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GSX-R600 & Monster 696 - Who's ridden both?

In my opinion there's an easy way to select between bikes. You need to ask yourself some questions (internally)

1) Did you frequently rev the piss out of your old GXSR? (either for the sound or for the power) (Yes/No)
2) Do you ride agressively in the hills (Yes/No)
3) Did you routinely exceed 80 mph on your old GSXR? (Yes / No)
4) Did you ever make a suspension adjustment on your old GSXR? (Yes / No)
5) Would you be upset (to the point of not owning a bike because of it) with a higher maintenance bill every 2 years (Yes/No)
6) Are you over 155 lbs? (Yes/No)

If all of the above are NO. Then a monster is a better selection. Monsters are generally springed for 150lbs so If you're slightly less or close to that range your suspension wouldn't need much adjustment from stock settings.

I've owned two monsters and they are amazingly fun bikes,very easy to ride and extremely light and flickable. Though they are down on top end power compared to other bikes of similar displacement, I've found that their linear power delivery above 3k RPM allows me to more effectively use the power I have. I can ride a monster to 70%-80% its potential on the street (and not crash). With a GSXR it would probably be 40-50%.

The question is whether you care if you have that additional power on tap.

The monster has more power and potential for the street than you will ever need. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either just kidding themselves, needs to improve as a rider, or needs to start going to the track before they die.

Personally I use that lack of availability of top end power as a check against my own stupid self (I know deep down I'd end up doing something I shouldn't be).
 
Had the 696dark and while I loved it I was super pissed it lacked a 6th gear. Made hwy travel horrible

I could keep up in the twisties no problem and track wise it was ok at a b pace

Ask machete about his monster (not sure which but I'm pretty sure he loves it)
 
Two totally different bikes. Agree with afm199, the gsx-r600 is much better suited for the track, and you'll find it a pain after a while if used for mostly street riding. I've ridden both and while the gixxer is superfun once you wind it up, the monster is better for everyday use and alot more comfortable.

Huge price difference too. Better (adjustable) components on the gixxer.
 
One of my two track bikes is the GSXR. I love it. My back hurts after riding it two hours on the track. Never would ride one on the street.
 
I'm thinking about switching over from my GSXR-750 to a Monster 796 (or 1100 EVO). I love the performance of the GSXR, but:

1. I just mostly commute
2. Rarely get near redline
3. Want something with upright posture so I can enjoy the scenery on the weekends.

Anyways...I cruised to Honda Peninsula to check out the Monsters. I've never been on a naked (last 2 bikes were Ninja 250 and SV650s). Ask the sales person if they allow test rides and he said no.

So if anyone knows of a place where they allow test rides...I'd really want to get a few mins on a Monster before forking down $10+ for one.
 
ACE motorsports has demo bikes and I bet a monster should be available. It's in concord, but super nice staff..... At least the ones I have dealt with
 
ACE motorsports has demo bikes and I bet a monster should be available. It's in concord, but super nice staff..... At least the ones I have dealt with

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Thanks! Missed 'Concord" on the pull down menu on the Ducati site. Will be def be visiting Ace...even though it's about a 40 min drive for me.
 
Haven't ridden either bikes, but did have a guy on a beautiful 696 follow me up Zayante Rd. I think his tank was red with white trim. Such a pretty bike.
 
In my opinion there's an easy way to select between bikes. You need to ask yourself some questions (internally)

1) Did you frequently rev the piss out of your old GXSR? (either for the sound or for the power) (Yes/No)
2) Do you ride agressively in the hills (Yes/No)
3) Did you routinely exceed 80 mph on your old GSXR? (Yes / No)
4) Did you ever make a suspension adjustment on your old GSXR? (Yes / No)
5) Would you be upset (to the point of not owning a bike because of it) with a higher maintenance bill every 2 years (Yes/No)
6) Are you over 155 lbs? (Yes/No)

If all of the above are NO. Then a monster is a better selection. Monsters are generally springed for 150lbs so If you're slightly less or close to that range your suspension wouldn't need much adjustment from stock settings.

I've owned two monsters and they are amazingly fun bikes,very easy to ride and extremely light and flickable. Though they are down on top end power compared to other bikes of similar displacement, I've found that their linear power delivery above 3k RPM allows me to more effectively use the power I have. I can ride a monster to 70%-80% its potential on the street (and not crash). With a GSXR it would probably be 40-50%.

