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Dave Chappelle

TylerW said:
I gave this crowd some serious side-eye when he was talking about his story of "Clifford". When he said "when the cops show up, they SHOOT HIM"

*laughter*

Like seriously, WHAT. THE. FUCK.
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That joke is funny all the way through, because writing a Children's Book about inappropriate content is always funny.

If the joke was that he was writing a sex ed children's book about daddy getting a hooker, that whole topic would also be funny and no well adjusted person would be sitting there going, "WTF, SEX TRAFFICKING!"
 
Eldritch said:
That joke is funny all the way through, because writing a Children's Book about inappropriate content is always funny.

If the joke was that he was writing a sex ed children's book about daddy getting a hooker, that whole topic would also be funny and no well adjusted person would be sitting there going, "WTF, SEX TRAFFICKING!"
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The entire joke was funny, but that moment wasn't. It just seemed like that audience was primed to laugh at every dramatic hook, whether it was funny or not.

Fucking weird that people are just laughing at social cues and not actually understanding what they're listening to.
 
TylerW said:
The entire joke was funny, but that moment wasn't. It just seemed like that audience was primed to laugh at every dramatic hook, whether it was funny or not.

Fucking weird that people are just laughing at social cues and not actually understanding what they're listening to.
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This is why I have a habit of laughing without smiling when my close friends say something they think is funny but wasn't.

Try it, not as easy as it sounds.
 
Kurosaki said:
If that post is before was really about his conflict with Netflix over Chappelle's Show, yeah, not even close to remotely the same thing we're talking about in this thread.

Also, he's not being cancelled. He made his choice and if certain venues are choosing not to book him, that's just consequences of choice. If that's what's happening. Comedians deal with this all the time over things they do or say. Lot of comedians have venues they can't/don't go to anymore. Rogan was banned from the Comedy Store in LA for quite awhile. That wasn't him being cancelled.

This term cancelling and cancel culture is way over used. "Cancel culture" has existed as long as humans have existed.
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I mean...there's a difference between "not getting booked" and "getting booked and then offers rescinded". That's kinda literally the definition of "cancel". I get your point about consequences of choice, but yeah - if they hadn't already booked him and then uninvited him I'd be more in agreement with you. Call it semantics if you want.
 
asdfghwy said:
direct hit on the state of israel and zionist jews who came back to their "rightful nation" where they inflict their own crimes against humanity against an already existing population.... after suffering war and humanitarian crimes in the EU up through ww2.
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Pretty sure this is the only part of the whole show where he was throwing actual shade. Not as on trend to be offended by as trans issues apparently.
 
asdfghwy said:
direct hit on the state of israel and zionist jews who came back to their "rightful nation" where they inflict their own crimes against humanity against an already existing population.... after suffering war and humanitarian crimes in the EU up through ww2.
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Makes much more sense that way
 
NorCalAthlete said:
I mean...there's a difference between "not getting booked" and "getting booked and then offers rescinded". That's kinda literally the definition of "cancel". I get your point about consequences of choice, but yeah - if they hadn't already booked him and then uninvited him I'd be more in agreement with you. Call it semantics if you want.
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We can argue the semantics all day, I'm just not down with anything regarding Chappelle as an example of cancel culture. And let's just say it was, for the sake of playing this out, he knew exactly what the possible consequences of his actions could and likely would be. In that case, I wouldn't have much sympathy for knowingly and purposely pushing the buttons of cancel culture and then getting 'cancelled'.
 
Kurosaki said:
We can argue the semantics all day, I'm just not down with anything regarding Chappelle as an example of cancel culture. And let's just say it was, for the sake of playing this out, he knew exactly what the possible consequences of his actions could and likely would be. In that case, I wouldn't have much sympathy for knowingly and purposely pushing the buttons of cancel culture and then getting 'cancelled'.
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Fair enough.

Just for the sake of playing this out though...for argument's sake....

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I think you could make the argument that while he knew the possible consequences, the likelihood was still a wide open 50/50 due to the stuff they discuss in this interview.

"We've been waiting to get cancelled for 19 years..." and until then they just keep pushing buttons / pushing the envelope. You could make the argument Dave Chappelle does the same thing, but with standup, and due to the medium it's a little more raw / harder to brush off than the animated formats, even if they're poking fun at the same social issues.
 
NorCalAthlete said:
Fair enough.

Just for the sake of playing this out though...for argument's sake....

