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Want to do first track day this year

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Hiya,

I feel confident enough to finally head over to a track for my first ever track day. I don't want to take my own bike, though. Too much power for a newb like me to handle on a liter bike. Was thinking of the little rental 250's or 300's for the first track day. What should I expect and know? What's the cost of a track day, average?

All tips, insights, advice, and words are appreciated! :teeth

Aryan
 
You're crossed-up in your avi. Move your head and shoulder to the inside. Everything else will follow. There, I just saved you $500.

The bike really isn't too much power, if you ride to learn, and not to beat others on the track. Hook-up with an instructor at the track and follow them around for a session, if you aren't a dummy like me that thinks they know everything. All the local providers are competent in my opinion. You should post in traq daze.
 
if you can swing it, rent a 300 from Feel Like a Pro and sign up in a C group at Keigwins or any other track provider that they rent at. They usually have a class room orientation in the morning for folks like you. You'll learn a lot and have a blast
 
if you can swing it, rent a 300 from Feel Like a Pro and sign up in a C group at Keigwins or any other track provider that they rent at. They usually have a class room orientation in the morning for folks like you. You'll learn a lot and have a blast

this ^^^^
 
Approach the day with an open mind and no ego. You'll be amazed how much you're doing wrong and how slow you are!

A rental would take care of the bike check list I assume. Depending on when you go you may want:

-tent or shaded area
-chair
-food
-bring lots of water and fluids - you dehydrate quickly out there

Make sure you have all the gear 1 piece leather suit or 2 piece that zips, up to date helmet, gauntlet gloves, boots above the ankle, back protector at a minimum.

Lastly KNOW WHEN TO CALL IT A DAY.

I had a lot of friends go out for one more session and bad things happen. You're tired, other people are tired and are trying to push one last session, back east I saw more guys leave in the ambo the first session after lunch and the last session of the day than any other. If you're tired. Don't go out.

Ask lots of questions, learn the race line more over seeing how fast you can go. That comes with time. Be mindful of your inputs and be predictable. The worst thing you can be out there is unpredictable.
 
As a recent track noob I am not sure a big bike is a problem. You will be riding slow no matter what bike you have and I really enjoyed being able to pretty much leave my liter bike in one gear the whole way around the track and not worry about shifting. On the other hand I have been riding for a quite a while so my throttle control is solid and I can easily keep a big bike out of the scary power range. The big bikes will punish mistakes you might get away with on a little bike if you control inputs aren't smooth.

I think later on a small bike could be great for progress, but I wouldn't worry about it on your first couple track days.
 
I enjoyed Z2's course for first time track experience. Some tips (if you can swing it):

- Get a hotel room the night before if at Thunderhill. Believe me, you probably won't be able to sleep the night before with the adrenaline morphing but at least you'll be near the track in the morning.

- Hydrate at least 48 hrs before track day. Drink lots of water the day of. My first track day I brought food and ate hardly any of it because it was pretty warm and I was just thirsty the whole time.

- Make sure you have a full two piece or one piece leather equivalent. Some providers let you do textile.

- Bring a good quality air pressure gauge (even if you are renting). You'll want to monitor your tire pressure throughout the day (trust me, it fluctuates a whole lot differently than street riding).

- If you decide to bring your bike, bring a spare key. Things do happen.

- Remember to have fun and take pics. I had so much fun my first track day I went for a second day with a nice discount from the provider.
 
We've been working on a "Beginner's Guide to Trackdays" as a moderator group for a while. Here is the final rough draft that might be helpful. Once it's complete and the boss gives it the :thumbup, it will be posted as a Sticky in the Trackdays forum:

Beginner’s Guide to Trackdays

So you want to ride your motorcycle on the track, huh? Great! Not much else on this planet is more addicting than going fast on a motorcycle in safe environment. Now that you’ve made the decision to venture into this wonderful world, there are a few things you need to know.

