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Circumcision. Is it necessary?

Should I circumsize my child?

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I went through this with my family. I'm Jewish (the wife is not), and I wanted my son circumcised. I think it's a gift to have a religious/cultural identity, and the briss is I was going to do the whole mohel thing, but opted out of that when I realized my immediate family didn't seem to care that much--and my mother (who says she had me circumcised because that's "just what you did") was actively opposed!

Anyway, I did a literature review and determined that there's no real good argument for or against either way, and I wanted my son to have some Jewish identity, so why the hell not?

I also rankled against the anti-circumcision arguments. They often have an anti-Jewish tinge to them, and compare circumcision to female genital mutilation (a relatively recent custom, by the way), which is both insulting and absurd (absulting? Insurd?) at the same time. Some studies say it's better health-wise, some say it reduces feeling, but there's just nothing that makes it a big deal. Then this asshole printed these abhorently racist comics:http://www.foreskinman.com/monstermohel.htm

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and that made the choice easy. I wish I had thought of mailing him a bucket o' foreskins.

In the end, I said the prayers myself as the Kaiser doctor performed the procedure. It was really no big deal. There was little blood, little crying or discomfort on baby Isaac's part, and the flap of skin was smaller than a fingernail clipping. There have been no issues at all. He has no memory of it, will have no problems from it, and will have a healthy and normal sex life.

So the answer of should you do it: yes, if you want to, no if it makes you at all uncomfortable or will cause an issue with your family.
 
Making fun of Judaism is not racist. Now, where did I leave my bucket of foreskins...
 
No. I dont have sex outside of a secure relationship.

What if your kid gets drunk at a party and makes a bad decision. Would you want the chances higher or lower that they walk away with a STD?
 
byke said:
Making fun of Judaism is not racist. Now, where did I leave my bucket of foreskins...
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Making fun of Judaism most certainly is racist, as is the whole "Judaism is a religion, not a race" argument itself. In any case, there's nothing funny about a caricature of a rabbi that resembles Nazi-era propaganda. There are no jokes about Jews in the comic book. It is not gentle Seinfeld-type Jewish humor. It is not satire.

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Hmmm...yes, I can see the tastelessness in the first, but not really the second. Anyway, religion and race are two different things unless they can somehow remain 100% exclusive. Being that Jews accept people into Judaism from anywhere in the world, they simply cannot be mutually exclusive. However, I do not expect logic to prevail when discussing religion.
 
byke said:
Hmmm...yes, I can see the tastelessness in the first, but not really the second. Anyway, religion and race are two different things unless they can somehow remain 100% exclusive. Being that Jews accept people into Judaism from anywhere in the world, they simply cannot be mutually exclusive. However, I do not expect logic to prevail when discussing religion.
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:wtf? Portraying a stereotypical Jew as a serpent tormenting humanity isn't tasteless? Ok.

Religon and race may be two different ideas, but for the Jewish people they are not. And for the people that torment and persecute Jews, be they Nazis, Stalinists or Arab, they also are not. I'm sure many thousands of Jews died in the gas chambers who were never Bar Mitzvahed, never when to shul, didn't keep Kosher and didn't know a single prayer. So long as a single grandparent was Jewish, they were sent to die.

How isn't that racist?
 
teg916 said:
That's his choice. Of course I want him to have a lower chance, but not if it means cutting a peice of him off. If he feels that he needs his foreskin removed he can make that choice when he is older.

Just because you can't remember the pain when you are a baby doesn't mean you don't feel it. Besides he pain there can be complications. Sure the chances of complications are small, but so are the chances of getting saved from an STD.
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^^^ I think that his part of the argument is valid and I'm guessing that his reply would be something like "if there were something very simple and easy you could do to minimize such a severe consequence for a mistake, why wouldn't you do it?". Kind of like 'future insurance'. Don't get me wrong, I don't support it, just mentioning that I think that's one of the valid points for doing it (assuming the studies previously posted aren't misleading by omitting important info).
 
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Gabe said:
:wtf? Portraying a stereotypical Jew as a serpent tormenting humanity isn't tasteless? Ok.

