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College campuses as safe spaces for students

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Apparently we could be debt free in just a few years. Who knew?

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The only safe space is a hole in the ground.

If you can't go through a day without being triggered, either get therapy or stop being a whiny twat.
 
jdhu said:
I watched this clip and didn't think it was "gotcha." Sure, she's young, but she's an adult, and she's a leader, spokeswoman, whatever for the movement.

It was funny to me that she had basically about 30 seconds worth of statistics memorized, for a 5 minute interview...:laughing

"How do you propose to pay for that?" isn't a gotcha question to me. It's the first, and most obvious, question. I thought the interviewer was really patient and went out of his way not to be condescending.
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Of course it's a valid question, I just don't like how they barely give her a chance to answer before asking the next "tough" question. It's like a 5 year old asking "why" after every answer to the initial question.
 
Wow...some of you may want to get ready for your head to explode reading this. [LONG] List of demands from black student activists at a college in North Carolina. Bold emphasis mine on stuff that I don't see as being remotely feasible or reasonable. (regardless of how well intentioned it may be).

edit - whoa, wall of text. Chopped it down to just the stuff I saw major issues with.

http://www.wral.com/asset/news/education/2015/11/20/15123955/List_of_UNC_student_demands.pdf
(Quoted in part, just the demands not the rest of the letter)
ADMISSIONS AND RETENTION
3. We DEMAND that standardized tests such as the SAT, SAT II, and ACT no longer be considered during admissions process, as high scores on these tests correlate most closely with higher household income, disproportionately benefiting wealthier, white students. Following in the steps of Wake Forest University, UNC-Chapel Hill must become accessible to students who are presently marginalized from attending.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
7. We DEMAND the immediate firing of Margaret Spellings. And any future President of the UNC system must be decided collectively by students, staff, faculty, workers, and those living in North Carolina who are marginalized by the University space.
a. Margaret Spelling was chosen behind closed doors. The secretive firing of Tom Ross was done with the purpose of instituting someone invested in the
corporatization of the University system.
b. She has shown herself to be homophobic, describing LGBTQIA+ people’s lives as “those lifestyles.”
c. She was one of the architects of the No Child Left Behind Act as Secretary of
Education under George W. Bush, and thus was responsible for pushing
standardized testing that has cemented institutionally racist practices into schools across the country.

8. We DEMAND ​that students and workers of our choosing will be included in all committees commissioned for the hiring of top tier administrators (i.e. Chancellor, Dean, President). The current president of ASG, the student body president, and president of GPSF are already involved in some of these processes, and clearly we cannot really on a few tokenized students.

10. We DEMAND that students, non-academic workers, academic workers, and other North Carolina Constituents be given a vote on the Board of Governors. As it currently stands, even issuing a single student vote is insufficient to shift the balance of power.

11. We DEMAND that University cafeterias, gym memberships, libraries, and class registration be free to all residents of North Carolina regardless of admittance into the institution.

HOUSING
21. We DEMAND ​Gender Non-Specific housing and bathrooms across UNC’s campus.

23. We DEMAND that the University decriminalize sleeping on campus or being on campus after midnight for non-students. We know these policies are primarily meant to police poor, Black, and Brown bodies on supposedly “public” space.

POLICE AND PRISON ABOLITION
25. We DEMAND that cameras surveilling students, workers, and white supremacist monuments on campus be deactivated and removed.

27. We DEMAND an end to the list of people banned from the University campus, who we are certain are disproportionately poor and homeless people of color.

29. We DEMAND that no additional funding be provided to the UNC Department of Public Safety and call for a divestment from policing on our campus.

30. We DEMAND the complete disarming of the UNC Department of Public Safety (UNC Police) and UNC Hospital Police.

TUITION AND FINANCIAL AID
37. We DEMAND the elimination of tuition and fees for all students. In achieving this, we call for an immediate moratorium on tuition and fee increases, decreases until all students are graduating without student debt, and the establishment of financial aid that is loan-free and labor-free (no work study). These demands cut across study abroad programs outside of UNC and need-based initiatives such as the Covenant Scholars Program. We know that merit scholarships reproduce inequality as they primarily benefit wealthier, white students. Hence, we aim to end the mythology of meritocracy that is pervasive in higher education.

