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Alternate to 2018 Street Triple 765 RS

The Tuono is a kickass bike indeed, its rider aids are excellent, and they can be had for deals... but it's in a whole 'nother world from the Street Triple RS—we're talking another 50+ HP on top of the Street Triple RS. It's a massive leap on top of the already substantial jump from a Ninja 650 to the RS.

Yes, a responsible new rider can ride either—not looking to debate that again—but I wouldn't point just any rider with two years' experience at a Tuono as their next step, and it's silly to act like those two bikes are similar or comparable.
 
Surj said:
The Tuono is a kickass bike indeed, its rider aids are excellent, and they can be had for deals... but it's in a whole 'nother world from the Street Triple RS—we're talking another 50+ HP on top of the Street Triple RS. It's a massive leap on top of the already substantial jump from a Ninja 650 to the RS.

Yes, a responsible new rider can ride either—not looking to debate that again—but I wouldn't point just any rider with two years' experience at a Tuono as their next step, and it's silly to act like those two bikes are similar or comparable.
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Yup - probably sound like a broken record at this point but i downgraded from a Tuono to a Street Triple R 675 and couldn't be happier.

Sure i miss that v4 power sometimes and the fueling, good god that fueling was butter and so were the brembos - but i never felt comfortable on that bike - it was bigger and heavier and just took a lot of precision to ride it. Street triple r is way more forgiving but still tactical as you want it to be at high speed and spirited riding in the tight stuff.

The biggest different is really out of corner drives - the Tuono gives you gobs of power in any gear, pretty much at any RPM (though it likes high revs significantly better) - the STR - if you had to scrub speed going into a corner and you're now at 4k looking to go full throttle out - you'll be reading a book waiting for the torque and power to kick in at 7k rpm.

Because of this - you have to shift a lot more - quickshifter adds a lot of fun to the bike and some convenience but man - i'd spend some coin to get an auto blipper when i'm in the twisties if i could lol
 
Probably good to go the STriple route if newish rider. Also, bought some more lane splitting stickers Surj. Good reminder on your signature line.
 
I test rode the Triple RS. Great bike! Really enjoyed taking it for a spin. Love the brakes/suspension on it, even for street riding. OTD, coming around $15.7k, a full $3.2k over MSPR. Maybe that's the way with Triumph pricing, especially for a high demand bike.

Looks like I cannot test ride any new Japanese bikes. I was told by a salesman that Japanese bikes cannot be test ridden in California from a dealer... did not realize that. Although I did get my Ninja 650 without test riding. This time, I won't buy one without test riding first so may have to wait for a demo day later in summer. Z900, XSR900, and maybe the upcoming CB1000R if I have enough patience to wait for its release, are a few Japanese I am now considering.

I sat on a S1000R. They didn't have a demo bike at that time so will have to go back for a demo ride. But at stand still, found it tall and heavy. The Triple RS is probably as tall but its so light it feels easier to manage. I may test ride it anyway, just to see how it is. Although, def won't buy new as its outside my budget with fees & taxes.

The 800 Dragster, I will have to see when I will get around to a dealer to sit/test ride as one is not super close by here in South Bay. California Speed Sports may be the closest one.

Thanks for all the feedback!
 
While Japanese bike dealers don't tend to do demos, it's up to the individual dealer.
 
Siris said:
I sat on a S1000R. They didn't have a demo bike at that time so will have to go back for a demo ride. But at stand still, found it tall and heavy. The Triple RS is probably as tall but its so light it feels easier to manage. I may test ride it anyway, just to see how it is. Although, def won't buy new as its outside my budget with fees & taxes.

The 800 Dragster, I will have to see when I will get around to a dealer to sit/test ride as one is not super close by here in South Bay. California Speed Sports may be the closest one.

Thanks for all the feedback!
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I rode the S1000r - it's weight is deceiving - it's a very manuverable bike - it feels more nimble than say a Tuono in my opinion - Tuono feels long in corners - so does the BMW but not to the same degree. The brakes and electronic suspension on the S1000r are great - though some complain that for agressive street riding - the electronic adjustments can't keep up with faster riders.

