Cyclist has threatened to trash my bike

[iamrob]

You should have chased him down and

best solution

 

[I'm OaklandLion]

Yep. Who was that martial artist who was awesome but got shot after trying to chase down a guy who hit his car and drove off?

I am sure he wasn't as superbad as little Ed, but still, shit happens!!

I remember that. The perp shot him point blank in the face. He was a world famous martial artist. All the karate, judo, wrestling, krav marga in the world didn't help him.

Shame they never caught the guy.

 

[tzrider]

Sometimes in life it's better to take a beating or get arrested then to just take the shit. I'm not the billy badass of BARF (like Brown , but it's this simple:

I'm not taking any shit

from some dickhead guy on a bicycle.

I remember that. The perp shot him point blank in the face. He was a world famous martial artist. All the karate, judo, wrestling, krav marga in the world didn't help him.

Yeah, well, at least he didn't take any shit.

 

[RhythmRider]

Oh snap!

 

[jjslye]

On BiCycles and the Rules of the Road: One year ago I had never ridden a moto and was constantly whipping around the city on the pedal version (the original street-fighter for me...) I recall several things: pounding heartrate, rushing blood and the desire to destroy anything that even moderately threatened me.
This guy was probably just furious and wanted to do the verbal equivalent of damaging something. It's actually an effective yet cowardly tactic, threaten harm to something dear which the owner cannot protect at all times. Why say it if you are going to follow through? Despite all that the OP did the right thing using some evasive tactics for the future as it lowers his anxiety.
As far as the whole confrontation thing, I refuse to be provoked into battle. Search and Avoid is the best protocol for me. I completely understand wanting to call someone on their shit though.....
Oddly enough when I ride a bicycle NOW, I cant even run a stop sign if there is a car @ the intersection. I also try to thumb my signals, look in the mirrors and twist the wrist....oh well so much for being reckless....

 

[Dove]

sounds like you met Will.

 

[Count Chocula]

The cyclist sounds like a self righteous d-bag. It is his duty to operate safely and watch for hazards as well. I'm sure he'd love to just speed around and have everyone part the way for him.

Hang out in the area and watch for him. He will probably ride by again. Then shove a broomstick into the spokes and watch the fun that follows.

But seriously, there wasn't much you could have done given that he ran away like a little girl. That being said, he is just a coward. Don't worry about it.

 

[torrey.smith]

I remember that. The perp shot him point blank in the face. He was a world famous martial artist. All the karate, judo, wrestling, krav marga in the world didn't help him.

Shame they never caught the guy.

You definitely don't want to mess with Krav Margerine.

Not unless you have a whole boatload of katyushas.

 

[PunkRockMonkey]

You definitely don't want to mess with Krav Margerine.

Not unless you have a whole boatload of katyushas.

Gezundheit.

Also: Surly bikes are the shit. If I win the lottery tonight, I'm going out and buying one (and promptly getting it stolen that afternoon while I'm sipping my 6-shot espresso from Tully's on the steps at Montgomery & Market.)

OP: Sounds like the cyclist you came across was a tweaker. Or just had 3 bad close calls in a row and you caught the brunt of his rage. Probably time to flat black the bike. (Wait... when is it NOT a good time to flat black a bike?)

 

[mlm]

It's a motorcycle, not a tractor trailer. If the guy wasn't such a self absorbed douch bag he would have gone around you.

Fuck all the bullshit about confronting him. Just give him that "are you done yet" look and ignore the fucker. He's not going to do shit, or he already would have.

 

[clutchslip]

"You'll think twice about doing that again motherf****r. Rubbin's racin' and you cut me off. I know which bike is yours now and it's toast motherf***r, toast." I tried to apologize but he just rode off saying "I don't want to hear it, your bike is gonna be f****d."

Tough situation. Sorry about the experience.

This thread delivers - thanks, once again barfers.

BUT - I must take this opportunity to push my 1Rider attitude, here. Peeps are missing the point of this incident. And that is, AGATT.

You see, if you remember AGATT, this thing is a non-issue. Cause, I don't know about you, but I ain't takin' nuttin' from some puke that ain't packin, if I am armored up. Next time, kick that f-in' bike over and head butt that biotch with your helmet. Yawn. Remember AGATT. It saves lives and extended fights.

Thanks for taking time to read this safety message.

 

[Blacknblue]

Don't park your motorcycle on the street. Find a secure garage, ride a bicycle to work, or take public transportation. If he doesn't damage it, be assured, someone else will in time.

 

[DanTheMan07]

I remember that. The perp shot him point blank in the face. He was a world famous martial artist. All the karate, judo, wrestling, krav marga in the world didn't help him.

Shame they never caught the guy.

The guy killed himself while surrounded by SWAT team.