Religon and race may be two different ideas, but for the Jewish people they are not. And for the people that torment and persecute Jews, be they Nazis, Stalinists or Arab, they also are not. I'm sure many thousands of Jews died in the gas chambers who were never Bar Mitzvahed, never when to shul, didn't keep Kosher and didn't know a single prayer. So long as a single grandparent was Jewish, they were sent to die.

How isn't that racist?
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See, you're so focused on your points that you weren't able to read what I wrote. I'd be happy to chat via pm if you'd like to.
 
Have him trimmed with Pinking shears, for the Frilly Dilly effect,
The girls, will love it...and he will thank you for that.
 
Oceansides said:
No. I dont have sex outside of a secure relationship.

What if your kid gets drunk at a party and makes a bad decision. Would you want the chances higher or lower that they walk away with a STD?
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One can easily have sex outside of a secure relationship if their SO is not on the same page.....

If you lop off the whole thing you'll never have to worry.

I'm aware as a parent I need to make choices for the sake of my kid irregardless of what he wants but as far as hacking a chunk of his most sensitive bits off, that shit is up to him when he's older.
 
mike23w said:
the most important aspect is if you're uncut you've greatly reduced your chance of being a major porn star.
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You either don't watch a lot of porn or you don't know the difference between a scarred dick and unscarred dick.

It can be hard to tell when fully erect. I will give you a clue though. Most of the largest cocks in porn are unscarred. Maybe pruning that skin as a baby restricts growth. Many doctors seems to think so:
http://www.glorialemay.com/blog/?p=350

As for getting more diseases, yeah right. Watch the video MsIncredible posted. It shoots a big hole in that theory. The studies had an agenda and were flawed big time. You are going to believe a bullshit study done in Africa? I have a bridge for sale. :laughing

Don't want a disease? Don't stick your dick in a diseased person, or at least wrap it up if there is any question.

Sorry some of you guys were mutilated as children. Your cocks will never get to feel the pleasure my cock feels. Why someone would want to prune the best pleasure giving part of his body is insane to me. Its like sewing on two rubbers you can never ever take off. Worse part is, you guys don't even know what you are missing out on. Its a shame really. You are like a girl with half a clit.
 
Horse said:
You either don't watch a lot of porn or you don't know the difference between a scarred dick and unscarred dick.

It can be hard to tell when fully erect. I will give you a clue though. Most of the largest cocks in porn are unscarred. Maybe pruning that skin as a baby restricts growth. Many doctors seems to think so:
http://www.glorialemay.com/blog/?p=350

As for getting more diseases, yeah right. Watch the video MsIncredible posted. It shoots a big hole in that theory. The studies had an agenda and were flawed big time. You are going to believe a bullshit study done in Africa? I have a bridge for sale. :laughing

Don't want a disease? Don't stick your dick in a diseased person, or at least wrap it up if there is any question.

Sorry some of you guys were mutilated as children. Your cocks will never get to feel the pleasure my cock feels. Why someone would want to prune the best pleasure giving part of his body is insane to me. Its like sewing on two rubbers you can never ever take off. Worse part is, you guys don't even know what you are missing out on. Its a shame really. You are like a girl with half a clit.
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I used to think you were kinda funny- now i think you're completely hilarious.
 
Horse said:
You either don't watch a lot of porn or you don't know the difference between a scarred dick and unscarred dick.

It can be hard to tell when fully erect. I will give you a clue though. Most of the largest cocks in porn are unscarred. Maybe pruning that skin as a baby restricts growth. Many doctors seems to think so:
http://www.glorialemay.com/blog/?p=350

As for getting more diseases, yeah right. Watch the video MsIncredible posted. It shoots a big hole in that theory. The studies had an agenda and were flawed big time. You are going to believe a bullshit study done in Africa? I have a bridge for sale. :laughing

Don't want a disease? Don't stick your dick in a diseased person, or at least wrap it up if there is any question.

