Circumcision. Is it necessary?

[daventura]

And here's the twist...

OP's wife is having a daughter.

 

[mike23w]

the most important aspect is if you're uncut you've greatly reduced your chance of being a major porn star.

You either don't watch a lot of porn or you don't know the difference between a scarred dick and unscarred dick.

It can be hard to tell when fully erect. I will give you a clue though. Most of the largest cocks in porn are unscarred. Maybe pruning that skin as a baby restricts growth. Many doctors seems to think so:
http://www.glorialemay.com/blog/?p=350

As for getting more diseases, yeah right. Watch the video MsIncredible posted. It shoots a big hole in that theory. The studies had an agenda and were flawed big time. You are going to believe a bullshit study done in Africa? I have a bridge for sale.

Don't want a disease? Don't stick your dick in a diseased person, or at least wrap it up if there is any question.

Sorry some of you guys were mutilated as children. Your cocks will never get to feel the pleasure my cock feels. Why someone would want to prune the best pleasure giving part of his body is insane to me. Its like sewing on two rubbers you can never ever take off. Worse part is, you guys don't even know what you are missing out on. Its a shame really. You are like a girl with half a clit.

do you how to tell if someone is insecure?
when that person replies to a joke post with a long wind, rambling, defensive answer.

 

[two wheel tramp]

OP, I noticed you even voted to leave the kiddo alone. My stepmom left my brother's bits alone (I did diaper duty because of a ten year age difference, which is how I know). My brother left things well enough alone when he was old enough to make the choice.

My ex husband is Turkish and they circumcise when the kids are older there. Around age eight, despite my protests, the kid got cut on a trip to see his grandma. The kid is still pissed at his dad about it and wishes he'd been left alone. His dad thought the kid would not like having his junk look different than his dad's.

What does your wife think?

 

[daventura]

That's a terrible thing to be pissed at your dad about.

I recall the hard decision it was for my brother and his wife concerning their son.

There were many pros and cons, but I think the deciding factor for them, was how the nephew would feel if he looked "different" than all his buddies in the locker room.

But then again, if your kid goes to a school with a lot of Latinos, he'll fit right in.

I like John's answer...flip a coin...or is that tip a coin?

Funny to see Horse posting in here about his awesome penis...I heard just this week, he is, in all reality, the hottest chick on barf.

 

[mike23w]

Funny to see Horse posting in here about his awesome penis...I heard just this week, he is, in all reality, the hottest chick on barf.

that would explain so much. lol

 

[Horse]

do you how to tell if someone is insecure?
when that person replies to a joke post with a long wind, rambling, defensive answer.

Slicing off part a mans most pleasurable nerve endings is not a joking matter. Its barbaric. Just because someone did it to you, you shouldn't want to continue the trend with lies made to make fools feel better.

Years from now, everyone will look back on circumcision with horror. Not just those who know better these days. Its a sick sick thing to do to your child. People should be ashamed.

I'm as god intended me, and very proud of it.

Funny to see Horse posting in here about his awesome penis...I heard just this week, he is, in all reality, the hottest chick on barf.

hahahaha! That facebook photo of me in a tutu has been making its rounds I see.

Hottest chick on barf would be a complement, if there were and chicks on the internet.

 

[OldMadBrit]

wait, so you weren't kidding then?? you expect an american to not call bullshit when you limey clowns are the biggest contingent of sleazebags fueling friggin southeast asian sex tourism, screwing on little girls and ladyboys? who's the bunch of needle dicks??


the silly shit some people actually believe, like the denial involved in thinking that the effing CDC is 'padding the stats' on circumcision being beneficial in slowing the spread of std's, is just astounding.

I can accept that it must be pretty difficulty for many to accept that they were mutilated as a child. However, impuning the character of an entire nation screams insecurity and detracts from your argument.

The facts about the dubious history of circumcision in the US are out there if you care to do the research. It was introduced by the Military and well meaning religious ninnies to reduce masturbation in the ranks and to make it easier to identify the clap and other STD's in mass dick inspections in the trenches - yes really

Then it became a money earner for the US medical establishment which has been in defense mode ever since other nations ridiculed the practice.