MV is a sweet bike - but keep in mind that part availability for that brand is extremely limited. My buddy had a part go on his Brutale and he had to wait 3 months for the part to make it here from Italy. Could be a unique case to him but limited dealer networks and part availability make it tough to be an only bike IMO.

OTD on the RS are insane right now - it's a fantastic bike but almost $16k is outrageous. Already a few popping up used in the $12k range - if you're patient - you may find a deal.
 
BMW does a done good job at making bikes nimble. Go push around a R1200GS in your driveway, then go ride it on your favorite twisty roads and you'll think you're riding a different bike.

I'd imagine the S1000 to be the same.
 
Siris said:
But at stand still, found it tall and heavy.
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Riding a bike in the showroom is often very different from riding it on public roads. My old Multistrada 1200S felt like a beast in the showroom. Out on the road, it's huge handlebar provided so much leverage I literally came close to driving it off the inside of the first few corners I went through! Conversely, showroom bikes usually lack any fuel or fluids and so often feel dramatically lighter than the do once topped off. As you've already noted: you don't want top skip the test-ride when buying a bike!
 
So I test rode a 2017 Tuono RR. I was a bit intimidated after the feedback I was getting but the bike is surprisingly easy to ride. Power is pretty linear and didn’t feel overwhelming, at least to 80 mph which happens super fast. The bike turns and leans very easily into corners and turns after riding a Ninja 650. Felt effortless and nimble almost.

The bike is pretty tall for me though. With my boots on, which limits how much I can bend/flex my feet, both my feet were on very edge of tip toes. I was focusing much more on coming to stops at lights than I should - may get used to it but I am told it can also be lowered both front and back. Not sure how much that’s going to take away, if at all, from it’s ride characteristic which I liked.

Great bike, but since I don’t know when/if I will ever track it, not sure if it’s a good direction to go as I will only use small fraction of its power on the street. Then again, people do ride super cars on the street too and never take them to track (lame attempt at justification ;)).
 
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I did a demo ride on the Street Triple R and it's a pretty good bike. It's got a lot of the electronics goodies. But it's a lotta $$$ if you ask me. MT-09 is just as good and less money. The Z900 is pretty good too also but I've never ridden one =/

The S1000R is pretty good been a little bit since I've ridden one that'd probably fit your price range but your getting in to super naked territory there. Might as well throw the Speed Triple, MT-10, and Tuono in there as well. I know Triumph revised the Speed Triple also.
 
Siris said:
So I test rode a 2017 Tuono RR. I was a bit intimidated after the feedback I was getting but the bike is surprisingly easy to ride.
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If you didn't see Jesus, you must not have opened the throttle wide enough :laughing
 
Siris said:
So I test rode a 2017 Tuono RR. I was a bit intimidated after the feedback I was getting but the bike is surprisingly easy to ride. Power is pretty linear and didn’t feel overwhelming, at least to 80 mph which happens super fast. The bike turns and leans very easily into corners and turns after riding a Ninja 650. Felt effortless and nimble almost.

The bike is pretty tall for me though. With my boots on, which limits how much I can bend/flex my feet, both my feet were on very edge of tip toes. I was focusing much more on coming to stops at lights than I should - may get used to it but I am told it can also be lowered both front and back. Not sure how much that’s going to take away, if at all, from it’s ride characteristic which I liked.

Great bike, but since I don’t know when/if I will ever track it, not sure if it’s a good direction to go as I will only use small fraction of its power on the street. Then again, people do ride super cars on the street too and never take them to track (lame attempt at justification ;)).
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Really comes down to what you want to use the bike for - many great all around bikes. I found the tuono gearing pretty tall for street riding - in the tight stuff i was anywhere in the 1,2,3 gear range - i dropped a tooth in the front sprocket to make it more of a 2,3 gear bike in the tight stuff but 2nd gear was pretty raw.

