Please sign petition to open Zero Emission OHV park in SJ

[Butch]

signed, and put this in the comments section: Creating this park is environmentally progressive and correct. San Jose can, and should, lead the world.

 

[The Deanster]

Just got this from the city. I need to prove we want this. only 36 signatures so far :|

"...At that time, active recreation uses such as cricket, softball, soccer and other uses were considered having the highest community benefit because the community is chronically underserved with sports fields which require larger land areas such as this site offers".

 

[Butch]

Just got this from the city. I need to prove we want this. only 36 signatures so far :|

"...At that time, active recreation uses such as cricket, softball, soccer and other uses were considered having the highest community benefit because the community is chronically underserved with sports fields which require larger land areas such as this site offers".

Should we be talking to our councilpersons?
Yeah, cricket fields take up lots of area, and there are so few school fields available on weekends.

Posted on SBR? Have you talked to the AMA folks? I'll send a note to Dave Pickett... It seems like we should be able to get many thousand signatures pretty easily, but... herding cats is difficult.

 

[The Deanster]

Should we be talking to our councilpersons?
Yeah, cricket fields take up lots of area, and there are so few school fields available on weekends.

Posted on SBR? Have you talked to the AMA folks? I'll send a note to Dave Pickett... It seems like we should be able to get many thousand signatures pretty easily, but... herding cats is difficult.

Talking to your councilmember wouldn't hurt. The person they should give feedback to is:

Marybeth Harasz, ASLA, AICP
Deputy Director, Parks, Recreation and Neighborhood Services
City of San José

Yes, posted on SBR and LinkedIn. I don't use Facebook. I'm in contact with AMA leadership and they are working to help.

I'm asking San Jose to partner with and allow State Parks to open an interim park on a 40 acre plot already designated as recreation until the majority of the land designated as "flexible space" is available in 2027.

At that time if allowed, the park would move and the original 40 acres can be developed as ball fields. They say they weren't going to develop the park for ten years anyway.

 

[The Deanster]

Do you guys think going to the media would help or hurt?

 

[Smash Allen]

I think it would help, it's silent eco friendly tech that's new. Seems like a slam dunk to me?

 

[The Deanster]

I think it would help, it's silent eco friendly tech that's new. Seems like a slam dunk to me?

Thanks, I'm thinking about contacting an environmental / parks reporter at the Mercury. I agree, why they aren't more interested in having an official state park like this is beyond me.

 

[1962siia]

Signed!

 

[Butch]

do you, er, we have a friend in politics?
Cortese? except he is a county supervisor...
I'll contact Carrasco, my councilperson, and Campos, my assemblywoman, and see if they want to champion our cause.

Hey, barfers, any of you guys know your representatives? This should be addressed on the local and state level.

 

[bpw]

Just got this from the city. I need to prove we want this. only 36 signatures so far :|

"...At that time, active recreation uses such as cricket, softball, soccer and other uses were considered having the highest community benefit because the community is chronically underserved with sports fields which require larger land areas such as this site offers".

While it's not what we all want to hear, they have a point. How many more kids could use a BMX track, skate park, or sports field compared to a moto track that can only be used by a few people with currently very expensive electric bikes?

 

[The Deanster]

do you, er, we have a friend in politics?
Cortese? except he is a county supervisor...
I'll contact Carrasco, my councilperson, and Campos, my assemblywoman, and see if they want to champion our cause.

Hey, barfers, any of you guys know your representatives? This should be addressed on the local and state level.

Thanks Butch, I have the attached letters of support from the local district 4 Councilmenber Nguyen, Assemblymember Chu, Supervisor Cortese and the State Park OHMVR Division.

I've been dealing with Fred Buzo at Nguyen's office but have been told that Marybeth Harasz, Deputy Director, Parks, Recreation and Neighborhood Services should now be my single point of contact with the city. Nobody told you guys that. She would be the one your Councilmember should contact.

If anyone needs the documents to give to a representative PM me with your email.

Thanks to all of who have signed, I really appreciate it I'll post some of the awesome comments submitted.

 

[The Deanster]

While it's not what we all want to hear, they have a point. How many more kids could use a BMX track, skate park, or sports field compared to a moto track that can only be used by a few people with currently very expensive electric bikes?

There could be a BMX track and a skate park. A several mile mountain bike trail loop and miles of paved multi use trails are included in the main park. I was thinking about an RC airport and RC car tracks, drone racing, etc. Rental bikes will be provided by the park at least until enough users own them.

The phase one interim park would be on 40 acres already designated as recreation and if allowed, move into the much larger area in 10 years. The ball fields could be developed on the 40 acres at that time.

I was told that that park won't be developed for 10 years anyway. We just want to borrow the land for 10 years. The next battle is getting into the reclaimed open space.

For scale; the 40 acre interim park is 1/2 mile long.