This post is designed to be a sort of walkthrough for those interested in riding trackdays. It is not an all inclusive list and there will be things you realize you like/need as you participate more and more.

Select your trackday provider. There are a ton of them out there that run at different tracks on different dates. Find one that suits your needs and sign up. If this is your first trackday, I recommend signing up for the beginner group (usually named C group or B- group). You might be a fast street rider, but this is a different sport. If you get there are too fast for the group you signed up, ask an instructor to move up a group. They might want to follow you for a few laps and make sure you’re ready. Conversely, if you sign up for B/B+ and it’s too fast, there’s no shame in bumping down a group provided there is room. Just ask the instructors and they will try to accommodate.

Remember…. there isn’t any room for ego at these events though. There’s no trophy at the end of the day. The purpose of these events is to have fun and build your skill set. It doesn’t matter what group that happens in.


Assuming you’ve already found a trackday provider and selected a date for your first experience here is what you need to do before you get there:

Preparing your motorcycle:

Most trackday providers require a basic level of preparation for a motorcycle to pass technical inspection and be suitable for riding on the race track. These tasks generally include:

  • The motorcycle must be in good, working condition and is current on maintenance including serviceable chain, sprockets, oil change, and brake fluid.
  • It's a good idea to go over the motorcycle and check for loose bolts also. Not only can losing a bolt result in catastrophic failure, but a bolt flying off a motorcycle at 100+mph is a dangerous projectile to other riders on the track.
  • Motorcycle should not be excessively oily or dirty.
  • Taping of glass parts including mirrors, headlamps, tail lights.
  • Removing bulbs or fuses from tail and brake lamps.
  • It is recommended to replace antifreeze with non-glycol coolant such as Water Wetter.
  • Tires in good condition and designed for roadway use (road tires or slicks, no knobbies).
  • Taping wheel weights (duct tape works fine).
  • Valve stem caps in place.
  • Brake and Clutch lever must have the ball ends still attached.
  • Working kill switch
  • Kickstand spring loaded, fixed, or removed
  • Stock exhaust or dB inserts are required for Laguna Seca

Required riding gear:

Now that your motorcycle is ready to hit the track, let’s make sure you’ve got all the equipment necessary to safely ride. The following is a list of riding gear that is necessary or highly recommended.

  • An uncrashed full face DOT approved helmet with visor.
  • One piece or two piece leather (must zip together all the way around) riding suit.
  • *Some providers allow a 2-piece zip together textile suit similar to an Aerostich for C group.
  • Leather full gauntlet style (overlap suit sleeves) motorcycle gloves.
  • Full ankle motorcycle boots.
  • Back protector.
  • Medical insurance.
  • Bring your motorcycle keys or any other keys you may need to ride your motorcycle (cable/brake locks, etc...). You may laugh, but it wouldn't be on the list if no one ever forgot it!


Recommended packing list:

Here are some other things you may consider bringing to make your experience more enjoyable:

  • Canopy (EZ-Up)
  • Folding chairs
  • Sack lunch
  • Cooler with bottled water
  • Tool kit
  • Motorcycle ramp
  • Tire pressure gauge
  • Air pump/compressed air
  • Emergency contact information (in case you’re by yourself)
  • Duct tape
  • Zip ties
  • Cash $$$

As you progress into faster groups, you may consider adding the follow items to your equipment list:

  • Front and rear stands
  • Generator
  • Fan to plug into generator
  • Tire warmers to plug into generator
  • Spares kit (some providers will let you back on the track if you crash after you re-tech the bike)

Days prior:

Alrighty… Now that you’re motorcycle is ready and you’ve got all the riding equipment and gear you need let’s talk about what to do in the days coming up to your first track experience.

First things first: HYDRATE!!!!

You’re about to use muscles you never knew you had and riding a motorcycle around a race track for 20 minutes straight can be physically and mentally exhausting. You’re body will need all the fluids it can take.

