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BART Mob robbery 2.0: Great America this time

They can't arrest the children if they're minorities because it might give society the impression minorities can also be criminals.
 
Did anybody stand up to them? You'd think in that crowd there would have to be at least a few guys who realize this is a chance to grab something solid and get some of that repressed anger out and open some douchebag's skull. Wait until they start to leave and pick of a few of the stragglers.
 
No matter how angry, you'd have to be supremely confident in your abilities, size, etc to take on a mob unarmed. Even if it's only stragglers, they have a numerical advantage. Now, if you were in the park with a group of buddies, and there's a dozen of you, by all means go nuts. Still wouldn't recommend it though. Hell, even if I were carrying and was confronted by a mob, I'd do my damnedest best to not draw attention to myself unless forced to. I'm not gonna go chase / hunt someone down.

I'd be willing to bet they'd scatter as soon as one of them got shot though. It's generally the biggest cowards who gain confidence from mob attacks like that.
 
Great America better step up their security or they will face a huge loss of business.

Really hope we hear about more arrests.

I agree with mercurial. Info is out there to be had. At least some.
 
Been ages since I've been to an amusement park, but last time I went, it was GHETTO AS FUCK.

So, this doesn't entirely shock me.
 
aminalmutha said:
Been ages since I've been to an amusement park, but last time I went, it was GHETTO AS FUCK.

So, this doesn't entirely shock me.
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This ^^
I'm glad my kids are grown.
 
budman said:
One arrest..??. :wtf

Hopefully lots of video so they can get the scumbags... unless they were in costumes. That is screwed up.
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So I last went to this event like 4 years ago. If I recall correctly, grown size people were not allowed in costume. It is not really a little kids type event, more for teens and the amusement park crowd.

Being short staffed could have been a problem. When I was there, it was a total shit show. Took an hour to get into the parking lot from the street outside. You couldn't get a beer to save your life. Everything was wildly understaffed and they seemed grossly underprepared to be open later than normal hours.

Extremely poorly managed event. The noise situation is a disaster with the locals too. They aren't allowed to run the Park rides past 10pm, but they don't tell you that when they advertise the event open till 12am. They do run a handful of haunted house deals, and that is really all you can do for the last 2 hours. The whole thing is an utter embarrassment.

Seems like a prime situation for a barbarian horde to pillage though.
 
The panic mode on phones, just what is not needed.

People already bury their heads in their phones, many can't actually function without them, some walk into traffic and get killed because the phone is/was their existence.

Less phone time and more being aware of your surroundings. Now a panic mode on a phone does what other than to draw people further into the realm that a phone is going to save them? Instead, learn how to defend yourself, how to react to threats, how to avoid threats and become active in you own personal safety and security instead of avoiding it and hoping a phone, of all things, is an answer. One ringy dingy, two ringy dingy...
 
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Schnellbandit said:
The panic mode on phones, just what is not needed.

People already bury their heads in their phones, many can't actually function without them, some walk into traffic and get killed because the phone is/was their existence.

Less phone time and more being aware of your surroundings. Now a panic mode on a phone does what other than to draw people further into the realm that a phone is going to save them? Instead, learn how to defend yourself, how to react to threats, how to avoid threats and become active in you own personal safety and security instead of avoiding it and hoping a phone, of all things, is an answer. One ringy dingy, two ringy dingy...
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I think you misunderstood what steelfanatic was talking about when he mentioned panic mode on a phone.
 
UDRider said:
I think you misunderstood what steelfanatic was talking about when he mentioned panic mode on a phone.
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Here is what I was talking about:

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Honestly this is why I think phone manufacturers now need to create a "panic" mode on their phones.

I don't mind giving up my phone to keep the peace, but I'm not giving up everything thats on my phone or accessible via my phone. I want it to go into "panic" mode if I hold the home or any other button in for longer than 30 seconds. "

I took that to mean someone holds the home (now panic button) for 30/seconds to dump/protect their data so that giving up the phone in a robbery doesn't also mean giving up all the private data. Did I read that correctly?

To which I say, putting your life into a phone to the point you need a panic mode that you'll remember in a panic seems rather off. First, IOS and Android have pattern locks which the usual pukes can't defeat. Then, both systems also allow you to encrypt the data. So learning and taking an active role in personal safety and security with respect to that private data just means using what every phone has already.

Taking an active role in personal safety and security can help people avoid getting caught up in situations in the first place. Even so called spontaneous incidents have telltale signs, if you look up and around instead of down into a phone so often.
 
Schnellbandit said:
Here is what I was talking about:

"
Honestly this is why I think phone manufacturers now need to create a "panic" mode on their phones.

I don't mind giving up my phone to keep the peace, but I'm not giving up everything thats on my phone or accessible via my phone. I want it to go into "panic" mode if I hold the home or any other button in for longer than 30 seconds. "

I took that to mean someone holds the home (now panic button) for 30/seconds to dump/protect their data so that giving up the phone in a robbery doesn't also mean giving up all the private data. Did I read that correctly?

To which I say, putting your life into a phone to the point you need a panic mode that you'll remember in a panic seems rather off. First, IOS and Android have pattern locks which the usual pukes can't defeat. Then, both systems also allow you to encrypt the data. So learning and taking an active role in personal safety and security with respect to that private data just means using what every phone has already.

Taking an active role in personal safety and security can help people avoid getting caught up in situations in the first place. Even so called spontaneous incidents have telltale signs, if you look up and around instead of down into a phone so often.
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Now you did. Your original post made it sound like you were talking about something else.
 
UDRider said:
That's what a pin and encrypting storage is for?
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Agree that's one step and most people use fingerprint. But if a mob says "give me your phone unlocked or I will taze you bro" doesn't really matter that you locked it.

My point in a panic-feature would be:
Wipes data
Enables GPS in "quiet mode" for tracking
On startup requires multi-factor authentication with some sort of external validation maybe through phone provider (i.e. AT&T or Verizon)

Then you can hand your phone over and say "Battery is dead bro, but you are free to have it"

Make the phone have zero value if stolen. If they can't resell them anywhere because it's useless they won't have any incentive to steal it.

The panic mode on phones, just what is not needed.

People already bury their heads in their phones, many can't actually function without them, some walk into traffic and get killed because the phone is/was their existence.

Less phone time and more being aware of your surroundings. Now a panic mode on a phone does what other than to draw people further into the realm that a phone is going to save them? Instead, learn how to defend yourself, how to react to threats, how to avoid threats and become active in you own personal safety and security instead of avoiding it and hoping a phone, of all things, is an answer. One ringy dingy, two ringy dingy...
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I don't know what your posts have to do with mine. If I only ever use the phone while i am sitting on the toilet in my own home with my door locked doesn't prevent me from valuing what is on it. So not sure how you are connecting value to usability.
 
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SteelerFanatic said:
My point in a panic-feature would be:
Wipes data
Enables GPS in "quiet mode" for tracking
On startup requires multi-factor authentication with some sort of external validation maybe through phone provider (i.e. AT&T or Verizon)
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Isn't this pretty much the process in every other country?
 
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