Sorry some of you guys were mutilated as children. Your cocks will never get to feel the pleasure my cock feels. Why someone would want to prune the best pleasure giving part of his body is insane to me. Its like sewing on two rubbers you can never ever take off. Worse part is, you guys don't even know what you are missing out on. Its a shame really. You are like a girl with half a clit.
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+1 :thumbup

I tried the subtle version but Horse totally NAILED it :rofl :rofl :rofl
 
For a completely non-religious angle of the dangle: I am uncut and I have had quite a few American chicks look at my rooster and give a disgusted bird-beak face. Never once has this happened anywhere else. It's all what we are told to believe is beautiful; We're all a bunch of pathetic followers that believe what we're told to believe. Here, in the US, a cut-cock may as well be blessed with virgin unicorn piss, while cut-cocks are hoodie-wearing scum-sipping sewer-snakes.

Proceed as you will. Or just let the kid decide when he's 15 and has enough reactions/non-reactions to make his own call. I almost did when I was 19 and was with this one chick who constantly complained about my wang. I dumped her and fucked a few of her friends.

Hope this helps. :thumbup
 
OldMadBrit said:
+1 :thumbup

I tried the subtle version but Horse totally NAILED it :rofl :rofl :rofl

"US porn and the more puerile locker room chat, seems to indicate an acute desire of the cut male to find a tight partner and/or a partner who will "TIITB".

As an observer one has to wonder if there is a correlation between this desire and the loss of sensation resulting from circumcision?

Anecdotally, there does seem to be a much lower fixation on PIITB in uncut cultures "
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wait, so you weren't kidding then?? you expect an american to not call bullshit when you limey clowns are the biggest contingent of sleazebags fueling friggin southeast asian sex tourism, screwing on little girls and ladyboys? who's the bunch of needle dicks??


the silly shit some people actually believe, like the denial involved in thinking that the effing CDC is 'padding the stats' on circumcision being beneficial in slowing the spread of std's, is just astounding.
 
Gabe said:
I went through this with my family. I'm Jewish (the wife is not), and I wanted my son circumcised. I think it's a gift to have a religious/cultural identity, and the briss is I was going to do the whole mohel thing, but opted out of that when I realized my immediate family didn't seem to care that much--and my mother (who says she had me circumcised because that's "just what you did") was actively opposed!

Anyway, I did a literature review and determined that there's no real good argument for or against either way, and I wanted my son to have some Jewish identity, so why the hell not?

I also rankled against the anti-circumcision arguments. They often have an anti-Jewish tinge to them, and compare circumcision to female genital mutilation (a relatively recent custom, by the way), which is both insulting and absurd (absulting? Insurd?) at the same time. Some studies say it's better health-wise, some say it reduces feeling, but there's just nothing that makes it a big deal. Then this asshole printed these abhorently racist comics:http://www.foreskinman.com/monstermohel.htm

monster-mohel-card-front-325.jpg


and that made the choice easy. I wish I had thought of mailing him a bucket o' foreskins.

In the end, I said the prayers myself as the Kaiser doctor performed the procedure. It was really no big deal. There was little blood, little crying or discomfort on baby Isaac's part, and the flap of skin was smaller than a fingernail clipping. There have been no issues at all. He has no memory of it, will have no problems from it, and will have a healthy and normal sex life.

So the answer of should you do it: yes, if you want to, no if it makes you at all uncomfortable or will cause an issue with your family.
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ahhhh so- thanks for posting that...it appears to be these clowns- http://www.mgmbill.org/

i remember there was a big to-do about this in sf a while back, but i didn't pay any attention to it, because i generally don't pay attention to activists in general...good to know this 'movement' has serious anti-semite leadership. what a bunch of fucking, well, dicks.
 
Definitely a decision he needs to be able to make on his own. If there's no religious need behind it, it's not necessary. I don't cut my toes off because I have to clean behind them. Teach him proper junk hygiene and it'll be perfectly fine.

My BF is uncut and it's made sex so much better. It's not just about feeling loss for him, but for uncomfortable sex for future partners. Smells the same, tastes the same as any other well-kept penis.

I never got the whole "God made us perfect except for that one bit on your penis ew" argument.

Just leave it there and teach your kid proper safe sex business. Protecting him from himself is a stupid reason to take a scalpel to his man parts. You know how he won't get STDs? He'll wear condoms like you told him to.
 
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