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Full Face Helmets.....

ST Guy

ST Guy

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I know this subject has been talked about before, but the other day I noticed a San Jose motor officer wearing a full face helmet while riding his ST1300. And this morning I exchanged a few words with a patrol officer who confirmed that a couple motor officers are using full face helmets. So, is this a trial program? Do officers have an option of using full face helmets? Etc., etc.....

I'd sure like to see more officers wearing full face helmets simply because of the additional safety factor they provide.
 
I didn't have the option. A guy in our department wears a flip-style helmet. He convinced them to go with it.

It's a piece of garbage helmet. I'd rather wear my Shoei 3/4th helmet.
 
I've never seen a department with the option of true full-face, but I like it.

A couple years ago I know a Fairfield officer was working on convincing the higher-ups to allow modular helmets, but I don't know what came of that.
 
ST Guy said:
I know this subject has been talked about before, but the other day I noticed a San Jose motor officer wearing a full face helmet while riding his ST1300. And this morning I exchanged a few words with a patrol officer who confirmed that a couple motor officers are using full face helmets. So, is this a trial program? Do officers have an option of using full face helmets? Etc., etc.....

I'd sure like to see more officers wearing full face helmets simply because of the additional safety factor they provide.
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The traffic unit is going to a new uniform and they are testing out the full face helmets. Some officers like them, others not so much.
 
Interesting. Would that affect policy at all? Would an officer be required to remove the helmet before contacting someone (within reason)?
 
eddiet204 said:
The traffic unit is going to a new uniform and they are testing out the full face helmets. Some officers like them, others not so much.
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I can see how a full face helmet can hinder some aspects of performing one's duty, but the idea of wearing a full coverage helmet certainly must be appealing. Anyway, it was a surprise to see and I think having the option is great. I think every motor officer should have that option.
 
even a bilt ff helmet is better than any modular.

but i tend to believe it is better to be able to remove the bucket with-out taking glasses off? no can do with any ff.

but then maybe only officers that do not need glasses should ride?? all others get a cage?...or desk :teeth :wow



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Dietmar Otte did a study in Germany that showed the part of the helmet that strikes the ground when you go down. That study shows that it is the left chinbar that hits most (19.4%) followed by the right chinbar (15.2%)

With 34.6% of the odds of first impact being to the chinbar it's hard to defend continued use of open faced helmets when the safety of our LEOs is prioritized. I wouldn't advocate any given brand or model as standard issue, fit is paramount and it ought to be individualized to the officer. But modular helmets, such as the Shuberth C3 with the ratchet strap, ought to be considered as well.
 
I think you need to be more specific; How many Officers are injured as a result of a collision ending up on their chin, where a full face would have saved them.

This is one of those things that I suspect is, due to the infrequency of officer involved moto-collisions, is a non-problem.
 
Antarius said:
I think you need to be more specific; How many Officers are injured as a result of a collision ending up on their chin, where a full face would have saved them.

This is one of those things that I suspect is, due to the infrequency of officer involved moto-collisions, is a non-problem.
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I'd say the study still holds water, Officer or not. It's still the same laws of gravity we are talking about and the same mechanism of traumatic injury.
 
Antarius said:
I think you need to be more specific; How many Officers are injured as a result of a collision ending up on their chin, where a full face would have saved them.

This is one of those things that I suspect is, due to the infrequency of officer involved moto-collisions, is a non-problem.
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to change your line just a tad.

this is one of those things that i suspect is, due to the infrequency of a officer getting shot. a non problem so officers do not need a bullet resistant vest.

just having a bit more safety and insurance can be the difference between you going to a cold slab,
or a warm bed with a even warmer body next to you.


not a leo, but i believe they should be as safe as possible out there. and the same items and tools should be available to us.
 
Just to clarify, I don't believe a spec change out to be forced on motors. There are too many operational situations where a well-meaning "outsider" (ei.: me) has no business dictating what is best. Only LEOs can decide that, it ought to be their choice and option.

I'm a high-miler and I appreciate the benefits of a good, well fitting helmet, beyond the impact protection. But day-to-day, what these riders and I do is apples and oranges and if I were a motor officer I would not want someone else to make these decisions for me.

Unfortunately, even though they're skilled, there are circumstances where they're put at risk. In my opinion the officers ought to have the choice to mitigate those risks. As far as I'm concerned, the best is barely good enough for these men, particularly with regards to their choice of equipment that facilitates, protects and ads a little comfort to what must be a challenging job, one we all benefit from.
 
packnrat said:
to change your line just a tad.

this is one of those things that i suspect is, due to the infrequency of a officer getting shot. a non problem so officers do not need a bullet resistant vest.

just having a bit more safety and insurance can be the difference between you going to a cold slab,
or a warm bed with a even warmer body next to you.


not a leo, but i believe they should be as safe as possible out there. and the same items and tools should be available to us.
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Agreed but what items and tools are you referring?
 
the same items they say they need..for there protection.

my life is no less valuable then theirs is.
i try to stay out of high crime ares, but crimes goes were/when they can get away with it.
as in my job has me alone at 2-5 am delivering food stuff to fast food shops. doors open easy picking. cause too much traffic to deliver in the day.
in the last 4 years we have had three drivers put into the hospital and two quit do to getting attacked.
so yes read this as in allowing us to carry and have a vest on if needed.
nothing so scarey as getting surrounded by three of four low life's at 3:am and nothing you can do to protect your self.

sad the laws are written to protect the criminal...not the victim. :wow


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I met a moto officer from Santa Clara PD back in 2009, already wearing a full-face helmet (Multitec). He likes it.
 
packnrat said:
the same items they say they need..for there protection.

my life is no less valuable then theirs is.
i try to stay out of high crime ares, but crimes goes were/when they can get away with it.
as in my job has me alone at 2-5 am delivering food stuff to fast food shops. doors open easy picking. cause too much traffic to deliver in the day.
in the last 4 years we have had three drivers put into the hospital and two quit do to getting attacked.
so yes read this as in allowing us to carry and have a vest on if needed.
nothing so scarey as getting surrounded by three of four low life's at 3:am and nothing you can do to protect your self.

sad the laws are written to protect the criminal...not the victim. :wow


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What are you even talking about? :rofl
 
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