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Drive Test Illegal Dashcam

ctwo

ctwo

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I was told it is illegal to record a drive test, and was forced to stop the recording.

Is this a written law or the persuasion of the tester?

What about personal protection and liability?
 
I'm a little curious about why you wanted to record in the first place. The person facilitating the test was probably wondering the same thing.
 
It's a dashcam, installed in the vehicle, pointing out the windshield. It's been a fixture of the automobile and is there for insurance and personal liability protection.

It's not for the purpose of recording a drive test.

Dashcams is an industry for a reason, and some are not modular hanging off the windshield.

What's a reasonable reason to object to using one?

I don't think any reasonable person would wonder why someone would want to run a dashcam while driving, whether during a drive test or taking grandma to Sunday mass. Maybe 30 years ago it would have been strange to set a handycam on the dash.
 
That would have been a great question to ask the inspector.
 
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It is interesting that the request to turn it off was made.
 
I'm guessing it's their policy rather than a law. I'm guessing you wouldn't be allowed to take video of the state bar examination, teaching credential testing, or any other test for licensing situation either.
 
bojangle said:
I'm guessing it's their policy rather than a law.
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Then they need to say “it’s our policy” not “it’s the law”.

Also, they must not allow test a test in a Tesla.
 
Given there are plenty of DMV drive test videos, it seems random. OK, not said it's a law.

I was told that they wont allow drive tests in a Tesla because of drivers aids, but read complaints of people failing due to regen braking and perception of brake pedal use.

I don't have a Tesla so unsure if the cams can be turned off.

bojangle said:
I'm guessing it's their policy rather than a law. I'm guessing you wouldn't be allowed to take video of the state bar examination, teaching credential testing, or any other test for licensing situation either.
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Perhaps if you took those tests in a bus that had a dashcam? Cameras inside those places are not common, like dashcams are on public roadways, which is different than in those buildings.

The thing is, it's not recording the test, the occupants, it's recording the surrounding area.

Moot point now, but anyone wants that protective video, just hide the camera.
 
ctwo said:
Given there are plenty of DMV drive test videos, it seems random. OK, not said it's a law.

I was told that they wont allow drive tests in a Tesla because of drivers aids, but read complaints of people failing due to regen braking and perception of brake pedal use.

I don't have a Tesla so unsure if the cams can be turned off.



Perhaps if you took those tests in a bus that had a dashcam? Cameras inside those places are not common, like dashcams are on public roadways, which is different than in those buildings.

The thing is, it's not recording the test, the occupants, it's recording the surrounding area.

Moot point now, but anyone wants that protective video, just hide the camera.
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Unless there’s a law on the books that prohibits it, they can’t deny you the ability take a test in a Tesla. If the vehicle has a certain feature, and you fail your test because you didn’t know how to use those features and explain them, then you earned that failure IMO.
 
ctwo said:
Given there are plenty of DMV drive test videos, it seems random. OK, not said it's a law.

I was told that they wont allow drive tests in a Tesla because of drivers aids, but read complaints of people failing due to regen braking and perception of brake pedal use.

I don't have a Tesla so unsure if the cams can be turned off.
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I have one. They record on a DVR system, I believe, but you don't get a constant recording of everything all the time. The recording can be activated by a collision, or possibly a near collision, it can be activated by honking the horn, and it can be activated by pushing the camera record button on the screen. If it is activated, it takes something like a 5 minute video clip, recording the last 5 minutes or so leading up to the event, and for a minute or so afterwards.

So if one were to just drive a Tesla during a normal driving test, it would not save a recording of it automatically that the driver could see. It would need an activation.

ctwo said:
Perhaps if you took those tests in a bus that had a dashcam? Cameras inside those places are not common, like dashcams are on public roadways, which is different than in those buildings.

The thing is, it's not recording the test, the occupants, it's recording the surrounding area.

Moot point now, but anyone wants that protective video, just hide the camera.
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I guess it could be argued that the surrounding area shows the test. Like, maybe a video can be studied by a person about to take the test so they know exactly what to practice for. IDK. Just spit balling.

msethhunter said:
Unless there’s a law on the books that prohibits it, they can’t deny you the ability take a test in a Tesla. If the vehicle has a certain feature, and you fail your test because you didn’t know how to use those features and explain them, then you earned that failure IMO.
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Yeah, I'd agree with that.
 
msethhunter said:
Unless there’s a law on the books that prohibits it, they can’t deny you the ability take a test in a Tesla. If the vehicle has a certain feature, and you fail your test because you didn’t know how to use those features and explain them, then you earned that failure IMO.
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I likely misspoke when I said illegal dashcam. The point is it was requested to disable it. It seems the testers have full discretion of what they decide. Like, if they felt uncomfortable at some point, it's a qualitative measure and completely subjective. You could insert all kinds of qualifiers there that would be completely inconsistent. I mean, even that your car is dirty and etc.

Who is going to argue with a tester? All they have to do is get out and say, nope!

And that effs you for a while. Over petty shit.

I'm in the mindset of police body cams, which seems to have benefited all around.

I don't get why not? Even for bar exams...
 

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ctwo said:
Given there are plenty of DMV drive test videos, it seems random.
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So you're expecting consistency from a bureaucratic entity that will hand you the same motorcycle license whether you tested on a Goldwing or a Grom. :rolleyes
 
bojangle said:
I guess it could be argued that the surrounding area shows the test. Like, maybe a video can be studied by a person about to take the test so they know exactly what to practice for. IDK. Just spit balling.
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When my kids were turning 16 and about to take their driver test in Pleasanton, all they had to do was talk to one of their friends who had recently taken the test and they knew exactly where they would be going and what they would be asked to do. And yes, they would go practice it beforehand. That worked before digital video cameras were so common.

:afm199
 
gixxerjeff said:
So you're expecting consistency from a bureaucratic entity that will hand you the same motorcycle license whether you tested on a Goldwing or a Grom. :rolleyes
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I love that you made this motorcycley. I'd sure like to roll my helmet cam during the cone test.
 
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