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I don't want my son riding motorcycles

Dr. Evil said:
Did you read it or did you just see the "F" word and go "eeeewwww?"
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yeah I read it and I hear where your coming from but you sound like your blood pressure has shot through the roof.

If you feel that this is most hypocritical, ungrateful pile of shit you've seen posted in months. Then STFU and move on to the next thread

My son wasnt asking me for permission. He was asking me to teach him. If my son really wants to ride I wont stop him and I will gladly teach him. But if he only wants to ride just because I do, then I would gladly quit riding and sell all my bikes without no regrets
 
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I don't own my children. I contributed 1/2 their DNA is all. Copyrighting DNA is a travesty, another thread there. All I can really do is decide what to subsidize, support and participate in. They do need to know I love them, whatever they decide.
 
Dirt is more dangerous than Street in my opinion and street is more dangerous than track. My son raced dirt and even won a MX Championship at 5. Then last year he decided he wanted to road race after watching Anthon Alonzo. So at 6 we went road racing. The biggest thing is stressing safety and promoting the right gear. I know he's only 7 right now but he is very consious about the proper riding gear and the focus it takes to be a rider. To the point that when he's getting tired he takes himself off the bike. All you can do is support him and stress to him your concerns. Wouldn't you rather guide him through this process than have him do it on his own and possibly get hurt because you weren't there and he does something unreasonable/noobish. This is not to say that your concerns aren't warrented, this is a dangerous sport. Then again what sport isn't. Well I guess there's bad-mitten. In the end it is his decission, just help him make good one's and be there for him. That's all we can do as parrents.Here's hoping that if he rides, the two of you enjoy it together and you both come home safe after every ride. Oh and again my opinion, but track only. :ride Good luck
 

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I was in a similar boat. My folks where against me riding from the day I was born. My Pops rode for many many years, stopped riding about the time I was born.

When I was 19 I came home with a bike (SV650S,took the MSF, bought used gear from many Barfers) Mom then kicked me out of the house for 2 weeks. Apparently she didnt talk to anyone for the first three days and could be heard crying at night. No one in our family has died in a moto crash. She just didnt want to me ride.

Now I ride everyday. My Mom got over it, it helped that I was proactive about protective gear and training. She still hates the fact that I ride. But what can she do?

Wouldnt you much rather give your son a helping hand in learning how to ride? Teach him the ropes and then set him free. One day soon I hope to take an extended road trip with my father, get him back on a bike.
 
2slow said:
My son wasnt asking me for permission. He was asking me to teach him. If my son really wants to ride I wont stop him and I will gladly teach him. But if he only wants to ride just because I do, then I would gladly quit riding and sell all my bikes without no regrets
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Doesn't that already imply that he really wants to ride, simply by asking you to teach him?

Whether he wants to ride because you ride, or because he really wants to ride, the fact remains is that he wants to ride. And as you said earlier that you are his "father and best friend", so why deprive you and your son another awesome activity to do together?

I seldom play golf, and when I do it's mostly with my dad because he loves to play golf. I don't particularly love playing golf, but since my dad does, I do it for some awesome bonding time with him. Of course, golf isn't as dangerous as riding (but have you ever been hit with a golf ball), but my point is, I do it for my dad.
 
Hoho said:
Doesn't that already imply that he really wants to ride, simply by asking you to teach him?

I seldom play golf, and when I do it's mostly with my dad because he loves to play golf. I don't particularly love playing golf, but since my dad does, I do it for some awesome bonding time with him. Of course, golf isn't as dangerous as riding (but have you ever been hit with a golf ball), but my point is, I do it for my dad.
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^^ I think you answered your own question already.
I dont want my son riding just because I enjoy riding, just so that we can have some awesome bonding time. All tho it would be great but I dont want that. I want him to ride because he wants to ride.

After he broke up with his girlfriend he's been wanting to hang out more lately. I would like to think that we are best friends we go clubbing, bars, hang out at the viet coffee shop lol and lately he been bugging me go fishing.

So my first move is to talk to him and see how he really feels about riding then I'll go from there. And as for me I do enjoy riding but I can do without it. I can find other fun activities to do like JET SKIES!..lol
 
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2slow said:
When my son was about 14 I took him for a ride on my motorcycle. He said he didnt like it because it scared him and ever since then he never showed intrest until now 8 years later.

Alot of you parents started your kids young which is great I think. If my son would of showed intrest when he was young I would of bought him a dirtbike and I would of had an exuse to buy myself one too. And I wouldnt worry so much now if he did started out young.
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What kind of ride did you take him on?

Did you drive around the neighborhood then stop at the ice cream store afterwards? Or . . .

Did you take him on a ride to Mines Rd then show him how Dad carves the twisties, scaring him to death thinking you were going to crash?

I'll never forget for the rest of my life the time my Father took me to the park when I was 7-8 years old. He was pushing me on the big swing set, the one with the black rubber seat and the big chains that are 15-20 feet long. He started pushing me harder and harder, and I kept going higher and higher. I got so high that I got scared and told him I wanted to get off. He just laughed and pushed harder. I was so high I thought the seat was going to wrap over the top. I was screaming and crying while holding on with all the strength I had because I thought I was going die. It was the most terrifying think I have ever done. When I finally got off that swing, I would have beaten him to death if I was able too. I've been afraid of heights ever since. And the only thing I think about when I think of him is that he's the fucker who tried to kill me on that swing.

I would never do anything like that to another person, so it pisses me off when I see anybody tortures someone in doing something they don't want to do.
 
Sane_Man said:
What kind of ride did you take him on?

Did you drive around the neighborhood then stop at the ice cream store afterwards? Or . . .

Did you take him on a ride to Mines Rd then show him how Dad carves the twisties, scaring him to death thinking you were going to crash?