Drink plenty of water for the few days prior to your trackday. For hydration at the racetrack facility, I recommend coconut water and Pedialyte. I generally drink water throughout the day and also add on coconut water and/or Pedialyte in between on-track sessions. If your trackday is at Thunderhill Raceway in the summer time, you’ll really appreciate having liquids in your body because temps can get to 110*.

It’s also important to eat a healthy and full mean the night before. Again, this stuff is physically demanding. Your body will need the carbohydrates to burn so you don’t get mentally and physically gassed (pun intended) on the track.

Planning the trip:

If you’re traveling far to the track, it might be worth it to look into local hotels so you can leave the night before and get a decent amount of rest before getting up bright and early to head to the track. Buttonwillow Raceway is about 4 hours from the San Francisco. Thunderhill Raceway is about 2.5 hours. Sonoma Raceway is about 45 minutes. Laguna Seca is about 2 hours.

Some providers open the gates the night before the event so you can camp inside or outside the gates if you're the outdoorsy type.


The day of:

If you’re planning on leaving the morning of the event, make sure you leave early enough that you can arrive at between 7:00am and 7:30am. The facility gates, registration, and tech usually open at 7:00am. The earlier you get there, the less of a line you’ll have to deal with.

If you’re there early (before 7am) and you see a bunch of trailers or tents set up, don’t make a bunch of racket while unpacking your gear or revving your motorcycle. Some folks might still be sleeping.

When you arrive, find a spot in the pits and it’s time to set up your pit for the day. Most pit spots are lined with white paint. Be reasonable in the space you take. Depending on the day, it might be full and you’ll look like a jerk taking up 3 pits with a single cab Tacoma and one motorcycle.

  1. Go to registration and check in. They will give you a tech slip that you’ll need to bring with you for tech inspection.
  2. Take your motorcycle and helmet to technical inspection. The tech inspectors will look over your motorcycle. They may ask questions or tell you to fix something and bring it back. When you pass tech, the inspector will put a sticker on your bike indicating which group you’re in and that you’ve passed.
  3. Rider’s Meeting. THIS IS MANDATORY FOR ALL RIDERS. It doesn’t matter if you’ve been to this track 100 times. During this meeting, they go over the flags, track conditions, rules/procedures of the day, and track entrance and exits. They will go over the format for the day (order of groups), when lunch break is, and introduce some of the vendors and services that are provided at the track (massage, photography, suspension services, tires, etc…)
  4. After Rider’s Meeting, you’ll have maybe 15-30 minutes to prepare for the first session of the day. Different providers run different formats. Some start with A group. Some start with C group. Just listen to the PA announcements.

Next, the PA announcer will call the first group of the day. If it’s C group, get ready! The addiction is about to begin!


Time on the track:

Most trackday providers offer a sighting session for C group riders who are new to the track. This will be 1 instructor assigned to 5-6 riders and the pace will be very relaxed. The purpose of this session is to get you comfortable on the track, show you the lines to take around the track, and make sure you’re capable of riding a motorcycle at slightly elevated speeds. Pay attention to the instructors.

After that initial session, it will be on you. Report for C group, go out, and have a blast. If you want to improve your pace, you are encouraged to pull an instructor aside and ask for help, ask for a tow, or ask any questions you have.

What to do between sessions:

Make sure to hydrate after each session on track. Dehydration and heat exhaustion creep up quickly! Drink after every on-track session, even if you're not thirsty. "If you ain't peeing, you're dying!" I like coconut water because it is rich in potassium, which can help with muscle cramps. I also drink Pedialyte throughout the day because it has electrolytes yo!

It's also a good idea to get some calories in between sessions. Something light such as an energy bar, trail mix, fruit, etc... Eat cheeseburgers and chili fries at your own risk! There's nothing worse than having a track session cut short because you had a bathroom emergency. At some point, there will also be a lunch break when the track shuts down. Some tracks have a concession stand that will have stuff like burgers, sandwiches, fries, etc... Some folks pack a lunch. Don't eat too much during lunch, because that first session after lunch isn't far off and we don't want a bathroom emergency.

