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Does BMW have a Start/Stop system on any of their bikes?

Pretend you're someone who doesn't give a crap about vehicles, and one little round gray and blue logo can look pretty similar to a little round gray and black logo.

Especially when the rider is yelling silly comments at you. :laughing
 
ST Guy said:
If the engine is already warmed up and in a proper state of tune, no "wheewheewhee" is necessary. One can touch the starter button and in an instant it's running. And one is skilled with operating the controls, they can thumb the starter as they're releasing the clutch and them move forward in one smooth action and no real starting sound. I've done it with my ST.
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Maybe the STs are different but my bikes were always a little bit harder to start once they'd been running for a while. It varies of course but on a hot day after an hour of riding it felt like it wanted to crank once or twice more than usual when cold...

Be that as it may I'm going to find out more from her tonight as far as tell tale details and maybe there's something she remembers that will be more telling.
 
Z3n said:
Pretend you're someone who doesn't give a crap about vehicles, and one little round gray and blue logo can look pretty similar to a little round gray and black logo.

Especially when the rider is yelling silly comments at you. :laughing
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Absolutely! There's the run though because she's into BMW's (cars) so even though she's not car tech saavy, she recognizes that branding even at a distance like a woman can differentiate Dolce & Gabbana from Mark Jacobs from 200 meters :)
 
some bmws are unbelievably quiet. mine sounds like a sewing machine...
 
I think she saw a BMW C650 scooter. Very quiet at idle. Peruse the BMW global media site--you will find nothing about start/stop system for motorcycles.
 
My buddy has an R1100RT that idles so quiet you have to be within a foot or two of it in dead silence to know it's running. I've stood there and watched him turn it around and the moment he clutched in I thought it had stalled, but then he gave it gas and you heard it come back to life.

That is probably what it is because I've had a similar moment where I thought the bike was off, but it was just idling super quietly.
 
Agreed with ST. My bike would start up really quick after it's been running (not even that long), sometimes with barely a crank sound.

I don't think there's any BMW bikes with auto start/stop engine yet.
 
my S1k always take a few cranks even when hot. my zrx I press the stater button for 1/4 seconds and it is lit
 
Gabe said:
I think she saw a BMW C650 scooter. Very quiet at idle.
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BMW says the C650GT is heavier and longer than an R1200RT
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Doen't that defeat the purpose of a scooter? Light, nimble?
 
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kiltwearinfool said:
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Doen't that defeat the purpose of a scooter? Light, nimble?
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I'm hurt you didn't read my review of the bike:

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/915/1...13-BMW-C-600-Sport---C-650-GT-First-Ride.aspx

I did a goofy video, too.

Anyway, the C650GT is about the same size (actually a tiny bit smaller and lighter) as a R1200RT, but scooters have many purposes. The C650 is a maxi-scooter, designed for longer commutes between cities. Around town, it's more ponderous than a smaller scooter, for sure, but still easier to handle then, say, an R1200RT!
 
kiltwearinfool said:
Doen't that defeat the purpose of a scooter? Light, nimble?[/QUOTE]

It's nimble, but it's not light. The GT pictured is about the same weight as the R1200RT (think BMW police bike, the civilian version).

I rode one and have to admit it's pretty stable and quick. A video to illustrate: [url]http://youtu.be/wyiXWTMvCLc[/url]
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Have you guys not watched the mythbusters hypermiling episode? Shutting of your engine at a stop light was confirmed to save gas. In a car this would be noticeable on a bike possibly not. I wouldn't do it though. I'd prefer to be watching my mirrors with the bike on ready to get out of the way if needed.
 
Gabe said:
Anyway, the C650GT is about the same size (actually a tiny bit smaller and lighter) as a R1200RT, but scooters have many purposes. The C650 is a maxi-scooter, designed for longer commutes between cities. Around town, it's more ponderous than a smaller scooter, for sure, but still easier to handle then, say, an R1200RT!
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Agreed and I read it, Gabe. That's just it! It doesn't feel anywhere as heavy as an R1200RT. :laughing
 
Pretty sure it had to be the BMW scooter. They are very quiet at idle. Very. However, they are pretty noisy once you get going. Even highway speed is noisier than expected.
Partially due to chain drive instead of shaft. (Chain is enclosed)
They are pretty chubby, but with power unit down low, they feel very light.
One interesting fact is that the power unit is made in Taiwan by Kymco, joint design to BMW's specs, but made by Kymco.
BMW has been in with Kymco for several years. The now discontinued 450 Dualsport, and the current G650, F650-700-800GS motor are Kymco as well.
 
Tri750 said:
Pretty sure it had to be the BMW scooter. They are very quiet at idle. Very. However, they are pretty noisy once you get going. Even highway speed is noisier than expected.
Partially due to chain drive instead of shaft. (Chain is enclosed)
They are pretty chubby, but with power unit down low, they feel very light.
One interesting fact is that the power unit is made in Taiwan by Kymco, joint design to BMW's specs, but made by Kymco.
BMW has been in with Kymco for several years. The now discontinued 450 Dualsport, and the current G650, F650-700-800GS motor are Kymco as well.
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Don't be so sure Kymco makes the powerplant--they're actually very different. Yes, BMW and Kymco have some kind of agreement, but we don't know Kymco is making all the motor as the details of the agreement are confidential. I think it may share some components, but it's pretty different.

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Kymco is on the bottom...
 
could they be testing a hybrid? Honda supposedly has been working on one, would make sense for BMW to have one too, given their customer base. Testing it here doesn't really make sense though, unless they used a local firm for some engineering.

And I thought Kymeco was making all the engines (to BMW specs), and the entire engine.
Sort of like they did with the Funduro where they had an outside compnay make the engine (whose name escapes me at the moment, but they also made Aprilia engines).
 
Rotax made the funduro and early F650 engines. It got expensive. For a short time, BMW supplied thier own cylinder head, for a very short period, BMW made the engine.
Since 2009 or so when the reintroduced 650 came out, the "K" word company made the engine.
The scooter motor is not a Kymco meaning also used in Kymco scooters. They use shaft drive. It's made to fit the specs set by BMW.
But don't tell anyone. It's confidential.
(It's common knowledge, but don't tell anyone)
 
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