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Give me your rationale of why you like/have 1 supersport liter bike over another

After installing Heli bars and rear sets, the RR fit me much better. Plus I had to get the suspension changed, it's easier to ride than my old R1
 
Is this for multiple purposes? If so, then:
If you consider the BMW double R, you really should do yourself a favor and get the electronic suspension. I have been pretty impressed with the advantages on a street bike.

Below 10,000 rpm, the bike is quite manageable. The cam is not too radical, and actually I am down a gear quite often for a liter bike on the street. The HP rearsets are a great design whether you want to go up or down, but they are Gilles very expensive.

The bike fully done is expensive. And service and parts are expensive. And nothing is perfect. There have been issues with the speed-shifter and downshifting, for example. I have another issue, and don't care for the service light b.s., which is like most newer cars. Suprisingly, I still would recommend the bike. The technology is awfully good.
 
It's pretty simple, the R1 has a unique sounding/feeling engine......the others don't.

Not to mention I trust Yamaha's build quality more than any other.
 
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My first bike 11 years ago (at the age of 49) was a 1999 R1. I gradually tuned it into a full-on track bike. So I naturally progressed to a 2017 R1M.

My choice was based on wanting the best electronics package I could get because I'm 60 now, my reactions are not getting any faster and I have already gained the skills to pilot a fully analogue race tuned R1 around a track at a decent pace.

So all of the above is the logical reason, but then there is that glorious sound of a cross plane crank at 14,000RPM through an Akro :laughing :teeth :teeth :ride
 
If you like straight up or nearly so, a Bandit 1250 will thrill you unless all the gadgets are a necessary thing.

They are one of the most overlooked but capable liter+ bikes out there and with a good seat, even the inseam challenged can get flatfooted or nearly so.

Take most liter bikes and the Bandit in top gear and open the throttle at 2500 rpm and compare. Night and day. The difference between watching the clock and the big grin on your face, favor the Bandit.

FZ-10 > Bandit. :teeth
 
^ if you don't mind me asking, how tall are you and how much do you weigh?
I have a speed triple, and I much prefer the riding position than a supersport. But who know, maybe I will heal up funky and change my mind.

I had a 2007 Speed Triple. Put 17K wonderful miles on it before I sold it. I loved that bike. I could chirp the front tire coming down Fell Street, burn up the rear from the light and then raise the front over my head on a whim. I put the wider bars on and fitted the Arrow full system straight from the dealer. Even my wife misses that bike!

I picked it up because I wanted something with as much punch and torque as my 998. It was close, even similar, but not the same. There's no better motorcycle than a 998. Except for a 998R. If you're not opposed to owning older things, then give one of those a chance.

I purchased a new 2014 Aprilia RSV4R Factory in 2015 for $6K off the MSRP. It's a really, really great bike. As others have said, the gas milage sucks major balls. The 200 section rear tyre limits your options and guarantees you'll be spending top coin for replacements. And they are not without their issues, reading the MOM will confirm that. But it is the only motorcycle that I have ridden that comes anywhere near the complete package that my 16 year old Ducati is.

:2cents
 
I bet it's a 17x6 rear wheel and that you could run a 190/55 rear without a problem (although you might want to play with suspension geometry)
 
I bet it's a 17x6 rear wheel and that you could run a 190/55 rear without a problem (although you might want to play with suspension geometry)

You are probably right. But after spending hundreds of hours on developing my other bike, I bought this one with the intention of leaving well enough alone. It's the most box-stock bike I've owned in about 20 years. So maybe if I see Dave Moss at the track or have another service at Desmoto, I'll ask them to do it for me, but otherwise I'm just leaving everything "as is."
 
15 R1 with Austin Racing pipe,best bike I have owned so far,gets the worst milage of all the bikes I have had
 
guys n gals, I appreciate all the thoughtful posts.

I do want a hypermotard, no convincing needed, but a different type of bike than the supersport I am looking for right now.

R1 - I love aspects about the R1, and I might get a beater R1 one day, with a crossplane engine just for shits and giggles, but it doesn't move me.

Duc - Don't get me wrong, if someone wanted to gift me a panigale I would ride the fuck out of it, but not my first choice. That said, I do love the monster and the hypermotard, if that counts for anything.

I realize there is a flaw in my logic that I can only have one supersport in the liter class. From this thread, I am leaning toward a beater s1krr and a factory rsv4.

To reveal my bias, I love torque. top end HP doesn't thrill me and I love killer brakes. S3 has brembos, and I bought it with 2200 miles on it, almost did a stoppie the first time I grabbed the front brake they were that good. stock pads. My cbr had the RCS19 MC, which literally transformed the bike and still feel was the best $350 spent for a MC.
 
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I got to ride an 821 hypermotard last year, really liked it
 
A Hypermotard is a nice bike but its sort of a novelty bike. If you're considering Ducati's you should not ignore the SuperSport. For the street its a whole lot more comfortable than a Panigale and looks cool also.
 
I realize there is a flaw in my logic that I can only have one supersport in the liter class. From this thread, I am leaning toward a beater s1krr and a factory rsv4.

I test-rode the S1000RR a couple of years ago. Seems like it might be a great bike for the track, but I thought it was just way to manic for the street. And that's coming from someone who rides a Super Duke 1290R :laughing

A Hypermotard is a nice bike but its sort of a novelty bike. If you're considering Ducati's you should not ignore the SuperSport. For the street its a whole lot more comfortable than a Panigale and looks cool also.

The Supersport S is a terrific bike! I've owned a Multistrada 1200S and ridden the Scrambler, Panigale 959, Diavel, and Monster 1200S. The Supersport S is definitely my favorite Ducati. Definitely a much better street bike than the 959 Panigale, which was surprisingly gutless at low- and mid-RPMs.
 
^ can you unpack that 'manic' statement? you mean it's overkill for the street? isn't every liter bike overkill on the street?
 
^ can you unpack that 'manic' statement? you mean it's overkill for the street? isn't every liter bike overkill on the street?

define "overkill" :laughing :ride
 
If you go the Ducati route, keep in mind service costs. Advanced Cycle Service in SJ is the place to go for the lowest prices when it comes to Ducati maintenance.
 
I test-rode the S1000RR a couple of years ago. Seems like it might be a great bike for the track, but I thought it was just way to manic for the street. And that's coming from someone who rides a Super Duke 1290R :laughing
Are you sure you were on a BMW? I think it is really easy to ride on the street. That is why I made the recommendation. However, I don't have a problem with my Fireblade (CBR1000RR) on the street, either. The BMW is just MUCH easier and nicer to ride. Do you know you can set it for "rain mode" with brakes, power, suspension all adjusted to make life easier. Or you can set it for "Slicks", which obviously is a set of track settings. Perhaps the setting was too much for your street riding? Keep the BMW below 10k rpm, and it is a pussycat in my opinion.
 
Are you sure you were on a BMW? I think it is really easy to ride on the street. That is why I made the recommendation. However, I don't have a problem with my Fireblade (CBR1000RR) on the street, either. The BMW is just MUCH easier and nicer to ride. Do you know you can set it for "rain mode" with brakes, power, suspension all adjusted to make life easier. Or you can set it for "Slicks", which obviously is a set of track settings. Perhaps the setting was too much for your street riding? Keep the BMW below 10k rpm, and it is a pussycat in my opinion.
Do the different settings change braking in general, or just ABS application?
 
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