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carpool question

ch47dmechanic said:
There's always signs below the carpool lane sign explaining it. It says something to the effect of "Autos with 2 seats and pickups with 2 passengers okay."
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they all used to have 'motorcyles ok' on the bottom too.

none of them do anymore

pretty sure we can still use the carpool lane as a solo rider irregardless
 
My $8 hybrid sticker lets me drive my 5-seater in the HOV lane. Though if I am caging that means my dog is with me so I am legal for the 2 person carpools. Also schizophrenics with handicapped placards or notes from their doctors can, depending on # of personalities, use the 2- or 3-person HOV lane.
 
i think the clean acsess stickers are BS!

it just lets allt he tree huggin hippies drive in carpool..

while driving solo
 
Starshooter10 said:
i think the clean acsess stickers are BS!

it just lets allt he tree huggin hippies drive in carpool..

while driving solo
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The funny thing is that all the hype about Hybrids goes right out the window on the freeway where they're running on the gas engine just like everyone else does. :thumbdown
 
yeap..

if they really wanted to save the earth they would drive a honda elite
 
ch47dmechanic said:
The funny thing is that all the hype about Hybrids goes right out the window on the freeway where they're running on the gas engine just like everyone else does. :thumbdown
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Not quite. I get 60 mpg at 60 mph with my little 1300cc I4. Around town I am getting 35 mpg. My hybrid is less efficient when using the electric motor. That is because it kicks in when the gas engine is straining and inefficient.

I don't like the stickers either. If it is a HOV lane, restrict it to HOVs. But for $8 I am not going to pass up a free ride in the carpool lane if they say I can.
 
I wasn't talking about mileage, I was referring to the emissions. A hybrid spits exhaust fumes just like everyone else on the freeway.
 
they spit fumes alright...

and i thought they got better MPG IN TOWN

something about braking recharging battery ect

and dosn't the freeway mean it's locked on gas with that little CVT?
 
And no just because your seats are flipped up on your extended cab pickup doesn't qualify you as a two seater pickup.

I see this one all the time.
 
ch47dmechanic said:
The funny thing is that all the hype about Hybrids goes right out the window on the freeway where they're running on the gas engine just like everyone else does. :thumbdown
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They're not necessarily running the gas engine on the freeway. It's entirely possible to run electric-only on the freeway. It depends on the conditions, and acceleration (or lack thereof).

Then again, exactly the same is true when in town. In fact, a hybrid's more likely to use the gas engine more in town, due to stop-and-go driving. Hence the lower MPG rating for in-town driving compared to highway driving.

Yes, they emit exhaust. They just emit less. That's why they're rated PZEV (Partial Zero-Emmisions Vehicle): They emit exhaust when the gas engine's running.


My hybrid gets better mileage than my I4, but only because I typically only drive my hybrid on the freeway, in the slow lane, to and from work (yes, I have a HOV sticker, but I only use it when traffic's at a standstill in the other lanes, and the HOV lane is moving slowly).
 
sifr said:
In fact, a hybrid's more likely to use the gas engine more in town, due to stop-and-go driving. Hence the lower MPG rating for in-town driving compared to highway driving.
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I believe you have this one backwards. The EPA estimate for the Prius is something like 48 city, 45 highway. They are more efficient in around-town driving than they are on the highway. How long do you think the batteries would last in highway driving before the engine had to start up and recharge them? Probably not very long.
 
OldFatGuy said:
I believe you have this one backwards. The EPA estimate for the Prius is something like 48 city, 45 highway. They are more efficient in around-town driving than they are on the highway. How long do you think the batteries would last in highway driving before the engine had to start up and recharge them? Probably not very long.
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Yeah, they redid the EPA ratings because they changed the testing methods.

However, the one sitting in my garage right now shows 61.2 MPG on the current tank, which I'm over 250 miles into already.

And, my personal experience (based on how I drive) shows that the gas engine runs more when I drive in town than when I commute on the highway. And it's reflected by the MPG I achieve.


Remember that how often the gas engine comes on is largely a function of the driver, and not the vehicle.


...but enough thread hijacking. We don't need yet another thread turning into a hybrid debate. :teeth
 
sifr said:
They're not necessarily running the gas engine on the freeway. It's entirely possible to run electric-only on the freeway. It depends on the conditions, and acceleration (or lack thereof).

Then again, exactly the same is true when in town. In fact, a hybrid's more likely to use the gas engine more in town, due to stop-and-go driving. Hence the lower MPG rating for in-town driving compared to highway driving.

Yes, they emit exhaust. They just emit less. That's why they're rated PZEV (Partial Zero-Emmisions Vehicle): They emit exhaust when the gas engine's running.


My hybrid gets better mileage than my I4, but only because I typically only drive my hybrid on the freeway, in the slow lane, to and from work (yes, I have a HOV sticker, but I only use it when traffic's at a standstill in the other lanes, and the HOV lane is moving slowly).
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Actually, on my commute those Prius's are always hogging up the carpool lane going too slow. :thumbup

Also, my GTI is a PZEV car. That's not saying much for the Prius considering my car is 100% engine with no electric motor. :rolleyes
 
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