To stay cool in between sessions there are lots of things you can do. I like a wet towel over my head/neck. If you're at a track with power hookups, perhaps plan on bringing a fan with you to get air moving around. Try and stay in the shade as much as possible also. You're in the sun in a 10lb leather suit working your body strenuously. Any down time should be taken advantage of.

Most trackday providers also have track photography services on site. It doesn't hurt to check in with them throughout the day and check your body position and line on the track to see where you might be able to improve in future sessions or trackdays. If you like a picture, PAY FOR IT! Don't swipe it for free from the photographer's website or take a picture of the monitor with your cell phone. It's poor form. That's how these folks make a living.

Once the day is over, it's time to pack up. Make sure you pick up everything you brought and throw away any garbage you had in your pit. Don't leave the pits a mess. If you brought someone with you (like a significant other, husband/wife, brother/sister, or non-riding friend), it might be smart to let them drive home. You're going to be tired.


Final Thoughts:

BARF is a huge resource available to you. If you want to get into trackdays but still have questions, don't hesitate to search old threads, post new threads, or reach out to experienced riders. There is a REALLY good chance that there will be dozens of other BARFers at the track when you're there. These experienced track riders can be a great resource to you. If you feel you might need some guidance or want to meet cool new people, arrange to pit next to another BARFer who can guide you through the day and give tips and tricks for making the experience more enjoyable and making sure you learn as much as you can.

The whole purpose of riding on the track is to have fun. No one would pay this much money for a hobby if they're not having fun. Keeping that in mind, remember that riding a motorcycle is dangerous and the dangers can be elevated in a track environment. If you don't feel safe, be it because of your skill level, actions of other riders on the track, track conditions, or something else, tell an instructor and remove yourself from the environment by exiting the track through the designated pit exit. Be considerate to other riders on the track also. There are dozens of other people that paid the same money you did for the same experience.
 
I went to last years n00b day, my only track day so far. Highly recommend it. Ill try not to rehash anything but I'll add a few things.

Basically for the first time I tried to limit distractions.

DONT try to attach a billion cameras and recorders and etc... to record the sessions. It may prove too tempting to do something "worth recording." There will probably be professional instructors there that will give you 1000% better advice from being there than any armchair critic. Also, there will probably be a track photographer there to buy photos from. He will make you look like a million bucks, well worth the fee.

DO tape over your speedometer. Probably the one piece of prep I wish I did. Upon reflection I found it very distracting trying to hit a new "high score" when I should have been preparing for the next turn. Remove the temptation.

This one's a maybe but go it alone! Pretty scary but I went to my first track day not knowing anyone there. It was nice not trying to find my friends on track or trying to keep up with them or slowing down to let them keep up or etc... etc... It's good to be selfish and just focus on yourself. If you ever need help there will be 10 people there to help you out, even if you're not wearing daisy dukes and a crop top. You already share a common hobby so everyone there is a friend waiting to be made.

Lastly, I believe the instructors are there for every session so it doesn't hurt to ask for more professional guidance throughout the day. I kept asking one instructor guidance through the day so he could give me tailored advice as I progressed through the sessions. He was more than happy to help. Just a top tip. :)

Definitely do the track day. It might just be the most fun you have on 2 wheels.
 
Have you considered taking a dirt riding course like Rich Oliver's Mystery school or Brian Bartlow's Feel Like a Pro Dirt?

After a day in the dirt, it's laughable how much traction asphalt provides. I think feel like a pro track even recommends folks attend the dirt program first. Lots of professional and amateur racers train in the dirt. From Rossi to local AFM guys.

Most fun I've ever had on a motorcycle was up at Bartlow's ranch.
 
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I feel confident enough to finally head over to a track for my first ever track day. I don't want to take my own bike, though. Too much power for a newb like me to handle on a liter bike.

If you don't think you can handle your current bike on the track, then you definitely shouldn't be riding it on the street! The street is much more dangerous and much more difficult to ride than the track...

