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600 or 1000cc ?

TRACKMONKEY said:
Modern 600cc are fast and in fact some of my top 600 riders can hang in there right near our top 1000cc riders.

600 will still use up tires but a 1000 eats up more + fuel! Smaller grids on the 1000 lately in AFM than the 600's but that should not be a factor. Both displacement are fun for sure and the arm pulling power of a 1k can be hell of fun.

I would recommend to go for a bike you have the most seat time on for your first season. If its the 1k great you know how the bike works your comfortable on it etc...!

Peter Fry comes to mind as an example of a novice 1000cc rider who did very well this year racing a super bike. He had a fantastic season rode a bike near to stock and had a good plan with us tire guys regarding his race tire program.

Hope that helps bro I'm just sharing what I see works and I wish you the best of luck on what ever bike you chose to run next year!

Chris.
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In 05 i started on a 1000 I got five top novice awards / And 5 top 15 places. That was back when Experts raced with Novices. Now that Novice is by it self it really makes now Difference what bike your on. The only thing to think about is are you fast enough to be top five, top ten or top 20. If you think your good enough to be top 10 then with a 600 you will be spending way more doe on bike upgrades because even in novice dudes bikes are pretty dialed. On a 600 ever bit of extra hp is needed. And bike setup is paramount But a 1000 all you need is tires, suspension, brakes. No need for anything else to be fast.

Main piece of advice is ever body has to work the next Monday and there is no pay check out there. So take some time to get up to speed don't think your going to win from day one. It's a lot harder then it looks. By the way, what kind of times are you doing at Thunder hill. This will help us give more advice with racing and what you can do to get faster
 
My best time was 2:03 on my 2006 gsxr 1000 which it was basically stock..
And also it was only my 9th Trackday and three of them were half days because of crashing out...
 
Aldo620 said:
My best time was 2:03 on my 2006 gsxr 1000 which it was basically stock..
And also it was only my 9th Trackday and three of them were half days because of crashing out...
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Definitely race what you are comfortable on then. You don't need another huge variable to delay your progress. That bike will take you well beyond what you are running right now, so work on you.
 
Sometimes people go to the bathroom and you're able to snag their bikes and race them. Might be something to think about...
 
Really there are only two thing to consider; :twofinger
As a beginner, racing a 1000cc GSXR will continue to be and obstacle to your learning curve and developement for as long as you stay on it. Period. :nchantr There's alot of AFM'ers I could point out over the years to support that.
If you just want to go out and have fun, mess around and see what happens, and learning as much as possible, as quickly as possible(as if it matters) is not that important to you, don't get a 600(or smaller). :)
That's cool I guess, but I never understood that mentality.

If any of that does matter(is important) to you and learning as much as possible and developing as a rider as thouroughly and quickly and safely and cheaply as possible is what you want, get a 600. Keeping the 1K for track days and additional reference would be optimal. The small bike is where you're really gonna learn stuff that will pay big dividends on the 1K.
Racing is all about ONE thing-winning. NOTHING is more FUN than winning.
I don't mean winning the powder-puff class either. You don't have to be Ben Spies to win FP, but you will have to work at it and prolly be at your best.
If you're gonna go out there(on a 1000 GSXR?) and sspend ALL your money and risk your life, why not take it a bit seriously and have some real fun?

Want more proof? :laughing
 
Holeshot said:
Sometimes people go to the bathroom and you're able to snag their bikes and race them. Might be something to think about...
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Great idea..I will be sure to try that at my next Trackday
 
Just make sure they've got a bux cup somewhere in their pits...that will tell you they'll be in there awhile.
 
also 600 and 1000 cc bikes are for the more experienced. Its a good way to spend a lot of money and get really hurt.
 
I know Aldo since he started attending to the trackdays, very impressive progress in just a few trackdays this year. Bruh does not matter with class or bike you will decide to ride on your first AFM year, you will do well. Best wishes! and you know your team will support you with everything we can.
 
Aldo620 said:
Hello fellow riders
I'm gonna participate on the 2013 AFM season but I just don't know which bike is better to develop on a more competitive level....
I started doing trackdays about 9 months ago and I was able to complete my NRS but all of this was on my gsxr K6 many of my friends have toll me that if I try a smaller bike j should be able to be faster due to the bike being heavier and unforgiving...

So my question is..
Should I buy a race ready 600 or 1000??
Thanks for your feed back all tips and comments are highly appreciated..
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"A man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?"

Ride the big Zook until you can afford a BMW 1000.
 
what are you trying to SAY!!!!!! AFM racers are slow? lol easier said then done haha I know. naw but he will be good once he gets comfortable with everything,great environment, great people,great racing!
cBoo said:
I know Aldo since he started attending to the trackdays, very impressive progress in just a few trackdays this year. Bruh does not matter with class or bike you will decide to ride on your first AFM year, you will do well. Best wishes! and you know your team will support you with everything we can.
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600.

And like berto said... When he goes to the bathroom take 1 of his two bikes. He usually just has them on display Friday, shows up some time sat and talks all day, then farts around Sunday.
 
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