Hayabusa; Future "Classic" ?

[Bluenote]

Big, heavy and long are relative terms. The bike steers slower then hyperpsorts bikes but it handles as well or better then most other bikes. Its funny how the only people that rag on the Busa are people that have never ridden on a Busa.

Hell, I'm big, heavy and long but it doesn't hold me back either.

Oh for cripes sake! Making a whole lot of assumptions there aren't ya? It should be pretty damned clear from what I posted that I've an abiding affection for the Hayabusa.

Now want to show us all exactly how what I stated could be construed to be ' ragging on the 'Busa'?

Furthermore you can rest assured that I've ridden 'em in several different incarnations froms mild to wild , and you can likewise rest assured that I damned well enjoyed 'em thoroughly .And if you haven't noticed that if I've got something bad to say I tend to just come out with it and let the chips fall where they may then you're bleeding well blind or fail to read for context.

And they *are* big , heavy and long , doesn't mean I don't like 'em and wouldn't consider owning one at some point , for crying out loud STs are big heavy and long and I like STs too. Fact remains that *every* bike has some sort of drawback for someone.

And yeah I agree with you about the handling of the 'Bus , it handles better than any bike that big has a right to , and while they have an immense amount of power they're sedate enough that a chimp could ride on as long as said chimp remained in control of it's right hand.

Now do me the kindness of not extrapolating things from my post that were most assuredly not there in the first place.

Don't be so sensitive about your scoot , there will always be someone who doesn't like a certain bike for one reason or another , but if they're not paying the cost to be the boss as regards another individuals scoot then it's just so much verbiage 'eh?



B.

 

[Lesbusa]

The Busa earns "Classic" status by being a bike that represents a defining moment in the motorcycle world and while still being an exceptional machine in its own right. Other bikes may have caught up to its raw numbers (after a decade) but none of those bikes match the depth and breadth of its performance envelope with anywhere near the day to day usefulness. I can't think of another bike that can reach 190mph and return 50mpg at 65mph.

 

[Lesbusa]

Oh for cripes sake! Making a whole lot of assumptions there aren't ya? It should be pretty damned clear from what I posted that I've an abiding affection for the Hayabusa.

Now want to show us all exactly how what I stated could be construed to be ' ragging on the 'Busa'?

Furthermore you can rest assured that I've ridden 'em in several different incarnations froms mild to wild , and you can likewise rest assured that I damned well enjoyed 'em thoroughly .And if you haven't noticed that if I've got something bad to say I tend to just come out with it and let the chips fall where they may then you're bleeding well blind or fail to read for context.

And they *are* big , heavy and long , doesn't mean I don't like 'em and wouldn't consider owning one at some point , for crying out loud STs are big heavy and long and I like STs too. Fact remains that *every* bike has some sort of drawback for someone.

And yeah I agree with you about the handling of the 'Bus , it handles better than any bike that big has a right to , and while they have an immense amount of power they're sedate enough that a chimp could ride on as long as said chimp remained in control of it's right hand.

Now do me the kindness of not extrapolating things from my post that were most assuredly not there in the first place.

Don't be so sensitive about your scoot , there will always be someone who doesn't like a certain bike for one reason or another , but if they're not paying the cost to be the boss as regards another individuals scoot then it's just so much verbiage 'eh?



B.

I'm making a couple of assumptions not a whole lot of assumptions.

I'm glad that you've had the oppertuinity to spend time on several Busas. There's nothing wrong with having an opinion based on actual experience. Now lets hear from the rest of the pile.

Posting two replies to 20 pages of stupidity spread accross three threads is not being sensitive by BARF standards.

 

[*Tina*]

I'm conflicted cuz that paint scheme actually makes th bike look a lil sleeker but that front wheel cover thing makes it look dopey.

 

[Bluenote]

I'm making a couple of assumptions not a whole lot of assumptions.

I'm glad that you've had the oppertuinity to spend time on several Busas. There's nothing wrong with having an opinion based on actual experience. Now lets hear from the rest of the pile.

Posting two replies to 20 pages of stupidity spread accross three threads is not being sensitive by BARF standards.

Ok I'll agree with most of the above , just seemed like you were aiming that scattergun at me personally.