If you've never been to a track day before, I highly recommend attending a school. I've attended and can recommend the California Superbike School (Keith Code), Jason Pridmore's STAR School, and the Keigwin's Novice School. The California Superbike School has a very regimented program. Pridmore and Keigwin are more flexible in terms of what you work on and when. California Superbike School and STAR rent bikes, though rentals are pricey and tend to be booked far in advance.

Random thoughts:

- Attending a two-day school is much better than a single-day school; everything really starts to "click" on that second day
- If you're planning to ride your bike to the track, don't try to ride home the day of the event
- Book your track day for early in the riding season; after your first time, you'll definitely want to attend more before the season ends
- Do as much bike prep as possible before you get to the track; you don't want to be the person struggling to flush their coolant in the motel parking lot or at the paddock
- Learn to be on time! On-time for registration, on-time for the rider's meeting, on-time for sighting laps, etc.
- If you need or want more help, ask for it!
- Try to get a 2-up ride behind an instructor! Nothing opened my eyes to what a motorcycle was capable of more than riding 2-up behind Jason Pridmore
 
As a recent track noob I am not sure a big bike is a problem. You will be riding slow no matter what bike you have and I really enjoyed being able to pretty much leave my liter bike in one gear the whole way around the track and not worry about shifting. On the other hand I have been riding for a quite a while so my throttle control is solid and I can easily keep a big bike out of the scary power range. The big bikes will punish mistakes you might get away with on a little bike if you control inputs aren't smooth.

I think later on a small bike could be great for progress, but I wouldn't worry about it on your first couple track days.

I am going to disagree with you, not on the liter bike issue, but riding your street bike to the track. Sure, I did it with my Street Triple for my first 9 days without issue. But despite all the smack A talks about B, C can be a real shit show when it comes to crashing. My first C day, about 25% of the group crashed. Crashing at track speeds can mean a total loss.

It's worth the cash to rent a "Ride Like A Pro" and not have to worry about losing your pride and joy.

Have you considered taking a dirt riding course like Rich Oliver's Mystery school or Brian Bartlow's Feel Like a Pro Dirt?

After a day in the dirt, it's laughable how much traction asphalt provides. I think feel like a pro track even recommends folks attend the dirt program first. Lots of professional and amateur racers train in the dirt. From Rossi to local AFM guys.

Most fun I've ever had on a motorcycle was up at Bartlow's ranch.

I like this approach ^ ^:thumbup
 
Track days are NOT race days. No trophies. In my first few track days I felt that some riders were too close (especially in corners) for my comfort so I would slightly back off to give myself more room. Do not be erratic and you'll be fine at your own pace.

I tracked my R1 and had a blast but I also highly recommend renting from Brian at feellikeapro.com :thumbup

Good luck!
 
What's the cost of a track day, average?

The first one isn't too bad. It's the 400 you'll be wanting to do after that add up! Prepare for the addiction. :rofl

The first time on a track can make you feel like you have to be a "racer" and go warp speed to not look like a n00b. You don't. Just ride to have fun and consider your first day to simply get acclimated to the atmosphere. Tech and grid calls and classroom sessions can be a bit overwhelming.

My best piece of advice is for after you've done it. Don't ride like an asshat on the street trying to practice or recreate the experience..
 
My best piece of advice is for after you've done it. Don't ride like an asshat on the street trying to practice or recreate the experience..

This is surprisingly important - I know I went through that phase after a couple trackdays thinking I was all badass and stuff, and have DEFINITELY seen it on group rides. You can always pick out the riders who've done a few trackdays and think they know what they're doing, but actually don't :laughing Actually a big reason I hate open group rides now, as I find those riders eternally frustrating - on the brakes and throttle at all the wrong times, but thinking they're Rossi out there and at the edge of their skills...

...of course, now I ride like a grandma on the street (most of the time anyways), so maybe I'm just a grumpy old racer-type.
 
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