 

[The Deanster]

Thanks for the comments on the petition

- off-road dirt biking is a favorite pastime of mine
- it's a very family-friendly activity
- it's in my backyard
- it would be an innovative attraction that no place else has
- I want to buy an electric bike anyways

I own both internal cumbusion and electric motorbikes. The only place to ride the IC bikes I have are OHV parks and they are getting more restrictive every year due to environmental impact. I know electric bikes have greatly reduce impact and I want to support initiatives which can educate the general public about the difference. Any new areas to ride I'll support.

Creating this park is environmentally progressive and correct. San Jose can, and should, lead the world.

People should have alternatives to enjoy the outdoors that don't include the same boring bird watching stations and disc golf.

We need electric transportation and this park will showcase the capabilities to young people.

This is a great idea!

I'm signing because I believe that an electric OHV park is a sound, viable idea that I would personally participate in. Bring it on!

I think it's a great idea!

A zero emissions OHV park would be a huge benefit to the community. Provide outdoor recreation opportunities near town and not require 60-90 minute drive in a tow vehicle to Hollister of Carnegie OHV parks.

I'm signing because of the joy of having a space to explore and be creative on electric vehicles.

 

[bpw]

Ahh, cool,

The rental idea totally changes things. I like the idea of it being a testing ground of sorts for the transition to electric vehicles. I'll be signing once I am home to my computer.

 

[The Deanster]

Ahh, cool,

The rental idea totally changes things. I like the idea of it being a testing ground of sorts for the transition to electric vehicles. I'll be signing once I am home to my computer.

Thanks

Here is what the main park could look like except a lot bumpier. The land will be a clean slate and will allow terrain to be created. These are from just across from the landfill in Fremont...

Perhaps when the landfill closes it could be incorporated into the park. It's the tallest hill for miles

 

[FatCampChamp]

Hello all, I could use some help convincing
I need to show that there are plenty of people that would prefer this park to cricket or ball fields and ultimately a larger park over industrial development.

I'm curious why you mention industrial development. If that was an option, why wasn't residential development an option? It's selfish to put e-bike/cricket/ball ahead of the housing crisis. An e-bike park in morgan hill or whatever isn't going to inconvenience us much. It just seems like a huge societal cost to dedicate the land to this small slice of society. If the politics are e-bikes vs cricket, then yea I'm all in, but I'd like more clarification.

 

[meldog21]

Done.


Dog

 

[budman]

Signed and $50 Bux from barf to support this.



Takes 1 minute to sign. Let's go peeps. This could be huge for families in our urban environment.

 

[bpw]

Signed,

I think you are really on the right track promoting this as something to promote a future increase in electric bikes.

Also, what about getting the electric assist Mountain bike folks involved, seems they could co-exist with dirtbikes on a track.

 

[The Deanster]

I'm curious why you mention industrial development. If that was an option, why wasn't residential development an option? It's selfish to put e-bike/cricket/ball ahead of the housing crisis. An e-bike park in morgan hill or whatever isn't going to inconvenience us much. It just seems like a huge societal cost to dedicate the land to this small slice of society. If the politics are e-bikes vs cricket, then yea I'm all in, but I'd like more clarification.

The majority of the open land was designated as "flexible space" which could include recreation or an industrial development during the EIR process. Housing was ruled out probably because it's next to the treatment plant.

The Economic Development Division wants the development. I'm offering a viable alternative to development that will preserve the open space.

 

[The Deanster]

Signed,

I think you are really on the right track promoting this as something to promote a future increase in electric bikes.

Also, what about getting the electric assist Mountain bike folks involved, seems they could co-exist with dirtbikes on a track.

I agree, the E-bikes are blurring the line between pedal bike and motorcycle more and more. I'm sure the State would welcome them.


http://www.boltmotorbikes.com/

 

[The Deanster]

Signed and $50 Bux from barf to support this.



Takes 1 minute to sign. Let's go peeps. This could be huge for families in our urban environment.

Awesome! Thanks Budman!!

 

[FatCampChamp]

The majority of the open land was designated as "flexible space" which could include recreation or an industrial development during the EIR process. Housing was ruled out probably because it's next to the treatment plant.

The Economic Development Division wants the development. I'm offering a viable alternative to development that will preserve the open space.

To be clear, they only consider the space for industrial or recreational use?

 

[Butch]

Dean, there is a sewage treatment plant out there that i am not seeing on the map, correct?

 

[The Deanster]

To be clear, they only consider the space for industrial or recreational use?

The Mayor's rep put it this way- "(Some groups) want no people out there at all, on the other hand the Economic Division wants a development. This park may be a good middle ground".

I think they were worried about chemical or gas releases from the plant as far as housing although they already switched over from the nasty stuff.

The time to fight for housing would have been in 2010 during the EIR. San Jose doesn't necessarily want housing. It wants industrial because everyone lives there but works outside the city and the tax base suffers.