No other Western nation supports mass circumcision. The practice is now confined to Israel, the Islamic Nations and the US. Israel and the Islamic Nations don't need health reasons. The US is the only Western nation that has a health establishment that still offers questionable support for it.

The practice is unnecessary, kills sensation and when performed on an infant it is totally barbaric

 

[asthmodeus]

I can accept that it must be pretty difficulty for many to accept that they were mutilated as a child. However, impuning the character of an entire nation screams insecurity and detracts from your argument.

The facts about the dubious history of circumcision in the US are out there if you care to do the research. It was introduced by the Military and well meaning religious ninnies to reduce masturbation in the ranks and to make it easier to identify the clap and other STD's in mass dick inspections in the trenches - yes really

Then it became a money earner for the US medical establishment which has been in defense mode ever since other nations ridiculed the practice.

No other Western nation supports mass circumcision. The practice is now confined to Israel, the Islamic Nations and the US. Israel and the Islamic Nations don't need health reasons. The US is the only Western nation that has a health establishment that still offers questionable support for it.

The practice is unnecessary, kills sensation and when performed on an infant it is totally barbaric

aww, you can't handle the fight fire with fire approach? you cleverly impugned (yer welcome for the spell fix) our magnificent porn industry as being obsessed with anal as a result of circumcision practices, so please-for the sake of your own dubious integrity- peel it back, baby.

i don't care what the origin of circumcision is- if it promotes better hygiene and cuts back on std's in this post free-love country, i'm all for it. some of the best discoveries are made by accident or not for the intended purpose, so there you go..

and calling it mutilation is regoddamneddickulous. nature is FAR from perfect in all cases, so perhaps the practice of circumcision is an engineering improvement on one of nature's clumsier designs?

 

[Horse]

aww, you can't handle the fight fire with fire approach? you cleverly impugned (yer welcome for the spell fix) our magnificent porn industry as being obsessed with anal as a result of circumcision practices, so please-for the sake of your own dubious integrity- peel it back, baby.

i don't care what the origin of circumcision is- if it promotes better hygiene and cuts back on std's in this post free-love country, i'm all for it. some of the best discoveries are made by accident or not for the intended purpose, so there you go..

and calling it mutilation is regoddamneddickulous. nature is FAR from perfect in all cases, so perhaps the practice of circumcision is an engineering improvement on one of nature's clumsier designs?

Insulting the rest of the world does nothing for your case. In fact, even here on barf it seems the majority is against mutilating children. Lets call it what it is.

How exactly does slicing part of your sensitive bits of your cock promote better hygiene? Would you not wash your cock if it weren't mutilated?


I don't see how that extra bit of very sensitive skin could possibly cause someone to be more prone to getting a std. I could see not being mutilated making it easier to have pleasurable sex. Maybe guys who are not mutilated have more sex. Maybe even because their penis is larger, from being un-cut as a child, and they are more sensitive, they please women more. Giving them confidence leading to more sex.

But in any case, the studies saying it reduced STD's were extremely flawed. They were done in Africa, because no way a study of having unprotected sex with diseased/aids people would be allowed here. The way they did the study. African men were tested before and after. Half the men were circumcised as adults. Then they set them loose to have sex, and tested them again in 3 months time. No surprise, the guys who got their cocks mutilated didn't get as much disease, as the ones that were unharmed.

I bet that is due to just having their penises mutilated, and sex not being very pleasurable, but instead painful. So of course they had a lower incidence of disease in those next 3 months. Also not being mutilated, allows one to have sex without as much lube. As the skin slides back and forth. Making sex much easier and much more pleasurable for both parties.

Better sex equals more sex. Flawed study is flawed.

But go ahead, fool yourself if it makes you feel better. But don't try and pass that BS along here.

I know my cock well. I know the bits they chomp off are the best feeling bits on my penis. I love when a girl wraps her lips and tongue around that part. I feel sorry for you mutilated men that will never know that intense pleasure I feel. It makes me want to be a better man, so I can attract more girls to my wonderful feeling cock.

I know what I have. I know what I feel. You have no clue what you are missing. How could you? It was chopped off many years ago. Just because you were butchered as a child, don't take that pleasure away from your children. Especially for bullshit excuses.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I know my cock well. I know the bits they chomp off are the best feeling bits on my penis. I love when a girl wraps her lips and tongue around that part. I feel sorry for you mutilated men that will never know that intense pleasure I feel. It makes me want to be a better man, so I can attract more girls to my wonderful feeling cock.

