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Lane Splitting Legislation introduced in CA

RRrider said:
thats good news. although I prefer fewer laws to more laws, this one seems like it will go the way of a law sooner or later, and in that case, having a rider working on the bill for a moto-friendly senator following on the CHP having just publicly stated a position is probably the best outcome.

It's already the case that the CHP stated position has in essence made lane sharing above 30mph a ticket....
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Agreed - and I know a bunch of riders outside Beall's office are involved. :thumbup

Not sure about the ticket thing. They're just "guidelines" after all, but I'm obviously not a LEO.

Skarthi said:
Where can I get some stickers?
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Honestly, I'm not sure who's still got 'em. I'd cruise into the shops in your area on the CityBike distro map. I sent out close to three thousand stickers with the March issue, but I've also heard that they've gone super fast in most cases.

Also, Pashint.com has a stack and is sending 'em out with orders shipping to CA addresses - so if you need something from Pashnit.com, now's a good time to order. You can also order at the link in my sig.
 
monkeyneck said:
Not sure about the ticket thing. They're just "guidelines" after all, but I'm obviously not a LEO.
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True. However at present it is a judgement call for the LEO writing the ticket, and now CHP has stated precisely what they consider to be good judgement. I'd expect that to correlate in the future to other LEO's "judgement". The good side of this, is 30 and under is now less likely to get ticketed even by moto-unfriendly LEOs.
 
RRrider said:
True. However at present it is a judgement call for the LEO writing the ticket, and now CHP has stated precisely what they consider to be good judgement. I'd expect that to correlate in the future to other LEO's "judgement". The good side of this, is 30 and under is now less likely to get ticketed even by moto-unfriendly LEOs.
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Saw a quote in the SC Sentinel today that is timely to this discussion. Asked if riders can be cited under the new guidelines, CHP Sergeant Mark Pope (statewide coordinated for moto safety programs, quoted in other articles recently) says:

"No. Guidelines are not statutory in nature and represent no change in law or policy. They will, however, foster a better understanding of what may be considered 'safe and prudent.'"
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Of course, as before, if a cop wants to write you up for splitting then can certainly come up with something. Unsafe lane change seems to be the common one used in the rare cases I've heard of riders being ticketed for splitting.
 
Wumpus said:
Why make a GOOD bill? why not just make NO bill and have a good day?
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I was thinking about this the other day. Why not take control of the inevitable? There is going to be a lane sharing bill. That has become obvious. There's no reason that we should not embrace this as an opportunity to get it right, rather than fight it and get a bad law.

Also, if we specifically legalize lane splitting in CA, we will have created a model upon which other states can launch their platform. Oregon and Washington have both had lane sharing legislation in the recent past, and they have both failed.
 
boney said:
I was thinking about this the other day. Why not take control of the inevitable? There is going to be a lane sharing bill. That has become obvious. There's no reason that we should not embrace this as an opportunity to get it right, rather than fight it and get a bad law.

Also, if we specifically legalize lane splitting in CA, we will have created a model upon which other states can launch their platform. Oregon and Washington have both had lane sharing legislation in the recent past, and they have both failed.
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This and this, exactly. :thumbup
 
boney said:
I was thinking about this the other day. Why not take control of the inevitable? There is going to be a lane sharing bill. That has become obvious. There's no reason that we should not embrace this as an opportunity to get it right, rather than fight it and get a bad law.

Also, if we specifically legalize lane splitting in CA, we will have created a model upon which other states can launch their platform. Oregon and Washington have both had lane sharing legislation in the recent past, and they have both failed.
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I'm only on board with this if the VC section reads:

"A two-wheeled motorcycle or motor-driven cycle may ride between two lanes of traffic moving in the same direction."

But that will never happen, will it? Everybody has to pee in the pot and make sure everybody is doing it the "right" way. The bill will get so complex and absurd the lawmakers will just say, "screw this! Let's just ban it."
 
Gabe said:
Who's going to have coffee with Beall and ask him WTF is up with this bill? A flood of angry motorcyclists would make him think twice about being involved with this issue:

https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/Pu...s/SD15/70_Coffee_with_Senator_Jim_Beall_.html

Sign up and go!
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I wanted to go but I have an offsite meeting - couldn't make it back up in time from down there.

Supposedly he's pro-moto. Maybe just talking with him gets us more at this point than showing up with an angry mob. :cool
 
Hmm. I'll be free that morning. I imagine I won't have much more time than it would take for me to ask him to please consider that lanesplitting has been pretty much a non-issue up until this point, and motorcyclists would be very endeared to him for keeping it that way. Unless the law specifically legalizes/protects it, and NOT in the horrible (weenie) way the placeholder was written.
 
Well I looked at the bottom of my paycheck and saw this advertisement of moto safety on the last couple of lines. Glad it specifically states to share the road. Maybe they don't mean by splitting, but that was my first impression, its good to see nontheless. I bet no one reads the bottom notes anyway.

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carry on..
 
KrustyKruser said:
Well I looked at the bottom of my paycheck and saw this advertisement of moto safety on the last couple of lines. Glad it specifically states to share the road. Maybe they don't mean by splitting, but that was my first impression, its good to see nontheless. I bet no one reads the bottom notes anyway.

carry on..
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Cool! Even if it doesn't get read by too many people.
 
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