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Car dealerships

MC BumSlap

MC BumSlap

Big Belly Bum Scud
Joined
Jul 8, 2008
Location
Burnistoun
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Faux Bonneville
Name
J
Car dealerships should only exist as demo centers and repair centers. Sell used cars for additional revenue (financing, warranties, etc as well).
There is absolutely no f*cking reason why we cannot just order factory direct (Tesla, Rivian, Lucid, etc). Yeah, I know franchise laws exist. But shits just antiquated.

This picture below just pisses me the fuck off. Pure greed. I don't want to put the dealer on complete blast so I removed any identifying marks.

Glad I went slightly used and through CarMax. Tired of haggling with car dealers.

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They're really proud of their floor mats too

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Good Lord I didn't even see the other dealer added charges. Disgusting.

Mandatory PPF tint CO2 and care also.

Eff that place
 
Why is the vin and whatever else hidden...?
 
Nitrogen? For the tires? LOL

I guess the only justifiable price would be the PPF? Depending if the whole care was covered? Everything else you could get for like a 1/10 of what they are charging plus their Dealer Markup
 
ucmgrad said:
Nitrogen? For the tires? LOL

I guess the only justifiable price would be the PPF? Depending if the whole care was covered? Everything else you could get for like a 1/10 of what they are charging plus their Dealer Markup
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My friend bought a used 911 and has spent 48 hours trying to remove the cracking PPF which was only on the front part of the hood, front bumper and mirrors.

Those sort of add ons are why we ditched Marin Mazda for Vallejo Mazda on my friend's recent CX30 purchase.
 
I currently have PPF on my RSX which is the same, basically a clear bra which covers the bumper, side mirrors, front half of the hood. I dread the day I have to strip that off to replace it.
 
ucmgrad said:
I currently have PPF on my RSX which is the same, basically a clear bra which covers the bumper, side mirrors, front half of the hood. I dread the day I have to strip that off to replace it.
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Owned an RSX S then a TSX and the latter I drove to Miami in 2020 to five to my brother; it was 13 years old and had 100k miles.

Didn't have PPF and there were hardly any areas with "hits" on them in those areas and the ones that were there were about the size of a pencil point.
 
bought my 2002 Tacoma from Berkeley Toyota in 2006, not a great deal but 19 years later a great truck at a decent price. Know what you want, research it and deal straight.
 
It’s not just the dealership, it’s the people who are willing to pay the dealer markup too. Fuck’em both! 🖕
 
A couple years ago when we were shopping to replace my little truck, one of the stops was the local Chevy/Gmc dealer, because the prices i'd seen online seemed like the ballpark we were looking for. in person, though...surprise, $8-15k market adjustments on the Sierra, Tahoe/Suburban, and Yukon that weren't mentioned online, and they weren't budging on. Across the street at Toyota it was $15-20k on the Tundra and Sequoia, and they only had ONE Tundra in stock, and NO Sequoias.

Finally ended up with a 4wd Ram at a price we could stomach, and 0%.

Longer ago when were shopping for better half's car, so she could hand off her 3 year old Civic to her daughter, which was probably 6 months after the Type R were hitting the floors. We'd previously shopped the Civic SI, GTI, and BRZ/FR-S/86 before buying the existing Civic, and she was pretty much settled on the SI, as the R's were still carrying $20k+ markups. Back to the dealer we bought the other Civic from, only to find they were ALSO marking up the SI's by $5k, and the "Sport" hatchbacks ($1500-2k) as well...it sounded like they were trying to shift some of the demand from the R to the SI (still turbo, manual, and limited slip), and the non manual inclined people interested in the SI to the Sport, as the Sport could be had with an automatic. Ended up getting the SI from a different dealer with no markup, basically at MSRP.
 
i bought a used VW. spent hours dealing with the finance department even though i paid cash. they had my address and wanted the address of the house i was considering purchasing. i was pissed. i’m paying cash. why am i in your office! fuck off. :x
 
MC BumSlap said:
Car dealerships should only exist as demo centers and repair centers. Sell used cars for additional revenue (financing, warranties, etc as well).
There is absolutely no f*cking reason why we cannot just order factory direct (Tesla, Rivian, Lucid, etc). Yeah, I know franchise laws exist. But shits just antiquated.
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Ok then, as BARF’s resident car dealership advocate, I’d like you to see it from our side of the fence. And we’ll just use your Civic Type-R there as an example. Let’s say you run that store. You get allocated maybe two Type-Rs for the whole year. Meanwhile you sell a couple hundred garden variety Civics that every Tom, Dick, and Harry comes in and grinds you to sell for $500 below invoice. And since every other Honda dealer around is doing those deals, you have no choice but to whore the car out also. Sure there’s holdback and backend money, but after paying the commission and all the other expenses, you’re lucky to net a couple hundred bucks per car if anything. Hopefully some profit happened with some add ons in the F&I office.

So now you get the basic economic law of supply and demand on your side and you have a highly coveted Type-R come in. Now remember, your’re only going to get maybe a couple of these a year. You still going to sell at msrp, or will you jump at the chance to take $16k in profit (which that is after the ADM and other add on crap) after having gone through all the headache of selling a hundred Civics before it for barely enough money to keep the lights on?


You all can’t have it both ways. When times are tough or we’ve got too much inventory, you get to watch us take a bath and sell vehicles far below the MSRP. I don’t see anyone complaining about that. So when we get the new hyped up gotta have it whatever car, you can’t fault us for pricing what the market will bear. You want to do away with the dealer model and just factory order everything, then you can wait four years on a wait list to get your Type-R at sticker, and also enjoy waiting a couple months to buy a regular Civic also at sticker. But if you just gotta have that Type-R right now while it’s still the talk of the town, then you can pay $15k over buying one on the secondary market. Supply and demand.
 
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