And it's fairly rare that I actually slag off a scoot , with the exception of course of the plethora of unridable OCC style bikes , and even those have validity for someone.

I will however that it rather griped me when I was stuck in the southeast to see folks go buh a 'Busa and right after they bought the loudest exhaust the could find go purchase the longest swingarm they could get and a 300 rear tire kit , what a dismal thing to do to a fine bike , but then they did the same sort of thing to what I ride ( GSXR1k) R1s , ZX10s , some 600s etc ,etc. Then they'd invariably complain that it wouldn't 'turn' and blame the bike and the company.

And in a way isn't the 'Busa the spiritual inheritor to the legacy of the GS1100 , big , fast , bulletproof ,infinitely modifiable and efficient at a wide variety of tasks.

And of course other scoots suit those parameters to , but none of those had the impact the 'Busa did when it burst upon the scene.

And yup I'd agree that it's headed for 'Classic' status.

 

[Bluenote]

I'm conflicted cuz that paint scheme actually makes th bike look a lil sleeker but that front wheel cover thing makes it look dopey.

Most likely an LSR bike , if so the fender while bonky looking actually has a purpose.

 

[Lesbusa]

Ok I'll agree with most of the above , just seemed like you were aiming that scattergun at me personally.


And it's fairly rare that I actually slag off a scoot , with the exception of course of the plethora of unridable OCC style bikes , and even those have validity for someone.

I will however that it rather griped me when I was stuck in the southeast to see folks go buh a 'Busa and right after they bought the loudest exhaust the could find go purchase the longest swingarm they could get and a 300 rear tire kit , what a dismal thing to do to a fine bike , but then they did the same sort of thing to what I ride ( GSXR1k) R1s , ZX10s , some 600s etc ,etc. Then they'd invariably complain that it wouldn't 'turn' and blame the bike and the company.

And in a way isn't the 'Busa the spiritual inheritor to the legacy of the GS1100 , big , fast , bulletproof ,infinitely modifiable and efficient at a wide variety of tasks.

And of course other scoots suit those parameters to , but none of those had the impact the 'Busa did when it burst upon the scene.

And yup I'd agree that it's headed for 'Classic' status.

I addressed your comment because it seemed like of all the comments in this little spat of threads, yours was the least likely to have come from a drunk 20 something year old with to much time on his/her hands. Also it seemed to be a distillation of the "yeah there nice but so big, so heavy" BS I'm used to hearing from knuckleheads that never swung a leg over the bike. That would be basis of my "assumption". When 50.1% of the plie reply back with proof of having rode a Busa I'll drop the assumption.

As far as the rest, I wil neither confirm or deny being "big, heavy, and long".

 

[the grinch]

Hey, arguments like this is what started this thread in the first place.

 

[Rimmy]

I'm guessing it'll look something like this

i'd ride the hell out of that.

 

[Frank]

I love the Busa's!

I put over 80,000 miles on mine when I lived in Florida. It took a fucking ton of abuse, laughed at me, said: "is THAT all you got" and asked for more. It was one of the funnest bikes I've owned but also the most dangerous. Yet many of my funnest (and scariest) memories were made on that bike. Amazingly it was the only bike I put that many miles on without crashing even once.

People say riding in Florida isn't challenging or fun, well I will have to disagree. Its fun as hell on a Nitrous or Turbo Busa. The downside on the built Busa was I would fry tires inside of 500 miles, which adds up quick when you figure in 80K miles over 3 years.

But as much as I loved the Busa, I wouldn't own one in California, and I wouldn't bother to own a stock one. The Busa is heavy handling and the motors are designed to be built/boosted to mega horsepower rocket-ship status.

My current bike (09 GSXR-T 1000) has around the same power as a stock Busa but is much lighter, quicker, better handling, better stopping, and more comfortable for sport touring. It will eat stock Busa's for lunch.

But I do miss trying to keep the Busa's front end down at a buck fifty when on the Turbo or Nitrous power. It was very challenging and required a lot of attention 'not' to wheelie, or spin the hell out of the rear tire, and that is some serious fun when money is on the line.

