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2016 AFM club questions

I think we're also discounting what training and preparation costs are, as well. Ultimately, Eric's correct to be careful where we tread, lest we price racers out of the market. However, the AFM has lots of cheaper racing classes.

I like the moves the AFM made to allow riders to ride/ up down classes which probably did the most for the club in terms of races/ rider on a given weekend. Our real problem is we can't be very far off the ruleset of others clubs and everyone still seems to follow AMA rules...
 
SonoraMike said:
might be good to compile an overview of all the diff orgs and how their points systems work - FIM, WSBK, BSB, MotoAmerica, along with whatever clubs that operate at an AFM level - to create a baseline for a conversation on how to fix the AFM
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- all FIM championships incl GP, WSBK, MotoAmerica, BSB, CEV, CIV, and more follow the same format for points. 25, 20, 16, 13, 11, 10, 9,....1.
- CVMA does the same as FIM
- WERA does 20, 17, 15, 13, 11, 10, 9....1 for regionals.
- CCS is 35, 30, 26, 23, 21, 19, 18, 17.... 1
- UtahSBA is 36, 32, 29, 27, 26... 1
- OMRRA gives the FIM points for 12 or more starters, except every finisher gets at least 4pts. DNFs get 2pts. for under 12 starters, the max points decrease. 2 starters is 8pts for a win. if u race by yourself, u get 4pts.
- MotoWestGP has a static system with 3 different scales that pay to 10th and every starter gets 1pt. their top class has one scale, all other Sat races on another scale, and all Sun races on a third scale.
 
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What is always causing the grids to be changed? Particularly when it gets so close to a race start.

It seems to be it would be best to leave holes on the grid for someone who can't start and anyone that adds a race should start from the back.

I would prefer the above far more than mass confusion during the race right before mine or, like I saw a couple of times at round 1, grids being reassigned as bikes were heading out on their warm up laps.
 
I am loving this open discussion of the rules, really like the direction it is going too, the AFM point system never did make sense to me.
 
AdrenalineJunky said:
I am loving this open discussion of the rules, really like the direction it is going too, the AFM point system never did make sense to me.
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There is only one small problem with it, this discussion is going on for 10 years or so :teeth
 
TWF said:
There is only one small problem with it, this discussion is going on for 10 years or so :teeth
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thats because your GPS to steer shit has outdated maps and makes wrong turns all the time. Every time, it says make three right turns! :twofinger :rofl
 
Is that why board is standing in circle around shit forever, they lost and don't know what to do with it :)
 
Ozymandias said:
What is always causing the grids to be changed? Particularly when it gets so close to a race start.

It seems to be it would be best to leave holes on the grid for someone who can't start and anyone that adds a race should start from the back.

I would prefer the above far more than mass confusion during the race right before mine or, like I saw a couple of times at round 1, grids being reassigned as bikes were heading out on their warm up laps.
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I *think* it's because we start multiple classes at the same time. Even if they put a new expert 600 prod entry at the back, should it be at the back of expert 600 prod, or the novice 600 prod group that's immediately behind them? Then what about when the 450s and 250s all go at the same time? A late entry 450 shouldn't be behind the 250s, and that means moving all the 250s back 1 spot.
 
TWF said:
Is that why board is standing in circle around shit forever, they lost and don't know what to do with it :)
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going around in circles.....:| maybe


standing in a circle, that's something completely different :laughing
 

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McLovin said:
I *think* it's because we start multiple classes at the same time. Even if they put a new expert 600 prod entry at the back, should it be at the back of expert 600 prod, or the novice 600 prod group that's immediately behind them? Then what about when the 450s and 250s all go at the same time? A late entry 450 shouldn't be behind the 250s, and that means moving all the 250s back 1 spot.
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I hadn't thought about that. Makes a bit of sense, but couldn't we just leave a row open between classes then? :)
 
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