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Anthony Bourdain Documentary; RoadRunner

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In the words of Quang Tran "I'm So Pumped for This"!!!

I am really excited to see this movie. I loved this guys shows. I know that he was snarky and could get annoying really fast, but despite of that- I still was a big fan.

The Director is catching some flack over the use of AI for his (AB's) voice in some scenes.
 
IDK, I also think it's pretty grotesque

a fake voice is going to be pretty freaky for many people. Meh feh

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apparently Mr Director there didn't care a jack, he said "We can have a documentary-ethics panel about it later" :rolleyes

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I wouldn't like hearing the voice and therefore, I am so pumped not to be watching it

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Agreed, interviewing his then-current GF should've been on the table (although we don't know whether she refused out of her own reasons)
 
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I loved that guy.

Not sure I can bring myself to watch to be honest.
 
GAJ said:
I loved that guy.

Not sure I can bring myself to watch to be honest.
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I too have ambivalent feelings about watching it as well. I'm a very emotional person, but I guess as long as no animals are killed- I won't get too weepy.
 
FYI, if anyone watches "reality tv" never trust a spoken word off camera. If you didn't see the lips say it, it's an edited together "frankencliip" of whatever the producers want a character to say. It's nothing new. I don't see a problem with finding a way to use AB's voice tpo say somethin he wrote.
 
lefty said:
I too have ambivalent feelings about watching it as well. I'm a very emotional person, but I guess as long as no animals are killed- I won't get too weepy.
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I imagine I'm going to cry several times throughout the film. I really admired Anthony Bourdain - and while several aspects of his life and lifestyle didn't appeal to me, I thoroughly enjoyed his love for exploring the world and I appreciated seeing what he saw through his eyes.

His struggles with depression are also very real to me. It's gonna be a rough watch.
 
Not a fan of the AI voice thing, can't put my finger on why other than it feels wrong.
 
lefty said:
I too have ambivalent feelings about watching it as well. I'm a very emotional person, but I guess as long as no animals are killed- I won't get too weepy.
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I'm all over the map on this guy. I truly enjoyed the meanderings he did but it always seemed like there was an absence of joy doing what most of us would love to be doing. For want of better description, it's the post-drug addict mentality. I sense it in Robert Downey Jr, too. It's like, any possible freshness and joy of life has been taken from them, they squandered it and even though they get to have money and do cool things, it's like it's never quite enough to bring a true smile to their face. And part of it seems like an NYC denizen thing, too, where they are sophisticated beyond appreciation or something. They might have the finest food ever prepared but in the end, they just have a cigarette after and gum up the palate with funk so who cares.....Kind of disposable, self-destructive mentality, I guess... And since I wasn't in NYC in the heyday of punk and Lou Reed and the nightclubs and the Ramones, I always feel a bit of the hayseed outsider as well.

I'm sure I'll watch it because I was fascinated by his shows and the life he carved out but yeah, there will always be the pain of knowing what happened as you watch. And I have to make sure and say, too, that the guy was a great story-teller and I loved those descriptions.
 
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me either. What am I going to get out of it? Might as well just watch some of his later work I missed. Or read one of his books again.
GAJ said:
Not sure I can bring myself to watch to be honest.
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I think at least part of what makes his story compelling to so many people is the mystery over how someone who appeared, on the outside, to have such a good life could be so tortured inside that he saw no option but to take his own life. Among other things, it's a stark realization it could happen to anyone, no matter how good things look on the outside.

He cultivated this feeling that we were along for the ride, and a lot of people lived vicariously through him. The feeling of closeness made the way he checked out that much harder to comprehend.

Sadly we'll never really know the answer, and as some commentators have said (NYT), we don't really have a right to know.

Anyway, I'll probably watch at some point but I'm expecting it to be pretty tough to get through.
 
TylerW said:
I imagine I'm going to cry several times throughout the film. I really admired Anthony Bourdain - and while several aspects of his life and lifestyle didn't appeal to me, I thoroughly enjoyed his love for exploring the world and I appreciated seeing what he saw through his eyes.

His struggles with depression are also very real to me. It's gonna be a rough watch.
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I 'may' cry. Like I said before, if there is an animal in it that get's hurt-- I WILL be a sobbing mess. I NEVER have seen any of those dumb dog movies where the dogs come back in another dogs body.
I did cry watching the JFK and Lincoln movies- I was just soo shocked that they died in the end,,,, never saw that coming!!! :teeth
Bay Arean said:
I'm all over the map on this guy. I truly enjoyed the meanderings he did but it always seemed like there was an absence of joy doing what most of us would love to be doing. For want of better description, it's the post-drug addict mentality. I sense it in Robert Downey Jr, too. It's like, any possible freshness and joy of life has been taken from them, they squandered it and even though they get to have money and do cool things, it's like it's never quite enough to bring a true smile to their face. And part of it seems like an NYC denizen thing, too, where they are sophisticated beyond appreciation or something. They might have the finest food ever prepared but in the end, they just have a cigarette after and gum up the palate with funk so who cares.....Kind of disposable, self-destructive mentality, I guess... And since I wasn't in NYC in the heyday of punk and Lou Reed and the nightclubs and the Ramones, I always feel a bit of the hayseed outsider as well.

I'm sure I'll watch it because I was fascinated by his shows and the life he carved out but yeah, there will always be the pain of knowing what happened as you watch. And I have to make sure and say, too, that the guy was a great story-teller and I loved those descriptions.
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You too have quite a poetic way with words yourself. :leghump
 
N4teTheGreat said:
Not a fan of the AI voice thing, can't put my finger on why other than it feels wrong.
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When you couple an AI voice print with a deepfake video, you get into some spooky territory of being able to fabricate the likeness of a person saying something that they didn't. I realize deepfake videos still have an uncanny valley quality to them, but I'm guessing they're only a year or two away from looking pretty authentic.

A person speaking on an unedited video is still one of the more truthful ways to convey a message and authenticate it back to the person speaking. This technology pitches that right out the window.
 
N4teTheGreat said:
Not a fan of the AI voice thing, can't put my finger on why other than it feels wrong.
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This film stopped being a documentary when the film makers added that part or anything else they made up. It's now a biography, whether they like it or not, and that designation allows them more license in telling the story.

I didn't watch Anthony Bourdain's show but from I've read about him, Bourdain was a compelling enough individual that fake dramatic elements should not be needed to allow the viewer to relate to him.
 
I watched the movie last night and you definitely walk away from it with the feeling that AB had a strong Suicide Ideation mentality.

You also feel that Asia cheating on him was what pushed him over the edge.
 
lefty said:
Lizard-

Thank you. I'm crying now. That is beautiful!!!! :thumbup

That makes me want to go home and hug my babies and it really makes me appreciate the fact that they are healthy.
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I love you, man.

PS - There’s only two times when a man may cry:

1. His dog dies.
2. He drops his sprotbile.
 
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