I know what I have. I know what I feel. You have no clue what you are missing. How could you? It was chopped off many years ago. Just because you were butchered as a child, don't take that pleasure away from your children. Especially for bullshit excuses.

Noone wants your pity, pal. I'm not bitter and miserable because I'm cut, I'm bitter and miserable because I have to deal with people like you. And post reported for pornographic content.

 

[asthmodeus]

I don't see how that extra bit of very sensitive skin could possibly cause someone to be more prone to getting a std.

dude, i'm sure there are a great many things that you don't understand, and your dissertation that i just circumcised all but this only pertinent tidbit out of actually bolsters my argument...because you are clearly quite the meathead.

 

[Horse]

Noone wants your pity, pal. I'm not bitter and miserable because I'm cut, I'm bitter and miserable because I have to deal with people like you. And post reported for pornographic content.

This tread is about butchering children. I'm giving pro's and cons. This is the sink. If I manage to get suspended for pornographic content, it would be my best barf achievement to date!

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[Horse]

dude, i'm sure there are a great many things that you don't understand, and your dissertation that i just circumcised all but this only pertinent tidbit out of actually bolsters my argument...because you are clearly quite the meathead.

Thank you for calling me a meathead. Its clearly because they left my meat intact as a child.

Instead of calling me names. Maybe you could address how I pointed out the Africa STD study was flawed. Why don't you try and point out how my reasoning is flawed. OH- that's right. You cant. Because it makes perfect sense.

Look, I really don't mean to make you guys feel angry by pointing out the truth. Its just that these lies have gone on for too long and need to be stopped. For future children sake. Stop butchering them.

 

[OldMadBrit]

aww, you can't handle the fight fire with fire approach? you cleverly impugned (yer welcome for the spell fix) our magnificent porn industry as being obsessed with anal as a result of circumcision practices, so please-for the sake of your own dubious integrity- peel it back, baby.

i don't care what the origin of circumcision is- if it promotes better hygiene and cuts back on std's in this post free-love country, i'm all for it. some of the best discoveries are made by accident or not for the intended purpose, so there you go..

and calling it mutilation is regoddamneddickulous. nature is FAR from perfect in all cases, so perhaps the practice of circumcision is an engineering improvement on one of nature's clumsier designs?

So let boys make their own informed decision

Don't subject an infant to a brutally painful mutilation at childbirth

 

[asthmodeus]

So let boys make their own informed decision

Don't subject an infant to a brutally painful mutilation at childbirth

no, see, you still don't get it.

a clitoridectomy- that's mutilation.

castrating boys to keep their soprano range- also mutilation.

michael jacksons face- mutilation.

circumcision- a simple excision, inarguably hygienic, almost overwhelmingly likely disease inhibiting.

 

[asthmodeus]

Thank you for calling me a meathead. Its clearly because they left my meat intact as a child.

Instead of calling me names. Maybe you could address how I pointed out the Africa STD study was flawed. Why don't you try and point out how my reasoning is flawed. OH- that's right. You cant. Because it makes perfect sense.

Look, I really don't mean to make you guys feel angry by pointing out the truth. Its just that these lies have gone on for too long and need to be stopped. For future children sake. Stop butchering them.

normally i'll take on all comers- if i'm gonna debate with someone it usually means that i at least marginally respect their views or think that they might actually have a fully functional brain- but you are a special case...not ignore worthy, but definitely not debate worthy either..

 

[Horse]

no, see, you still don't get it.

a clitoridectomy- that's mutilation.

castrating boys to keep their soprano range- also mutilation.

michael jacksons face- mutilation.

circumcision- a simple excision, inarguably hygienic, almost overwhelmingly likely disease inhibiting.

Why would you state that as fact, when you have no evidence to support your claim? Do you just want other people to suffer mutilation as you have, so that you feel normal?

You have no idea what you are missing, because its missing. Go read the studies on the most sensitive parts of the unmutilated natural penis. You will see, that trimmed off bit is the most sensitive. What you are doing to your little boys during circumcision is the equivalent of snipping off half a little girls clit.

