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2020 Investment Thread

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A lot of bitcoin talk happening but from blue clip players this time and not just the fringe speculators.
If there was a way of buying in using my stock trading account I might dabble a bit in this digital thing but would have to see a pullback first of a couple of thousand
 
Blankpage said:
A lot of bitcoin talk happening but from blue clip players this time and not just the fringe speculators.
If there was a way of buying in using my stock trading account I might dabble a bit in this digital thing but would have to see a pullback first of a couple of thousand
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There is a Bitcoin ETF, I bought some a while back. But it's a K1 return IIRC. There were some tax consequences that were not desirable.
 
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DLR is a REIT that deals with data centers. There are a few.
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Sorry, I wasn't clear.
This was referencing someone wanting to buy actual investment property. I was throwing it out there of looking where big players are going to build their next big data center and buy a property there to rent out.
 
The REIT AIV was kicked out of the S&P500

It was loosing money but I'm not sure what the criteria for getting the boot from the S&P.
 

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A lot of bitcoin talk happening but from blue clip players this time and not just the fringe speculators.
If there was a way of buying in using my stock trading account I might dabble a bit in this digital thing but would have to see a pullback first of a couple of thousand
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you can buy ETF's or microstrategy (look up michael saylor and bitcoin, he's bought a bit over a billion dollars of BTC using his company at this point). i would personally look into altcoins too, ethereum's done really well this year for me.
 
An irreverent assessment of Tesla from Down Under.

A couple of tips on the lingo:

Bat tree = battery
Ute = Utility vehicle, e.g. light truck or van

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2020 has been such a good year for investment that it almost makes me think I know what I am doing, lol.

I've made that mistake before.
 
Interesting article in Bloomberg today. Basically they (JP Morgan) are saying it's time to "lever up," or use leverage to increase returns in the credit markets. I see this as a potentially risky, but lucrative, strategy, and believe me I mean risky. It's been a standard ploy of many CEF's for years. Use short term borrowing to leverage your ownership of the bond/loan portfolio, leveraging it ( and thus returns) by 5-40%.

It has worked for years and as long as overnight borrow costs are low, and credit easy, it works. The question, of course, is when will overnight/short term rates rise? When borrowing costs of leveraging jump, the return does the opposite.

It shows in many of the popular CEF's, such as PFN,PFL, NHS, PCN, PCI, etc. They are now trading at premiums when they were trading at discounts to net asset value. That is, it shows investors are aware of the opportunity for a nice 6-9% dividend. And I certainly own some. This can change literally overnight, meaning that share value can plummet if borrowing costs rise suddenly.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ate-bank-is-saying-tis-the-season-to-lever-up
 
^^^Leverage why rental property can be so good.

Make a down payment and the tenants pay for your mortgage, taxes and maintenance if you cut the right deal. Lots of tax write-offs.
 
That sounds familiar....
Wasn't over leveraging what led to 2009 crisis?
 
Roth ira...

My wife and I are looking to fully fund a roth this year... What are the best ones for self directed trading? Low fees ect
 
Caddywumpus said:
Roth ira...

My wife and I are looking to fully fund a roth this year... What are the best ones for self directed trading? Low fees ect
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I think that most, if not all, brokerage firm's offer commission free trading of stocks and ETF's now. I opened a Roth with Schwab recently and like it, but Fidelity is likely just as good/possibly better in some regards. Vanguard, as suggested above, would be good if you are only looking to invest in mutual funds/ETF's, but probably less desirable if you want to actively trade individual stocks.
 
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