WORKERS: ACADEMIC AND NON-ACADEMIC
40. We DEMAND more aggressive recruitment of Black faculty and faculty of color. This includes positions in CAPS and Campus Health practitioners.
a. For all faculty, administrative, and staff positions, make formal priority to hire formerly incarcerated people, refugees, Black, Indigenous, and Latina/o people.
b. We DEMAND a faculty-hiring and tenure task force of students and workers of our choosing with full decision-making authority be immediately instituted in order to create a timeline and action plan for hiring procedures and practices.
c. We DEMAND ​all department heads and deans of African, African American and Diaspora Studies, Asian Studies, American Indian Studies, Latin American Studies, and other similar departments and programs MUST be faculty of color.
i. We DEMAND that priority must be given to hiring and tenuring of
faculty of color over white faculty in those departments, to the extent that 80% of the faculty of said departments must be made up of faculty of color. White professors must be discouraged from leading and teaching departments about demographics and societies colonized, massacred, or enslaved under white supremacy.

41. We DEMAND a University and hospital-wide minimum wage of at least $25.00/hour that is commensurate with the living costs of downtown Chapel Hill plus full benefits for all workers regardless of temporary, permanent, part-time, full-time, or contracted status. For a household with a single working adult and three children $32.86 is the full-time minimum wage required for a family to live decently in Durham/Chapel Hill. People should not be compensated for their labor so that they can merely get by, but so that they can thrive. We DEMAND ​that an increase in wages should never result in a cutting of hours. Workers must be paid enough to live, work, and care for family in Chapel Hill, as white supremacist, patriarchal capitalism has made housing prices skyrocket and rendered the town unaffordable to one too many.

45. We DEMAND that the University and UNC Hospitals stop employment discrimination against formerly incarcerated people. Numerous scholars and activists have pointed out how the U.S. criminal punishment system has racism ingrained in its roots, as it has been tasked with the duty of criminalizing and caging primarily working class Black people.
a. “Ban the box” on University and UNC Hospitals job applications.
b. Stop criminal background checks for all faculty, staff, and administration.

46. We DEMAND that free childcare and afterschool care is provided to all staff, students, and faculty at UNC and UNC-Hospitals. We DEMAND transportation from Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools to afterschool programs at UNC. We DEMAND that the University and hospital actively advocate for all staff, students, and faculty be eligible to enroll their children in Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools.

47. We DEMAND that student-athletes are recognized as University employees, paid a base salary $25.00/hour with benefits, and, further, compensated in accordance with the level of revenue that they bring to the University. We recognize that men’s basketball and football, via the exploitation of Black men, are central to the athletics industrial complex (AIC) that runs the University. Hence, we DEMAND a complete dismantling of the AIC in the long term — education should not be a mode of racist, capitalist accumulation.

50. We DEMAND language justice for all workers at UNC. Trainings, materials, and all communication should be made available in all languages that workers prefer. We recognize that the University relies on the labor of a large number of refugee workers and Latin American immigrants, and these workers should be provided with the same access to information and communication as English-speaking workers. Additionally, verbal instructions and communication should be made available in addition to written materials for all workers, as we recognize that workers are often denied proper education, even for English-speakers born in the U.S.
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I stopped reading somewhere in the middle. The answer should be - GO FUCK YOURSELF.
 
Oh boy.

Typical Neo-Liberalism.

I say we put a few of them with a few neocons in a steel cage and let them fight it out.

They don't seem to realize militancy will not be effective in this situation.
 
RRR70 said:
I stopped reading somewhere in the middle. The answer should be - GO FUCK YOURSELF.
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Agreed :thumbup

Meter Man said:
Oh boy.

Typical Neo-Liberalism.

I say we put a few of them with a few neocons in a steel cage and let them fight it out.