I really don't understand how anyone can be OK with that.

Do some reading, educate yourself. There is a reason this barbaric religious ritual is finally coming to an end in this country. Its about time.

 

[asthmodeus]

You have no idea what you are missing, because its missing.

zzzactly! just as you have no idea what it feels like cleaned up. i can assure you, it's just dandy fine.

come to think of it, maybe you should go 'mutilate' yourself, just so you and your giant cock that has all the ladies aswoon can have a truly legitimate aspect to argue about..

 

[Horse]

normally i'll take on all comers- if i'm gonna debate with someone it usually means that i at least marginally respect their views or think that they might actually have a fully functional brain- but you are a special case...not ignore worthy, but definitely not debate worthy either..

So you just call me names like meathead and say I don't have a fully functional brain instead. Way to win an argument. You must of done great in school.

My argument was made by doctors and college professors who did their own studies. Circumcision is a barbaric religious ritual. One that will eventually come to an end when people like you take their heads out of the sand and make an actual effort to understand the facts.

 

[Horse]

zzzactly! just as you have no idea what it feels like cleaned up. i can assure you, it's just dandy fine.

Can you jerk off pleasurably without any lube/spit? Can you have vaginal/anal sex pleasurably for both partners with just natural lube? I doubt it, unless you have a very small cock that doesn't create much friction.

Is your cock perfectly straight? I've seen some butchered up crooked penises in porn. No doubt due to botched uneven circumcisions, making them grow crooked. Proving that circumcision stunts growth. Some studies suggest the same percentage that was pruned off as a child.

There is a reason for that extra sensitive skin. It is to please ourselves and our partners. Sex is more intense or both people when one of them isn't butchered. You are like a person who can only see black and white. Sure sight is awesome. But more awesome in full color.

Keep lying to yourself if it makes you feel better. Just don't expect anyone else to buy what you are selling. Those who can see/feel in full color know better.





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[LongGoneJohn]

and calling it mutilation is regoddamneddickulous. nature is FAR from perfect in all cases, so perhaps the practice of circumcision is an engineering improvement on one of nature's clumsier designs?

Speaking of clumsy designs. TESTICLES!

Why can't they be hidden away behind our rib cage or some shit? The most important part of male reproduction, precariously placed for ultimate smashing at a moments notice.

Nature: FAIL

 

[OldMadBrit]

....... totally missing the point .... blah blah.....


circumcision- a simple excision, inarguably hygienic, almost overwhelmingly likely disease inhibiting.

1) Go and watch an infant being circumcised when the foreskin is still attached to the glans - it is, without doubt, horrific butchery - outside of the US, Israel and Islamic countries, it is almost impossible to get a medical practitioner to perform it at this early stage.

2) The only place in the world that still argues hygiene is in a few hold-outs in the US

3) We have to assume that your dick works fine - but you cant possibly know what you are missing.

Finally - you set out on a crusade to make the case for circumcision in this thread. Did you really expect everybody to simply agree with you If you are going to dish it out - you should learn to take it.

There are many of us on the opposing side that are just as passionate (or more) about stamping out this barbaric abomination

 

[msincredible]

You have no idea what you are missing, because its missing. Go read the studies on the most sensitive parts of the unmutilated natural penis. You will see, that trimmed off bit is the most sensitive. What you are doing to your little boys during circumcision is the equivalent of snipping off half a little girls clit.

Having had experience with both cut and uncut versions I completely agree with this. Biologically speaking, the male foreskin is developmentally equivalent to the female clitoral hood.

 

[asthmodeus]

Speaking of clumsy designs. TESTICLES!

Why can't they be hidden away behind our rib cage or some shit? The most important part of male reproduction, precariously placed for ultimate smashing at a moments notice.

Nature: FAIL

true, but they are on the outside to keep them lil sperm from cooking and lugging around a cooler is always a bitch.

 

[LongGoneJohn]

true, but they are on the outside to keep them lil sperm from cooking and lugging around a cooler is always a bitch.

How about a vented arm-pocket? I mean fuck, sometimes you can cause a life-threatening injury just by running. How that made it through evolution is beyond me, it really is!