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Did they go too far with this building in NY?

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Manhattan high-rise unstable and still moving after columns buckle, officials say
The site of the unstable high-rise in Manhattan has two parts: a taller, 37-floor section and a 22-floor section, New York City Buildings Commissioner Ahmed Tigani said.

The shorter section is under construction. “They were adding 11 floors above the 22 floors,” Tigani said.
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Seems like they didn't do a proper engineering analysis before adding floors.

I wonder how they even got this approved...
 
When you ask the question "Did they go too far" what exactly are you asking?
Did who go too far in what way?

Because that's an entirely different question than "was a proper engineering analysis done".
 
mean dad said:
When you ask the question "Did they go too far" what exactly are you asking?
Did who go too far in what way?

Because that's an entirely different question than "was a proper engineering analysis done".
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Bu too far, I meant trying to add 11 more floors onto it.

Adding 50% more mass atop an existing structure that was only designed for 22 flours would always seem like a risky proposition.
 
Climber said:
Bu too far, I meant trying to add 11 more floors onto it.

Adding 50% more mass atop an existing structure that was only designed for 22 flours would always seem like a risky proposition.
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I've gone out on the scary Internet and read another paragraph about this situation. I now understand that this is an old building and yes, they're more or less doubling the height.

I can not fathom how much they had to pay a structural engineering firm to hang their ass out in the breeze on this one to stamp those drawings and now I can't imagine the atmosphere in the meetings they're having with the ones that said "there is no price high enough to undertake this project" and the ones that said "we're going to do it anyway because we're good at this"

AI tells me that the building was originally constructed in the 1960s. The structural calculations, if they are still available, might as well have been done in a different universe. Also this is an office to residential conversion project. oy. good luck selling those condos for what ya thought you could get for them to make it pencil out ok
 
Yep. Living in a big building would make me feel like a hamster in a cage. No thank you.
 
don’t know shit about this - but have been involved in the restoration / stabilization of a multi story historical building (circa 1850’s). the fact that the issue was on a floor well below the planned upper construction implies to me that a) they used substandard material / structures, and / or b) they miscalculated the load they needed to support during construction. major fuck up either way.
 
I'm sure they consulted with the engineers, architects and builder that built, then built again, the 58-story Millennium Tower in EssEff that was tipping over.
 
I was told it was named the Millennium Tower because the resulting lawsuits will last a ....wait for it....millennium.
My experience with our legal system supports this notion.
 
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