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Anti-Asian Hate Crimes
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1footdown
a little gimpy
watch Warrior and you can see some of the historical racist shit against early Asian immigrants. seems like not much has changed in 100-150 years.
Eldritch
is insensitive
Ed Lee probably would have disagreed with you.
1footdown
a little gimpy
until he got punched in the face buying broccoli and was told to go back to china.
JesasaurusRex
On a break
So I went to my first chinese restaurant since the pandemic struck. Front door locked, sliding window that barely opens to take your order. Wouldn't be as odd if the rest of the state wasn't wide the fuck open, and for a while mind you. Didn't bother asking them why, one can assume with a relatively high probability of getting it right I think. People suck.
1footdown
a little gimpy
jeez, the first chinese restaurant in a year?
JesasaurusRex
On a break
not really a fan
Eldritch
is insensitive
100-150 years ago, Chinese people were straight up getting lynched and the Government was taking their land away from them with redlining. You sound like those idiots who say conditions haven't improved for black people since slavery ended.
Just because there is still work to do does not mean there has been no progress.
Climber
Well-known member
We'll never know how many Chinese workers died building the Transcontinental Railroad.100-150 years ago, Chinese people were straight up getting lynched and the Government was taking their land away from them with redlining. You sound like those idiots who say conditions haven't improved for black people since slavery ended.
Just because there is still work to do does not mean there has been no progress.
Agreed on things being better, it's like many things, the final 15% takes 85% of the time.
100-150 years ago, Chinese people were straight up getting lynched and the Government was taking their land away from them with redlining. You sound like those idiots who say conditions haven't improved for black people since slavery ended.
Just because there is still work to do does not mean there has been no progress.
I wish humans were better at maintaining perspective. There is obviously room for improvement, but we have come a LONG way in combating racism. I think we've gone overboard in some respects (______-only rooms/dorms at universities, shouting down of those perceived to be insufficiently woke, etc. etc. etc.).
1footdown
a little gimpy
You sound like those idiots who say conditions haven't improved for black people since slavery ended.
Just because there is still work to do does not mean there has been no progress.
Improved. After how many years and generations and Constitutional amendments. I'm so fucking happy that i didn't get lynched last night. What does it take for equality?
Climber
Well-known member
It probably takes about 4-5 generations from full blown racism for it to get diluted enough that the kids don't get fully indoctrinated while growing up.
Blankpage
alien
I know someone who got their covid vaccine yesterday. Said there was a lard ass older white dude in line ahead. When dude saw hottie Asian chick was giving the shots he asked if there was anyone else that could give it to him as he didn’t want getting a shot from an Asian. Some people are just toxic.
GAJ
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TylerW
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100-150 years ago, Chinese people were straight up getting lynched and the Government was taking their land away from them with redlining. You sound like those idiots who say conditions haven't improved for black people since slavery ended.
Just because there is still work to do does not mean there has been no progress.
I have a hard time believing that there's anyone who genuinely believes that there's been no improvement. But there's plenty of people who believe that because of the improvements that have been made, we're okay to stop where we are. And there's plenty of people who believe that because things have improved, they refuse to challenge themselves to discover ways that they still propagate racial prejudices subconsciously. And there's plenty of people who realize that there's still a lot of work to be done, and will drag their feet on it, because that work will be very difficult, and in many cases won't improve their lives. In some ways, that work will make their lives worse.
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Eldritch
is insensitive
That is a good question, I think the reality is that there is never equality. We are just not all created equal and life isn't fair. Some people are just born smarter, stronger, better looking,etc. Simply put, Idris Elba got a lot of edge up on other people with similar backgrounds, because he won a genetic lottery and was lucky enough to have the kind of family that allowed him to better realize his own potential. Even with all his gifts, with a different family, he might have grown up to be a convict instead of an intertantional star.
So you have to take "equality" out as a point in time. It isn't a switch that gets flipped an now we are finally there so we can all relax, mission accomplished. Humans are fucking horrible, violent, selfish, nasty, and brutish animals. We're never going to be, "there." Better is to remember that as a species and as a civilization, we are a, "work in progress."
We need to know about the past so we can look at it with realistic perspective, see what we can learn, and actively try to do be and be better tomorrow. Xenophobia is part of our nature it is not a nurture trait, so it will always be a thing that communities and cultures have to struggle with although the boundaries that define the outside will always be dynamic.
If you are doing everything you can to live and be the change you want to see in the world, then you are doing your part. Maybe if you see too many people who are not as able as you to be that, it would help to try and help show them the way?
I don't know dude, that is very much what 1foot was just saying and at the BLM rallies I literally see people SCREAMING that shit at the top of their lungs, as if Jim Crow never ended. I remember seeing an interview with John Lewis about a year or so before he died where he was talking about how stupid that was, and about what he had went though during the marches back in the day.
I think it comes more from people speaking on an emotional level about an issue rather than a rational and analytical one, which is of course always a garbage position to speak from.
Progress is damaged in many ways and on many sides by the politicization of the issues at hand unfortunately, and I don't see any easy way past it. The conversation about a more just society just doesn't exist on any significant scale in this country without the people behind it having an ulterior motive, an agenda steeped in business, power, and control so that makes it hard for opposing views on either side to come to trust.
I just wish it were easier to have a sincere and transparent public dialogue about these sorts of things in the honest shared interest of a better society, but it seems like our nation is so strangled by attached strings that it might never be able to happen.
Mike95060
Work In Progress
Wow. That comes across as a deeply cynical statement. One I do not agree with. Was that your intent? Do you really believe that?
TylerW
Well-known member
If you paid attention to 1footdown's post, they're saying exactly the same thing that I did. Their post inspired mine. As to your Idris Elba example, sure he's an outstanding man, but his fame and success is still very much determined by richer, paler men.
You consistently belittle emotions as a factor in decision making. Emotions are one of the significant advantages that our species has over others. It is a profoundly stupid argument and pointless because no sane human being is capable of having a conversation without their emotions being involved.
The rest of your post is just a bunch of handwringing that serves as a fantastic example of everrything in my post, so thanks for that?
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nakedape
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Emotional reasoning is a crucial evolutionary strategy. Modern life doesn’t and shouldn’t do away with it. Khaneman has a brilliant take on the how and why of cognition which he uses to bolster the theories of behavioral economics.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PirFrDVRBo4
Mike95060
Work In Progress
You can make fun of me for it but my gut says there is probably a place for empathy in policy making. yada, yada, yada emotions are bad m-kay.....
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