[YOUTUBE]kE7Gv2piv78[/YOUTUBE]

I think you could make the argument that while he knew the possible consequences, the likelihood was still a wide open 50/50 due to the stuff they discuss in this interview.

"We've been waiting to get cancelled for 19 years..." and until then they just keep pushing buttons / pushing the envelope. You could make the argument Dave Chappelle does the same thing, but with standup, and due to the medium it's a little more raw / harder to brush off than the animated formats, even if they're poking fun at the same social issues.
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There's a HUGE difference between the humor Chappelle used in The Closer, and the humor in that bit from south park.
 
After a while to think on it, there's another factor to the way I watched The Closer that may have made it less funny for me: I watched it with closed captioning on, which is how I watch pretty much everything.

But in this case, I found that the timing of the captions was not well tuned for the comedy. One I remember in particular was the joke about Eminem being... what was it? BET's "N**** of the year"? The punchline of it being Eminem was sitting there on my screen a LONG time before Dave said it himself.

I remember that one in particular, but I'm sure its not the only joke that was ruined in that way. And its a shame that whoever did the captioning wasn't more contentious of how comedic timing is a factor of how they do their work.
 
I find myself tempted to buy tickets to the upcoming SF Show, just because people are mad it is happening.
 
NorCalAthlete said:
So, still haven't learned to watch a full video before commenting huh? Thought we covered all that a few pages ago with regards to commenting on Chappelle's special without watching it...
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I mean, I'm serious and sincere about my "extremist" beliefs, but I also think they're a bit hilarious. I'm definitely in on my own joke.

But that doesn't have anything to do with what I said. The whole "Naggers" joke works because it's calling out folks' internalized racism. I think it would be more effective if Randy didn't go there himself, because the weight of that joke would be entirely on the audience. Though the way it played out, you also get to see everyone's reaction, and that's funny too.

Chappelle's humor isn't anywhere near that clever. He's just telling you what he thinks and expects you to find it funny.
 
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have none of these people decrying chapelle ever seen anthony jezelnick? lol

I know thats edlirty's jam lol
 
TylerW said:
I mean, I'm serious and sincere about my "extremist" beliefs, but I also think they're a bit hilarious. I'm definitely in on my own joke.

But that doesn't have anything to do with what I said. The whole "Naggers" joke works because it's calling out folks' internalized racism. I think it would be more effective if Randy didn't go there himself, because the weight of that joke would be entirely on the audience. Though the way it played out, you also get to see everyone's reaction, and that's funny too.

Chappelle's humor isn't anywhere near that clever. He's just telling you what he thinks and expects you to find it funny.
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It's only like a 5 min video dude. There's far more than just the screenshot you're using to try and discredit my entire point.

This is like anti-vaxxers taking a single sentence of a study out of context and using it as their main "NUH UH LOOK".
 
NorCalAthlete said:
It's only like a 5 min video dude. There's far more than just the screenshot you're using to try and discredit my entire point.

This is like anti-vaxxers taking a single sentence of a study out of context and using it as their main "NUH UH LOOK".
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I've watched the entire video.

I'm not trying to discredit anything you're saying. I'm disagreeing with you.
 
kevin 714 said:
have none of these people decrying chapelle ever seen anthony jezelnick? lol

I know thats edlirty's jam lol
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I don't know if I had ever seen him before, but I went and watched this based on your recommendation.

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I wasn't super impressed with 2 exceptions, the Abortion bit got a literal LOL from me (disappointed), and the last bit where he talks about people online, that is just some real powerful wisdom that I preach all the time, not a joke.

Now Jimmy Carr, I love me some Jimmy Carr.

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Ms. BA and I watched "The Closer" on Saturday. Ms. BA really didn't know much about him but really liked it. I always liked the guy anyway, but he is uttering his truth which is so hard for so many anymore. We had watched Maher on Friday talking about some Netflix people losing their shit over Chapelle, and Ms. BA was in disbelief that so many have.

The other thing is that when comedians stay close to uttering truth rather than surrendering to acceptable schtick, the latter part of their careers usually get embroiled in the consequences. I thought of Lenny Bruce when watching the show. And sometimes, they seem incapable of delivering humor because they have lost their own sense of it in the struggle to defend or explain themselves. I kind of think of Letterman that way. He can still be really funny, but he's got a lot of metaphoric aches and pains from his career.
 
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