I'll never forget for the rest of my life the time my Father took me to the park when I was 7-8 years old. He was pushing me on the big swing set, the one with the black rubber seat and the big chains that are 15-20 feet long. He started pushing me harder and harder, and I kept going higher and higher. I got so high that I got scared and told him I wanted to get off. He just laughed and pushed harder. I was so high I thought the seat was going to wrap over the top. I was screaming and crying while holding on with all the strength I had because I thought I was going die. It was the most terrifying think I have ever done. When I finally got off that swing, I would have beaten him to death if I was able too. I've been afraid of heights ever since. And the only thing I think about when I think of him is that he's the fucker who tried to kill me on that swing.

I would never do anything like that to another person, so it pisses me off when I see anybody tortures someone in doing something they don't want to do.
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Given his concern over his son riding a motorcycle, I doubt that he'd ever have treated him the way your dad treated you.

The behavior shown in your story is seriously abusive. There's something really sick about any individual who would intentionally scare their own child and laugh about it while they were crying and begging him to stop.
 
2slow said:
^^ I think you answered your own question already.
I dont want my son riding just because I enjoy riding, just so that we can have some awesome bonding time. All tho it would be great but I dont want that. I want him to ride because he wants to ride.
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LOL, yes, but it is my decision to play, the same way it is his decision to ride, isn't it? And your support would mean that he would go about it the right way, with the proper training.

2slow said:
After he broke up with his girlfriend he's been wanting to hang out more lately. I would like to think that we are best friends we go clubbing, bars, hang out at the viet coffee shop lol and lately he been bugging me go fishing.

So my first move is to talk to him and see how he really feels about riding then I'll go from there. And as for me I do enjoy riding but I can do without it. I can find other fun activities to do like JET SKIES!..lol
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Sounds like you have a great relationship with your son! :thumbup And I can see why he would also want to ride. Do talk to him, but I think it would be great if the two of you could ride together. I'd love it if I could ride with my dad, but he doesn't like riding at all, so I play golf. :teeth

:ride
 
ScottRNelson said:
Both of my sons started riding dirt bikes at age 13. By the time they were old enough to get a driver's license they had very good motorcycle control. Both of them had motorcycles in high school and there were no issues. Neither started street riding on a 600cc supersport, though.

They've both managed to make it beyond a decade without any motorcycle accidents.

It can be done if you start out with the right kind of riding first.
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:Port


Training, chats about how it should be done... And links to those rip threads.

And much more..saying no is not the way... Saying yes and doing it the right way....is the best.
 
just forbid him like my parents did to me :laughing

I respected their wishes for a really long time. but in the end, I have always wanted to ride, even though no one in my immediate or extended family rides.

I haven't told my parents that I own and ride a moto yet. of course I'm a grown woman, 35+, so it's my business. heck they were freaked out when I bought a convertible.
 
Sane_Man said:
What kind of ride did you take him on?

Did you drive around the neighborhood then stop at the ice cream store afterwards? Or . . .

Did you take him on a ride to Mines Rd then show him how Dad carves the twisties, scaring him to death thinking you were going to crash?

I would never do anything like that to another person, so it pisses me off when I see anybody tortures someone in doing something they don't want to do.
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Im not sure where I took him but I do know it wasnt the twisties or on the highway. Maybe the fast acceleration is what scared him or the lean, I dont know. I never took him for a ride after that day and he never asked.
 
sprorchid said:
just forbid him like my parents did to me :laughing

I respected their wishes for a really long time. but in the end, I have always wanted to ride, even though no one in my immediate or extended family rides.

I haven't told my parents that I own and ride a moto yet. of course I'm a grown woman, 35+, so it's my business. heck they were freaked out when I bought a convertible.
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You must be asian..:laughing
 
I can completely understand a father's concern about a son/daughter riding on the street but...

..painful as it may be, there comes a time when they will do what they want to do.

I have a step daughter that broke her back a few years back. She now has pieces of metal replacing parts of and supporting her spine. Guess what? She constantly talks about how much she wants a motorcycle. Not only this but she is an avid snow boarder, long boarder and is so enraptured by motorcycles that I too am fearful for her survival.

Can I stop her? I doubt it. My parents couldn't stop me. My family can't stop me from riding now. It would have been folly to try to stop me from strapping a 1000 lbs formula car to my back when I did that. (I still would have gotten into the car even if I knew it was a one-way trip.)

So, I know from my own experience, there is sometimes nothing to be done to "stop" someone from doing something.

What you can do, is provide the absolutle BEST tools for the task to increase the chances of survival. Training, gear and vehicle. Don't cut corners. Then you will have done the best you can do and still not tried to stiffle the life force of another person.
 
If you lived in most other states with rural roads that were not mountainous, the risk would be so much lower.

Things are different here.

I think that kids in their 20's have more testosterone than road wisdom. Combine that with the highly challenging roads and traffic situations of CA plus really fast bikes (hey are all pretty fast these days) and the risk is super high.


Start him out with a dirt bike and then after he is good with the mechanical skills get him to a MSF 1 and 2 to begin the road wisdom and defensive riding skill base. Then ride with him on the street in low risk environments and move up from there.

When my kid was about 10, I said "I will buy you dirt bikes as you grow older if you don't ride street until you are 22." (That seemed like so far in the future. LOL) Now he really isn't interested in riding on the street (or dirt). I know that when I look back on when I was 19-22 (and beyond), I can't believe I lived through that period. Road smarts and experience are a real mental study in defensive riding that takes years of experience to get to a decent level.

Good luck!

BTY the OP is not hypocritical. His road skills, bike skills and maturity are far beyond a 22 year old. That is a huge difference.
 
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