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Fuzzy barf Math Logic and Vacation Points?

Papi

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First off, Barf Mods, I'm not trying to start a shitfest. But I do have a legitimate question about the "vacation points" acquired with membership privileges. Also it's raining and my Motorcycle is sad, so here we go.

In reviewing the "accounting" of TOS Violations and how they add up over time, it looks like the debits/credits don't balance for some reason. Now I'm sure each of the reasons the violations occurred were legit by proxy of the famed "Mod Vote", but shouldn't the accounting be just as judicial, fair and correct? Since the "System" is progressive as shown below (Also per TOS 6.3), the Reversals should behave accordingly.

For instance, you will see by the pleasant graphical representation below, a facsimile of what a barf member may see should they glance at their vacation point statement which is clearly available to them at any time.

But what's interesting is that the accounting of Acquired vs. Reversed Credits to the vacation account seems disparate.

Example:

Member gets points for a Violation of BARF TOS. It's for say 7 points. Its then Reversed which essentially eliminates said points never happened. Then they get another, OK 7 points again. If not Reversed, it sticks, and the next Premium Points Award is for 14 Points. Cool, get that, makes perfect sense. But if those Points are Reversed, it should go back to 7 Baseline Points in the account, and a further Violation would equate to earning those 14 Points in the Vacation Account back.

But as you can see, that's not happening. So in the following example, that user would actually have never received those last 30 Points, instead, 21 at most.

I think in all fairness and equity, it should be noted that adjustments may be needed in these Vacation Points accounts when they "may" have not been accounted for correctly. I'm not a math wizard, but I do seem to understand that reversal is the same as (-) minus.

And if the following example is correct, maybe a little "Vacation Points" house cleaning is in order (plus a bonus find of Reversed 21 Points for being a good helper ?) Just sayin. :teeth

What does Budman say?

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The TOS Reads:

6.3 The suspension tier is as follows: 7 days for the first violation, then 14, 21, 30, 60, & 90.

Therefore, IF a Reversal took place at any time, then the next offense would reflect the previous as not existing.

Again, this is offered as Constructive open discussion, and hopefully a simple solution can be extracted.

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The idea is un-democratic and violating All 1234 Amendments of the Constitution.
 
Yeah.....exactly................except............uhhhhhhh............

What are vacation points? How do I track them?
 
You are correct. In most cases if a vacation is overturned then the escalation would be reset and the next offense would be for the same amount as the reversed offense. So using your hypothetical situation that should not happen.

Of course there are exceptions to every rule.
 
You are correct.

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Cool, so how would one have the vacation account debits/credits adjusted accordingly then, when as seen in the example, teh math is off ?
 
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Just wanted to jump in to post so I can come back to this when I really have time..

Crazy days.. :loco I am.
 
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Cool, so how would one have the vacation account debits/credits adjusted accordingly then, when as seen in the example, teh math is off ?

Well, again this is just hypothetical, I would tell the person I promise not to give them a 7 day suspension right now.
 
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Cool, so how would one have the vacation account debits/credits adjusted accordingly then, when as seen in the example, teh math is off ?

Papi, it was nice meeting you last weekend. I was the one holding the toddler.

If another vacation is earned, and a Moderator uses the system correctly, they would see that there are only 3 previous awards, not 5. I suspect that they glanced at the left side of the list and failed to read the right side that shows the reversals. Moderators should do their due diligence and verify the current tier before flipping the Award switch. It looks like that did not happen. Maybe they ignored it because they saw that you ride one of the ugliest bikes made in the last decade. We'll never know for sure.

We have 2 locations where we keep records of previous Awards. The first is a manually updated list hanging on the door of the Award Room in BARF HQ. The second is the Infraction Module that you saw and that prompted this thread.

In an effort to ensure that you get the appropriate Award next time, I will make a note next to your 8x10 photo in the Award Room (think FBI 'Most Wanted' list) at BARF's Worldwide Headquarters and note this thread. I'll even place a big fat star and blinking lights around the picture frame in an effort to attract more attention to your actions and future posts. This should correct the problem.
 
:rofl ^Holy crap was that funny.
Thanks man, good laugh, good times.

BTW, one of the cutest kids evar Enchanter.
I'll work on the riding prettier bikes as not to shame myself further.
That one you saw is a real pile of junk for sure. it's sooo embarrasing :laughing
 
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We'll have to catch you on your next suspension. That will be the time to correct the time served/to be served.
 
If you haven't been suspended at least twice on BARF you're nobody.
 
If you haven't been suspended at least twice on BARF you're nobody.

I've never been suspenderoized?

If its a war of wits here, getting suspended is kinda like loosing isn't it?

And by majority too!.. Whaa whaaa whaaaa.. :clown
 
I work so hard all year long to earn my vacation and now you want to suspend that???:wtf:p
How else can I ride with all my BARF buddies with out my vacation:twofinger
DT
 
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