to make a bike more lethal as a track weapon was supposed to be the road to success for a sportbike, not a liability
Anyhow... I think I would have fun on both bikes, and I would just be more careful on the first gen
Slowest_One
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when I inquired about pricing for Marchesinis for my 1000RR, I was told that the OEMs where already at least a pound and a half lighter than those sexy forged aluminums. he said that "If i don't mind dropping almost 2K for Starbux bling and nothing else", he's not gonna stop me.
I'm not sure how the OEM Honda wheels compare to the Forged Aluminum Marchesini's, but I didn't want to take anyone's word for it so I actually weighed them myself... On a pretty crappy drop scale, but the Marchesini's were definitely significantly lighter than the ZX-10R OEM wheels, even taking into account GROSS scale error they are a 1lb lighter for each wheel.
I need to get an accurate electronic scale reading, but I have nothing that goes up that high. Just reloading scales.
Now IF it really is only 1lb per wheel, is that worth thousands of dollars? Of course it is! To me
Anyone could argue that any LiterBike on the street was a waste of money to begin with anyway. Did anyone buy their Sportbike as practical transportation? Actually, if I was you, I would have told the sales rep you were talking to that he was a pretty inept salesperson
To each his own... Thank God