STR has the opposite problem - it can be a 2,3,4,5 gear bike through twisties lol and if you're coming out of a corner in 3k rpm - good luck waiting for the power to kick in at 6k. After almost a year of owning it - i'm learning every time to ride it better within the power band. The Tuono can make you lazy because there is just gobs of power every where in the damn power band.

It's not wrong to prefer either style - it all comes down to what you want to use it more for.
 
I had a thread on here back in Aug asking Speed Triple or Hypermotard. I had made a deposit on the Speed Triple but before committing I dropped by Ducati and test rode a HM SP. That test ride sealed the deal and I got my deposit back from Triumph.
Not saying both bikes were built for the same intended purpose but I just wanted a motorcycle for playing around on and almost any bike would have sufficed.
 
I’ve had my Street Triple RS for a year now. Love it. Worth every penny I paid for it
 
Moto Beck said:
...STR has the opposite problem - it can be a 2,3,4,5 gear bike through twisties lol and if you're coming out of a corner in 3k rpm - good luck waiting for the power to kick in at 6k...
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What are you doing? Exiting at 3K? Using 2-5 for the twisties? That just doesn't jive with my experience on STR. I generally find that all I need are two gears for most curvy back roads. I think you are babying your machine way to much. It's not a museum piece. Particularly if you are ever exiting at 3K. :teeth

Example:

  • GP Saratoga (Saratoga to 4 corners) only requires gears 2 and 3 but mostly 2.
  • Highway 9 to Boulder Creek is a 3-4 road but mostly 3rd gear except for a few straights.
  • Even Highway 35 is mostly a 3-4 gear road.

The only time I ever need gears 5-6 is for slab riding on the highway. What rev range are you targeting when at pace? The only time I can think that I have ever need all of the gears was on the track. Otherwise, I am struggling to think of a curvy road that had long enough of straights to require anything above 4th gear.

Unless of course you are constantly running at triple digits in which case you don't belong on the road (take it to the track).
 
I rode my friend's STR 675 (2010 model) and felt awesome everywhere. On twisty, I only use 2 gear (1,2) on Lucas Valley twisty section. The long curvy section from Nicasio to Pt Reyes Station, 2 or 3. Mostly quiet third gear on highway 1 back to Stinson except for the very twisty section. Last time I remember.

I truly want the STR 765RS and cannot wait for it. Patience pays well and I'll get a good deal.
 
'17 Tuono RR

Thanks for all the feedback! I ended up getting a 2017 Tuono RR early last week. What a great machine! Coming from a Ninja 650, I am experiencing great improvements in all fronts, from braking to suspension to chassis dynamics to of course the power. Very comfortable to ride and provides great confidence.

The two main negatives I will have to get used to coming from a Ninja 650 is the limited steering lock, which is not great for parking or U-turns on small roads, and no fuel gauge on a fuel hungry bike. But I knew about these before I purchased, so eyes wide open and all. Heat hasn't been as big a issue as I thought but we haven't hit peak temperatures here in the Bay Area either.

Overall it is a great bike, as most people have indicated. Also thanks to @East Bay Blake for his feedback on his personal experience with the bike over PM’s that helped me decide.
 

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Siris said:
Thanks for all the feedback! I ended up getting a 2017 Tuono RR early last week. What a great machine! Coming from a Ninja 650, I am experiencing great improvements in all fronts, from braking to suspension to chassis dynamics to of course the power. Very comfortable to ride and provides great confidence.

The two main negatives I will have to get used to coming from a Ninja 650 is the limited steering lock, which is not great for parking or U-turns on small roads, and no fuel gauge on a fuel hungry bike. But I knew about these before I purchased, so eyes wide open and all. Heat hasn't been as big a issue as I thought but we haven't hit peak temperatures here in the Bay Area either.

Overall it is a great bike, as most people have indicated.
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Sweet, congrats, been eyeing one myself.
 
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