Honk at the wrong person in the Bay Area and get shot. But hey life's a risk.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/08/02/MN283785.DTL

 

[Killroy1999]

The move you performed is known to cyclists as the "right hook". It's very dangerous, and very common, where a motor vehicle operator perceives a bicycle as a stationary object, passes them, and immediately turns to the right across their path. I've been hit by cars this way a couple of times, it's not fun. Not justifying his behavior in any way, but please be aware that bicycles are out on the roads with you, and are even more vulnerable than you are as a motorcyclist.

I too bike commute and I agree that the OP probably "right hooked" the cyclist and did not even know it. It happens to me all the time. The motorist completely misjudges the speed.

It sucks to be threatened like that.

 

[Ogg]

So... after reading all 11 pages (sheesh..)

You see, if you remember AGATT, this thing is a non-issue.

This. In spades.

Many years ago in San Diego I was splitting.. cager cuts me off, gets out of the car and comes to have a word. I respond less than politely, he swings at me. I'd have hit him back but I was laughing too hard. Think he broke his hand on the helmet. Idiot.

In the real world, OP could have gotten his ass kicked, his bike trashed, and had no recourse at all when the dude took off into the sunset on his bike. Grow up bros.

Not this.

See note re: ATGATT. I'm not proposing for a moment that we swing first, but, absent firearms and knives, the odds weigh heavily in our favor in a fist fight. Just sayin.

Various drivel re: bikes can't stop, can't go 20mph, can go 70mph, law says merge, BARFers are punks because it's okay for us and not for them, etc.

If the bicycle won't stop in a reasonable distance for the driving/riding conditions then the cyclist is going too fast. As I'm sure the LEOs will remind you, the speed limit is a limit, not a goal, so if you can't stop from 20 mph, don't ride that way. And that's a litany that does seem to appear fairly often re: BARFers and bikes. If they know about the right hook, and we know that we're invisible to cages turning left, what's the difference? Sure, bitch about it, but it's still up to you to ride in keeping with conditions and risks.

Even more drivel about the rider being pumped up, having a bad day, etc.

Discussing, complaining, making the right-hooker (run with THAT one boys..) understand what they did wrong.. all okay. Threats of personal or property damage? No excuse. Period. Ever. Unacceptable. I couldn't care less what your day was like. If you feel that strongly, swing or GTFO.

Various boasting about beating the guy up

If ya swing first absent physical threat from the other guy, you're wrong. If the other guy swings first, all bets are off. And, contrary to CA law, I would hold that you are not done when they quit threatening/resisting.. you are done when they decide to never do it again. Just like the threat, there's no excuse for this.

But if he mouths off at you and your only/best response is to hit him, you've got some serious issues just like he does. You deserve each other.

 

[Human Ills]

A motorcyclist has the option of accelerating out of a bad spot. A cyclist has to slow down even more. If a cyclist had to slow down to wait for every asshole that wanted to cut in front of them, they'd never get anywhere. This is why a lot of cyclists develop the habit of using the entire lane.
As a motorcyclist, I'd think you'd want to put more koin in the Kharma bank.
But that's just me.

 

[reidconti]

if you can't stop from 20 mph, don't ride that way.

I think you're missing a unit of measure.

 

[Ogg]

I think you're missing a unit of measure.

Nod. In the frenzy I left out "in a reasonable distance for the conditions".

What struck me was the impression that folks were saying that the bicycle having unfortunate brakes (or none on some of them evidently) placed additional responsibility on the motorcycle without any additional responsibility on the bicycle.

As for karma, I'm actually really boring driving in town, regardless of what I'm piloting. I just assume it's gonna take me forever to get where I wanna go and give everyone lots of room. Tends to completely avoid the issue.

 

[Flying Pig]

Looked at the first 2 pages, and no mention of just making sure you have comprehensive insurance?
Meh. Least make sure you have that much, because that's what insurance is for

 

[motobigboy]

I passed a cyclist right before I turned right into the free bike parking area downtown, and gave him plenty of space. Moments later he rides into the parking area after me and says "You'll think twice about doing that again motherf****r. Rubbin's racin' and you cut me off. I know which bike is yours now and it's toast motherf***r, toast." I tried to apologize but he just rode off saying "I don't want to hear it, your bike is gonna be f****d."

I've got a mint condition Triumph Daytona 675. I love it. I don't want to see it damaged by some psycho cyclist. What do I do? Should I move it to one of the metered bike parking spots for a few days? I was thinking of taping a note to my windshield apologizing if he felt I cut him off, and explaining that I work for a non-profit and saved long and hard for the bike. Or is he bluffing?

just kick his a**, don't get punk'd by this bitch...if you manned up and apologized, that should be the end of it...if he can't accept it then hit him in the f**k'n mouth so he'll shut the hell up. lol