They don't seem to realize militancy will not be effective in this situation.
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They might have achieved one or two of those things if they were their only demands. But the wording, the amount of demands, and the reason they are giving those demands is militant and they will just be laughed at.

They don't want a college campus, they want a black panthers homeless shelter run by the state.
 
NorCalAthlete said:
Wow...some of you may want to get ready for your head to explode reading this. [LONG] List of demands from black student activists at a college in North Carolina. Bold emphasis mine on stuff that I don't see as being remotely feasible or reasonable. (regardless of how well intentioned it may be).

edit - whoa, wall of text. Chopped it down to just the stuff I saw major issues with.

http://www.wral.com/asset/news/education/2015/11/20/15123955/List_of_UNC_student_demands.pdf
(Quoted in part, just the demands not the rest of the letter)
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"GUYS! GUYS! Let's forget what all the great African-american leaders did in the past, erase all the headway we have made in civil rights and start segregation again! Except.. this time.. THIS TIME!.. wait.. uh.. this is just racism."
 
I like how they demand no more campu cops and immediately thereafter demand campus cops be unarmed.

Hire felons, plus provide free childcare. Bet there are loads of pedos that would do that job for free...

Not only ridiculous demands, just plain stupid. Lols like the standardized testing hasn't wiped out enough.
 
Sharky said:
I like how they demand no more campu cops and immediately thereafter demand campus cops be unarmed.

Hire felons, plus provide free childcare. Bet there are loads of pedos that would do that job for free...

Not only ridiculous demands, just plain stupid. Lols like the standardized testing hasn't wiped out enough.
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That part was kinda scary, people working at the hospital and doing child care are not subject to background checks? The fuck.
 
Dunno, but those demands go a wee bit beyond "micro" aggressive :laughing.

Like I said I chopped things down to just the stuff I saw issues with - some of their demands actually weren't all that unreasonable. Very few but still.
 
MikeL said:
They don't want a college campus, they want a black panthers homeless shelter run by the state.
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Not run by the state. Run by them but financed by the state with as much money as they DEMAND!
 
I stopped after reading after I got to the part where they want non-students to be able to sleep over in student housing. Pretty much they want to get rid of test scores as an admission standard (aka fill up the college with dumbasses) then they want free housing and gym membership and a whole bunch of other free stuff, and their buddies that are not part of the college should also be able to show up when they feel like it and partake in the free stuff bonanza. :laughing
 
RRR70 said:
I stopped reading somewhere in the middle. The answer should be - GO FUCK YOURSELF.
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No. Give them 100% of what they're demanding. Implemented immediately.

Call it an experiment. See how long it takes for the University to bankrupt, fail and shut down. A month?
 
NorCalAthlete said:
Wow...some of you may want to get ready for your head to explode reading this. [LONG] List of demands from black student activists at a college in North Carolina. Bold emphasis mine on stuff that I don't see as being remotely feasible or reasonable. (regardless of how well intentioned it may be).


edit - whoa, wall of text. Chopped it down to just the stuff I saw major issues with.


http://www.wral.com/asset/news/education/2015/11/20/15123955/List_of_UNC_student_demands.pdf
(Quoted in part, just the demands not the rest of the letter)
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Just mind boggling! Not that I'm a huge fan of ayn rand phylosophyes but having red atlas shrugged I realized that if she was alive now that article would have gave her a stroke at the very least :laughing

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https://t.co/iBWg8WgSkE
 
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teg916 said:
I stopped after reading after I got to the part where they want non-students to be able to sleep over in student housing. Pretty much they want to get rid of test scores as an admission standard (aka fill up the college with dumbasses) then they want free housing and gym membership and a whole bunch of other free stuff, and their buddies that are not part of the college should also be able to show up when they feel like it and partake in the free stuff bonanza. :laughing
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We already have what they want... Tuition free, highly paid workers, no admission requirements, everything free, preferential treatment given to minorities, completely subsidized by the state etc. It's called state prison.
 
you guys realize that anyone with a word processor and access to the internet can type up what ever they want, post it, and call themselves an activist, correct?
 
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