AFM superstock rules

[niclope22]

I was wondering the possible Mods for 600 superstock.

What is it that you can do?

I am sure that Rear-sets is nothing big, and redone shocks.

But, what about a slip-on? Velocity Stacks?, 91-92octane(no race gas)? And a Air filter? Obvious weight advantages is not a factor, although there is a weight limit- i would assume(can't be too light). Street diverived race tires(i.e. dot race, but also street legal- dunlop 208gp and such- no slick)

Thanks in advance, I am sure I could go to the AFM webpage, but it would be cool to hear what you guy do, and think.

 

[niclope22]

sounds good

I guess a slip-on is not legal?

Mainly it is tryig to keep it as stock as possible, but some changes obviously need to be made on race bikes, for their purpose.

Thanks

 

[quasi888]

Correct, slip-on is not legal.

 

[GPgofast]

And it's "Production" not "Superstock".

Engine work IS allowed, the restricting factors on the engines are you MUST use the factory air box and the factory exhaust system. 120+HP motors are not unheard of. Stock wheels and brakes are also required, along with the front forks, etc...GP

Just read Mack's post. Wheels must be aluminum(or whatever the stock material is I assume). There is little to no advantage for aftermarket aluminum wheels other than bling factor.

 

[afm199]

Yep, you can clean up the heads but you can't change stroke, or bore out more than 40 thou. I think. Shock yes, revalved forks yes. No aftermarket pipes. You can use race fairings without headlights, but if you run stock fairings with headlights the headlights MUST BE ABLE TO WORK. Now there is a topic for the next board meeting. But of course the headlights can not be connected when racing and must be taped off.

No slicks, no turbos unless they came on the bike.

 

[Holeshot]

Good bodywork( no double bubbles), braided lines, brake pads, steering dampner, crash mushrooms, revalved front/ rear and you're ready to race.

That formula plus bars/ rearsets got me 5th overall this season...from the back starting.

 

[afmotorsports]

Mainly it is tryig to keep it as stock as possible, but some changes obviously need to be made on race bikes, for their purpose.

Ehhh...no. The AFM Production rules are about as bizzare as you can find anywhere in the world. You want $2,000 aftermarket forged aluminum wheels? Do it! You want Kosman to widen your stock wheels? Sure! You want to change the wheel size from 16" to 17" or from 18" to 17"? Not a problem! How about $3,000 worth of Penkl titanium rods? Bring your Visa! Want a performance shop to build you an "oh my god" motor with those pretty rods, high compression +1mm pistons, mill, port and flow the head and increase horsepower 10-30%? Take out an equity line on the house!! As a matter of fact, there was even a proposal at the last meeting to allow aftermarket radiators in Production!! However, there are aparently some people that are convinced that the stock exhaust requirement negates most of the engine work...

Don't despair though - we have proposals in the works that will hopefully bring true Production rules in 2006, similar to AMA supersport standards.

 

[TWF]

production
on other side you have formula rules where you can buy 500 twin and bore it out to 600 and run down class.but you can't buy 400 twin and bore it out to 500 to run that same class??
it is hard to figure out if afm rule book is way ahead of time or way behind the time but one thing is for sure,it does not fit in present time.
I heard there is new rule book in works where classes will not be based on bikes but on riders performance

 

[niclope22]

However, there are aparently some people that are convinced that the stock exhaust requirement negates most of the engine work...

This is what I thought, It would be silly to increase gas and Air flow, and not increase its exit.

Thanks holeshot, sounds pretty easy.

So, I could use Race bodywork, but not a aftermarket windscreen.



And oh yes *knocks self on head* Its production doh!!, I don't know where I got superstock in my head from. Thanks for input.

I heard there is new rule book in works where classes will not be based on bikes but on riders performance

I think that to be a good idea


And I almost forgot, CAN A SLIPPER CLUTCH be used. it would be an add-on. added to a cbr600rr, so it is not like it came on a zx6rr- Thanks

 

[afmotorsports]

This is what I thought, It would be silly to increase gas and Air flow, and not increase its exit.

And I almost forgot, CAN A SLIPPER CLUTCH be used. it would be an add-on. added to a cbr600rr, so it is not like it came on a zx6rr- Thanks

I think maybe you missed the sarcasm in my post - while the stock exhaust may still restrict some performance gains, there are HUGE gains to be made with Production legal motor work. To give you an idea, the 929 I raced three years ago went from 126hp to 142hp with *some* motorwork (we could've easily gone over 150hp if we really leaned on it!) and using the aftermarket exhaust only bumped it up to 148 hp. So basically we gained 16hp even with motor work and the stock exhaust while the aftermarket exhaust was only worth 6hp.

And no, you can't ADD a slipper clutch if it didn't come on the stock motorcycle.

 

[niclope22]

Darn it, A slipper is worth a few seconds, or micro seconds(but it is worth something- at least). I had really hoped I could use one.

I won't make many changes to the engine. But I will see what I could do(faster without the add-ons), and what the mechanics think is possible.

 

[jtigert]

With the right rider, you can take an AMA superstock/supersport legal bike (minor motor work), slap a stock exhaust on it and podium any of the production classes.

 

[niclope22]

Thanks Jeff!
(makes sense, so the rider can get the podium, and the fluctuation between bike horsepower is not as big as the riders impact- of course this would always make sense, with no bike-in the equation. I am happy to see it can especially in the Production class.)

I have heard about your accomplisments

I feel lucky to say, Good luck in your future.

Glad to see you are doing well, and Hope to see you race someday -at the big level-.


-Nick