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Boot recommendations: dual sportish, all day comfortable

Daytonaas

^ I had Daytonas and they were the most comfortable of any boots I ever owned.

Id have to say that as well. but i also have a problem with any boot that goes up the calves.
Popeye calves make full length boots uncomfortable.
 
Hey Dan, I see that you got your fave boots, but I'm still gonna opine.

I've owned Daytona Ladystars, Gaerne GX-1's, Aerostich Combat Tourers, and now Forma Adventures.

Daytonas: Beautifully made, solidly waterproof, not remotely dual sporty. Protection: reinforced shin plate (but they are only mid-shin height), thin plastic reinforcement on the inside of the ankle. No torsion control. Grand street boots, and I wore them on my cross-country trip. All-day comfy.

Gaerne GX-1s: They're a non-waterproof dirtbike boot, with supposed torsion control as well as shin, ankle and foot reinforcement. However, mine failed me radically after losing a wheelie, and the footpeg of my DR350 punched the Gaerne's and destroyed my foot right through them. I'll avoid Gaernes in the future.

Aerostich Combat Tourers (made by Sidi): Extremely well-made boots but very tough to break in. I bought them used, wore them extensively, poured warm water into them and wore them around all day (a popular break-in technique for these) and they were still barely broken in. I did wear them to Alaska and back, and they performed admirably--and then they were finally broken in. They do require a lace pull as well as buckling to get on. They're resolable--I had a local cobbler put on Vibram soles for the AK trip. However this means that the stitch holes around the foot are too large to be waterproof--I tried to seal them with shoe seal to no avail. Ended up wearing waterproof socks on rainy days. Nota Bene: they have no torsion control, and no malleolus reinforcement. The shin is padded. There are many tales on ADVrider of folks busting an ankle on gravel or dirt in these; I'd classify them as a butch-looking street boot or mild dual-sport boot. Adventure boot technology has surpassed these old-schoolers a bit, I'd say.

Forma Adventures: After smashing my foot, I desperately needed boots that were comfy and wide enough to fit my lumpy metatarsals. These did the trick; I went into Scuderia, bought the Formas, swapped out the insoles for Superfeets, and took off on a 10-day trip up the Oregon Coast the next day. It was exactly the sort of thing that you're not supposed to do, but worked out great in terms of comfort. They remain quite waterproof, and comfy. Not resolable as they have a shaped, contemporary hiking-boot style sole. Like the Aerostich boots, these look butch and off-roady (tall, reinforced shin, 3-buckle closure) but do not have true torsion control. I'd wear them for mellow gravel-road stuff but not gnarlier dirt. They have malleolus reinforcement, plastic cups on both the inside and outside of the ankle, and shifter pads on the foot.

A note on Forma's customer service: Termagant was so impressed with these that she bought a pair as well...but hers leaked on a rainy overnight tour. I contacted Forma, told them the problem, and shipped her boots back for inspection. Couple of weeks later, they shipped her a completely new pair. I was impressed--way to stand by your product, Forma!
 
Hey Dan, I see that you got your fave boots, but I'm still gonna opine.

Awesome info, thanks!

I'll reiterate my rec for backpacking boots. They pretty much universally have more ankle support and control than any motorcycle boots short of high-end MX and roadracing boots. Their only downsides that I see are lacing (which is somewhat responsible for that ankle support) and shin protection.
 
ever thought of wearing something like this with the hiking boots ?

http://www.amazon.com/Medi-M-Step-Ankle-Brace-Rehabilitation/dp/B00OBCAPE4

I haven't. I guess if I were that concerned I'd be in my MX boots (A* Tech 8) or track boots (Puma 1000 V3). My backpacking boots already have more ankle support than my old Alpinestars SMXs or my Icon Elsinores. That said, doubling up seems like a good setup for something that really protects your ankles and can also handle the miles of hoofing it.
 
All day comfort, or any other priority... Depends on the individual.
Different people are built differently.

Different brands of boots are built differently.

Go shopping, try them on. Buy from the shop that stocks what you want to buy.
 
I like Daytonas and cobbler

Mmm cobbler.

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In 20 years I've had my Daytona roadstars resoled twice, the gortex version only once. The last cobbler was near SFO for $125, he actually had cycle soles. The Transtars are just about broke in and the other pair are super sporty so not much wear.
 
I put in a rec for these:

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/tcx-infinity-evo-gore-tex-boots

I have the Oxtar version of these before TCX and Oxtar merged. Had them for five years now of year round daily commuting and I often forget I have them on still at work, They are that comfortable. Now protection wise, they don't have torsion control or other fancy stuff but there's always a compromise. Even though I have quite a few other riding boots these are the ones I reach for.
 
I put in a rec for these:

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/tcx-infinity-evo-gore-tex-boots

I have the Oxtar version of these before TCX and Oxtar merged. Had them for five years now of year round daily commuting and I often forget I have them on still at work, They are that comfortable. Now protection wise, they don't have torsion control or other fancy stuff but there's always a compromise. Even though I have quite a few other riding boots these are the ones I reach for.

I've read lots of great things about TCX boots. The UK magazine, Ride often gives them high marks. I'm going to be needing torsion control in my next boot because the fracture I'm recovering from now is the result of a torsion event. :( I totally get the compromise thing, but my personal criteria have changed.
 
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