Following Other Motorcycles

[jh2586]

Wow you all are a bunch of dicks. Welcome to BARF op, looks like you figured out how to trigger the sensitive ones. Don't listen to them they bitch and complain just as much if not more than your request.

This.

There are always those who feel the need to put others down to feel good about themselves. Don't let that put a bad taste in your mouth. This really is a great community.

 

[bcv_west]

OP is making a legitimate request; I expected a little more restraint and respect from teh BARFs.

The guy is trying vehemently to ride his own ride whenever he's out riding...what's the deal with dumping on him?

You've never made a mistake? A ridiculous request? A questionable maneuver? A an a-hole, dbag move? Never parked it in the corners? Held up a much better rider on the track or street?

BARF, what's up with the holier-than-thou attitude?

He started it

Initial request was pretty silly, and subsequent responses even sillier/more defensive. 3 second following distance in BA traffic? If you're out riding curvy roads, hell yes, back off so you don't ass-pack someone who parks in the corner. Riding in traffic, that bike on your shoulder is helping you, not hurting you, two bikes in formation are more visible than the sum of each alone. Probably would have gone a lot better if he'd used the Seinfeld 'what's the deal' and tried to learn something. Vs offering uninformed critique and having zero sense of humor.

But, fine, sorry for the snark OP, please come back and play on the BARF, we are nice people when you get to know us.

 

[mean dad]

Wow you all are a bunch of dicks. Welcome to BARF op, looks like you figured out how to trigger the sensitive ones. Don't listen to them they bitch and complain just as much if not more than your request.

OP makes a silly request, and when told it's a silly request we're 'sensitive'?

And then OP doubles down and starts talkin shit to everyone with an opinion different than his?

Sure you're not the sensitive one, calling people dicks for being mean to OP? Pretty sure that's a TOS violation.

 

[Jackson]

OP makes a silly request, and when told it's a silly request we're 'sensitive'?

And then OP doubles down and starts talkin shit to everyone with an opinion different than his?

Sure you're not the sensitive one, calling people dicks for being mean to OP? Pretty sure that's a TOS violation.

You're all up in here making all the noise. That doesn't make you different, it makes you the same. Being sensitive about someone else's opinions, and baiting/instigating. If saying, "you all are a bunch of dicks" is a TOS violation then send me my punishment. I stand by it.

 

[mean dad]

You're all up in here making all the noise. That doesn't make you different, it makes you the same. Being sensitive about someone else's opinions, and baiting/instigating. If saying, "you all are a bunch of dicks" is a TOS violation then send me my punishment. I stand by it.

lol wut?

How is responding "being sensitive"? No one is crying except you and the OP.
And if we're all the same, that means OP is the odd man out (if you count the responses, the vast majority are of the opinion that OP is riding too slowly and timidly to be safe, and 3 seconds is a ludicrous following distance in the crowded bay area).

Sounds like OP is sensitive to the fact that most people think it's a silly request, and he got butthurt over it and started lashing out.
And then you got sensitive and butthurt and called everyone a dick.


How many times did he ask everyone to change their riding style while claiming that we're only thinking of ourselves? Again, the majority of the responders here think it's a silly request yet he keeps telling us to ride the way he wants us to, because he has trouble operating his motorcycle.

 

[LectricBill]

It's actually not. I think the problem is that motorcycles are like flypaper to people who feel like they have something to prove.

http://www.survivalskills.co.uk/riding_skills_32.htm

I found that article so useful, I checked out the root page and it's full of good stuff from 20 years of teaching advanced courses. Even if it's British and they don't know how to spell "centre".

http://www.survivalskills.co.uk/rskills.htm

 

[MustangWolf]

I found that article so useful, I checked out the root page and it's full of good stuff from 20 years of teaching advanced courses. Even if it's British and they don't know how to spell "centre".

http://www.survivalskills.co.uk/rskills.htm

But have you ever seen British urban roadways? Puts the Bay Area to shame in terms of crowding and spacing. LOL

 

[vizcarmb]

We dont know your magic bubble and really dont care. No one will cater to you. Is this me me me me me me post. No one cares about you.

Pull to the side if they are following too close. Is common sense not common anymore?

 

[MotoGazer]

We dont know your magic bubble and really dont care. No one will cater to you. Is this me me me me me me post. No one cares about you.

Pull to the side if they are following too close. Is common sense not common anymore?

OP is probably a millennial.

 

[SuperMike]

...motorcycles are like flypaper to people who feel like they have something to prove.

Seems to be the case for you anyway.

If you'd like, I can make you a decal that says PLEASE STAY 3 SECONDS BEHIND ME but I still don't think you're going to get what you want.

Wow you all are a bunch of dicks.

*sigh*

 

[Jackson]

lol wut?

How is responding "being sensitive"? No one is crying except you and the OP.
And if we're all the same, that means OP is the odd man out (if you count the responses, the vast majority are of the opinion that OP is riding too slowly and timidly to be safe, and 3 seconds is a ludicrous following distance in the crowded bay area).

Sounds like OP is sensitive to the fact that most people think it's a silly request, and he got butthurt over it and started lashing out.
And then you got sensitive and butthurt and called everyone a dick.


How many times did he ask everyone to change their riding style while claiming that we're only thinking of ourselves? Again, the majority of the responders here think it's a silly request yet he keeps telling us to ride the way he wants us to, because he has trouble operating his motorcycle.

Why do you care what he says, thinks, it doesn't affect you in anyway, and how is his request any different than you telling him how he should use the internet/barf etc? You got butt hurt over his butt hurt. It's a butt hurt inception.