The question is whether you care if you have that additional power on tap.

The monster has more power and potential for the street than you will ever need. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either just kidding themselves, needs to improve as a rider, or needs to start going to the track before they die.

Personally I use that lack of availability of top end power as a check against my own stupid self (I know deep down I'd end up doing something I shouldn't be).


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By far the best reply that really got me thinking, thanks! I weigh 130lbs and I don't think I've ever used more than 50% of my GSXR's potential. I only answered yes to #3.

Thank you everyone else too for your advices. After some serious thinking, I realized I do more everyday commuting than curves. I did a lot of weekend/curves in Cali, but in AZ there just aren't enough sharp curves to really enjoy my GSXR. The main thing holding me back were that AZ has a lot of open roads so I wanted the fairings' stability, GSXR's liquid-cooled feature, and the speed. But from looking at my riding style and everyday usage, I've decided I'm going to cross over and try the Monster.

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People... the OP wants to know if it's cool to move from a gsxr to a monster. Yes... it's cool.

You'll feel a motor difference but it won't be that bad...you may even like it.
You'll feel a suspension difference but it won't be that bad... you may even like it.
You'll feel a seating ergonommics difference... you'll like it.
You won't get bored... funny to think that you would/could actually.

But Hornet's got it right... get the one that YOU like and then custom paint.

(if you haven't had a ducati yet...)

:) You may be the only one who understood that part of my message. I really had to ask myself, do I use a sportbike to its fullest potential when I don't even go to the track? Or did I just like the look of them? And really, am I ready to step up from having a bike that looks like everyone else's on the road? I think I may learn to like the motor/suspension differences. Ergonomics has never been a big issue for me, at 5'5", I'm rarely uncomfortable on crotchrockets. Bored on a bike? Nah never. I could ride a pocket bike around the block and be happy. I may not get the looks and compliments on a naked bike as I did on a rocket, but the more I stare at Monsters, the more I find them attractive.

I've never liked ANY custom paint jobs. It's a personal thing, I don't like the way they look no matter what the scheme is. But the Ducati Monster Art Kits, they got me hooked from the get go. :teeth
 
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Glad I could be of help.

I assume you will give the 696 a test ride at some point. If you end up going to a dealership for the test ride, I highly recommend one other thing.

Try out the 796.

I've noticed that the air cooled monster lineup has a beautiful sweetspot at 800cc. I dont know if its the stroked out motor or what but the power output and delivery is just in that goldilocks zone.

Aesthetically, you cant beat the single sided swingarm for looks and convenience.

Though one of the best new monster's i've seen (similar tank design that you preferred) was an 1100, the 796 is identical in looks and fitment.

monster_1100_scarico_laterale_796_laterale_singolo_sc_project.jpg
 
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Don't know if you've pulled the trigger already, duckphreak, but I just found this thread now.

My background is mostly sportbike 600s and I bought a Monster 1100 (09) because:

1.) I wanted a better commuter
2.) I was tired of the hunched over, racer boy position

It took me a little while to get use to the lower horsepower, but the increase in torque makes up for it, in a different way. The 696 would be a LOT slower than a Gixxer 600. Even the 796 would seem slow. The Monster 1100 is your best option.

You mentioned you are in AZ. Be aware, if you get an older non-EVO Monster, the underseat pipes can throw quite a bit of heat on your thighs.

As mentioned, a test ride is your best bet. And EastBay Ace is great for Duc demo rides.

For sure, it's a different kind of ride...different kind of flow. I'm a far bit older than you, so are you sure you've got yer speed ya-yas out at the age of 30? Not that the Duc is slow, but it definitely doesn't have the top end of a 600.

Good luck, have fun.
 
... I may not get the looks and compliments on a naked bike as I did on a rocket...

I can almost guarantee this will not be a problem.

waitaminute... did someone already ask you the most important barf question?

Seeing a babe hop off a monster is boner town... seeing the same babe hop off a 6 is intimidating because she can probably ride faster than me ... :laughing ... :| ... :(
 
Picking a bike for color scheme? Jesus.
 
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