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Ca State Senator Joe Simitian to gut the OHV fund

kelsodeez said:
why isnt the AMA doing anything about this?

i dont dirtbike, but i still think there should be areas for individuals to do so.
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The AMA sent an email Action Alert describing the issue and provided instructions on who to call and what to say. Same message as the 4wd clubs so I don't know who wrote it.

If you haven't signed up for the Action Alerts from the AMA, please do.
 
This is basically the same thing going on everywhere in the budget, they take away from Group A to fill a budget gap, Group A (state parks in this example) gets mad about it so they find a smaller Group B (OHV Areas) to refill Group A, rinse and repeat with differend Group A, B & C etc... as necessary so they get paid (no budget no pay remember)
 
Dmitriy said:
This is basically the same thing going on everywhere in the budget, they take away from Group A to fill a budget gap, Group A (state parks in this example) gets mad about it so they find a smaller Group B (OHV Areas) to refill Group A, rinse and repeat with differend Group A, B & C etc... as necessary so they get paid (no budget no pay remember)
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Dmitriy- you are right about this, except one fact. The OHV fund has been used as a slush fund to fix the general budget for over a decade, and not once has any of the $$ that you and I pay in to register OFF highway vehicles been repaid to maintain the parks WE use!

...then the state wonders why there is a population shift OUT of CA to NV, and other states that don't even register off-highway vehicles!
 
kelsodeez said:
why isnt the AMA doing anything about this?
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Pickett/Haris (AMA) and Granat (CORVA) testified at hearing. Ditto Terry McHale of Aaron Read and Assoc...

I have also contacted BRC...

But ultimately, it is up to us, as politicians listen to money (reelection) and large voting blocks (reelection).
 
I dont want to sound like a half empty type of guy ,but I have been riding and racing dirt bikes for 40 years.But when is the last time something good happened in california for the OHV users? I started riding at Carnegie when it was privately owned and I am a volenteer there know.I hear the same story for the last 10 years or more about the new property at carnegie.I dont think it will ever open.That can be said about other ohv parks as well.So ,what good things have happened?
 
gasgas300 said:
I dont want to sound like a half empty type of guy ,but I have been riding and racing dirt bikes for 40 years.But when is the last time something good happened in california for the OHV users? So ,what good things have happened?
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"the Renz" property at Hollister opened about a year ago with some 20 miles of singletrack. It is pretty sweet. it is a "good thing"...
 
That is good Butch. Can you access that property from the lower ranch or only the upper.I raced the national hare scramble there when it crossed the street on to the new property.
 
I just looked at the hollister web site to see the property, and the property I was thalking about is across the street.So one good thing and one still not open to ride.And I agree on the 2 stroke dirt bike.
 
Can you elaborate more on who are "they" that will hold a meeting? Is this a sub committee, or general assembly? Is there a specific bill that is being proposed?
 
Regretfully, I am not eloquent enough to articulate that what they are proposing is illegal for Joe Blow. IRS auditors would climb all over their butts.
:mad
 
Happy Hornet said:
Regretfully, I am not eloquent enough to articulate that what they are proposing is illegal for Joe Blow. IRS auditors would climb all over their butts.
:mad
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If this is illegal...law suit? Letter from a lawyer threatening a suit if our money is used illegally? Is this class-actionable?
 
kingmoochr said:
If this is illegal...law suit? Letter from a lawyer threatening a suit if our money is used illegally? Is this class-actionable?
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Illegal for you and me, ...
 
The OHV fund is held in trust so it cannot be used for other purposes, like what is happening.

Those who make the rules get to decide what is legal. What is happening at Clear Creek is illegal. To hold our government accountable to legal actions withing the laws the people must sue after all other administrative remedies are exhausted. That takes a long time. The greenies are pretty good at this. The OHV community is not.
 
Don't worry guys when the bombs fly and the greenies die. Everything will workout better than expected.
154808h
 
I'm a "greenie." Proper land stewardship is essential to our continued use of it. This would be easier to swallow (but not by much) is this was a "green" issue.
Instead it's a bad management, bloated bureaucracy issue... the Achilles heel of California.
 
Crash Gordon said:
I'm a "greenie." Proper land stewardship is essential to our continued use of it. This would be easier to swallow (but not by much) is this was a "green" issue.
Instead it's a bad management, bloated bureaucracy issue... the Achilles heel of California.
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Proper stewardship is exactly what we had accomplished WITH the OHV funds. Without the OHV funds, proper stewardship is nothing more than a dream.
 
I emailed Brock today, calling him a liar for saying there was "no intention". His response was that at THAT time, there was no intention.

Sorry, I'm waving the BS flag on that!! These things don't just materialize out of the blue!
 
Butch said:
I am sending this momentarily:

Sir/ madam:

I understand the budget committee is meeting today with the intent of raiding the OHV Trust fund for monies to help balance the budget. As these funds are in trust, and paid for and allocated to OHV, it is both immoral and illegal to take this course of action. In the short and long term, this is a poor financial decision because it would withdraw funding from established state programs. You would be responsible for the laying off of more rangers and the eroding natural habitat.

Please represent me, as it is your position do to so, in opposing this improper re-allocation of funds.
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I am gonna edit to fit an send to da Gov
 
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