 

[mean dad]

Why do you care what he says, thinks, it doesn't affect you in anyway, and how is his request any different than you telling him how he should use the internet/barf etc? You got butt hurt over his butt hurt. It's a butt hurt inception.

Not sure you actually know how to word, bro.

Being butthurt means you're upset at someone, like OP when he was told his idea is silly.
OP posted a request on a public forum, and received responses to his request. How is anyone being butthurt when they respond? Can you point out any person here that seems butthurt to you?
Or is that simply your go-to insult when you can't think of a cohesive reply to a discussion that's not going your way?

Being butthurt is NOT people telling him his idea is silly, that's called commenting. Calling someone a dick because they told someone else their idea is silly is the epitome of being butthurt.


Also, can you quote the part where I told him how to BARF/internet? I don't think I did, which means you're creating fake reasons to be butthurt.

 

[louemc]

The proper term is, I believe, " Like flicking a booger....".


OP, my advice? Relax. Practice a lot. Ride every road you can find. Real shitty roads, dirty, funky, slippery roads, ride them so much they don't bother you any more. (I know quite a few people that avoid less-than-stellar roads at all costs, they aren't comfortable). Ride them until the bike is sliding around underneath you, and you aren't tripping at all. At this point, very few people will be keeping up with you. Problem solved. The more you practice, the sooner you get there.

It might seem like a long way off, maybe even unattainable. Not necessarily. Our buddy Al, the Deerslayer, started as a rank beginner. And wan5ed to learn how to ride. He bought a CR500. Almost brand new. First ride, he blipped the throttle off a bump and looped it. He asked me that if I bought our buddies 250, would I trade him for that CR500? And that is how I got my first CR500. I never even rode that 250, just bought it and took it to Al's house. But, Al started riding dirt, had to wait for him , sometimes help him back up the side of hills, sometimes fix his bent bike when he biffed. He bought a BMW R/75, and started riding that daily. He rode a lot. Then he bought a GS1100E (I ended up with that bike, too). But, in a year, year and a half maybe, Al was riding at the front or near the front of the pack at all times. And rode very well. It is attainable.

 

[Lunch Box]

 

[DataDan]

OP, my first reply was rudely stated, for which I apologize. But I'm not changing my advice.

http://www.survivalskills.co.uk/riding_skills_32.htm

The 2-Second Rule ensures adequate reaction space between vehicles moving at the same speed. It gives your brain and body time to recognize a sudden slowdown and to react by initiating brake application (see this post for more on the importance of following distance). It does NOT ensure adequate stopping distance if the vehicle ahead comes to an instantaneous stop, as the calculations in the Survival Skills article assume. But that's not what happens in the real world, where the vehicle ahead is subject to the same laws of physics as yours.

In actual traffic, drivers do not follow the 2-Second Rule and sometimes follow dangerously close behind ANY vehicle. You're not going to persuade them to change their ways. You need to accept and adapt to reality. One effective adaptation is to adjust your own following distance so as to reduce the severity of your braking if you must stop quickly.

 

[Jackson]

Not sure you actually know how to word, bro.

Being butthurt means you're upset at someone, like OP when he was told his idea is silly.
OP posted a request on a public forum, and received responses to his request. How is anyone being butthurt when they respond? Can you point out any person here that seems butthurt to you?
Or is that simply your go-to insult when you can't think of a cohesive reply to a discussion that's not going your way?

Being butthurt is NOT people telling him his idea is silly, that's called commenting. Calling someone a dick because they told someone else their idea is silly is the epitome of being butthurt.


Also, can you quote the part where I told him how to BARF/internet? I don't think I did, which means you're creating fake reasons to be butthurt.

I know you, last word.

 

[hattusilis]

DataDan responds with info about following distances and you start talkin shit....here's a hint: Guess why they call him DATA Dan?

I have seen no DataDans here so far...Not sure what you're getting on there.

If I look like a noob rider who's about to crash then why on Earth would you want to be a fraction of a second behind me? Space favors the defender...

I also never asked for special allowances to be made for me personally. Haven't you guys ever heard of a rhetorical device?

 

[ScottRNelson]

I have seen no DataDans here so far...Not sure what you're getting on there.

See posts 5 and 56 - that is DataDan. He is one of the most respected people here on BARF and you would do well to closely read what he has to say. Some of the other posters, not so much.

 

[mean dad]

I know you, last word.

So then, no you can't point to anyone acting butthurt, AND you can't quote me telling him how to internet.
So you're making stuff up to be upset and cry about.

And then try to act like you're the better man.
Got it.

I have seen no DataDans here so far...Not sure what you're getting on there.

Data Dan is the fourth person to respond, and the first one to openly mock your request.

If I look like a noob rider who's about to crash then why on Earth would you want to be a fraction of a second behind me? Space favors the defender...

I wouldn't be a fraction of a second behind you. You have a tendency to inflate scenarios and act like they are the standard. I would be a safe distance behind you, and the reason is because I want to watch you crash so I can avoid you....while hoping desperately that you don't crash, of course.
As I already said, if you're behind me when shit goes down, I am not at all certain you can operate your motorcycle safely.

I also never asked for special allowances to be made for me personally. Haven't you guys ever heard of a rhetorical device?

Even after the majority of riders with vastly more experience than you suggested your idea is silly, you demand that they stop thinking of themselves (presumably to think about people that don't ride well) and give you 3 seconds of space.
Special allowance.

Some of the other posters, not so much.

 

[Hooli]

^^^^ Ouch.