In Florida we would do stuff like hide serious horsepower under fairings on stock looking bikes and find big mouth braggers on tricked out bikes to race for money. Lots of douche bags with cash/ego's down there on poser bikes so was easy pickens. Only thing is we had to swap fairings or riders every once in a while when the sleeper bikes or rider became too well known. Good times and it paid for the HP mods and tire bills.






With the fairings on, you couldn't see the big Nitrous bottles or know it had a big bore engine.

The little exhaust pipe sticking out the fairing bottom is from the turbo's wastegate.

 

[}Dragon{]

I'm conflicted cuz that paint scheme actually makes th bike look a lil sleeker but that front wheel cover thing makes it look dopey.

Think salt flats.

 

[AbsolutEnduser]

Whoa... I'm honored to be reading Frank's post.. whoa

 

[Starshooter10]

frank you sneaky bastard... hiding your NAAWWSSS under the seat lol!

 

[Frank]

frank you sneaky bastard... hiding your NAAWWSSS under the seat lol!

In Florida, we would race EVERYTHING for money... no joke! We had all kinds of sleepers.

 

[Diezel]

I am caught between fixing it or parting it out...:sad

Dude, STFU and fix it.

I'm actually fairly impressed with it as a long term keeper even though it *is* big heavy and long.

Relative to the rider, or passenger? Or is this just an observation? The ZX14R and CBR1100xx are very close. Matter of factly the CBR and GSXR share the SAME wheelbase of 58.5 inches. The ZX14R is 57.4 inches. So again. What are you implying?

Big, heavy and long are relative terms. The bike steers slower then hyperpsorts bikes but it handles as well or better then most other bikes. Its funny how the only people that rag on the Busa are people that have never ridden on a Busa.

This.

Oh for cripes sake! Making a whole lot of assumptions there aren't ya? It should be pretty damned clear from what I posted that I've an abiding affection for the Hayabusa.

I'm making a couple of assumptions not a whole lot of assumptions.

Also it seemed to be a distillation of the "yeah there nice but so big, so heavy" BS I'm used to hearing from knuckleheads that never swung a leg over the bike.

This... I know there are plenty of people in my neck of the woods, that are DAMN surprised to see a "fat assed" busa following them a bit closer then they think is possible for such a "slow, fat, heavy" bike. There are even some changes that can be made to "help" people feel a difference in handling of the bike, and speed "flick" time up, such as changing from a 190 to a 180 rear tire.

My current bike (09 GSXR-T 1000) has around the same power as a stock Busa but is much lighter, quicker, better handling, better stopping, and more comfortable for sport touring. It will eat stock Busa's for lunch.
With the fairings on, you couldn't see the big Nitrous bottles or know it had a big bore engine.

I don't want to burst your bubble.. But to clueless folks, they may not notice. To a performance or bike enthusiast, we'll notice!

Is your 1000 stock? I think you'd know by now the 1000's don't have the torque and hp balance like the busa, to keep up to speed with the busa above 150-170mph. Or atleast that's what I have seen.. Maybe its just the other riders balls dropping off.

In Florida, we would race EVERYTHING for money... no joke! We had all kinds of sleepers.

No Joke. I sold a ton of "worked" pocketbike motors to people in FL.

 

[*Tina*]

Think salt flats.

I figured so much.

 

[budbandit]

The Hayabusa is both more and less than what some say.

It is more of an overall useful, reasonably comfortable, anvil reliable motorcycle than many realize. The motor is hugely understressed, lasting forever. They bang and clank and generally are less refined than machines like the CBR 1100xx, but they pull like with authority from right off idle in a way that makes hopping on to most other machines somewhat disappointing. Yes, matched or surpassed by machines like the ZX10 in terms of top end pull, few can match the everyday grunt of the 'busa.

That said, while the big girl dances well and certainly can and does slay many a more nimble bike in the hills, an equal rider on a GSXR will leave a rider of the same skill and pace on a 'busa fairly quickly when things get twisty. Yep, a GSXR weighing more than 100 lbs less will stunt better and be sportier as well as being far handier on the track, I more often find myself pleased with how well the big girl moves rather than get all fussy over her thick thighs and muffin top.

If you have always wanted a Hayabusa, just do it. Pull the trigger, live the dream. Enjoy the basso profondo soundtrack, it helps mask the speed. Hoist some minters, bully some R6s at the light. Enjoy spanking rich fools in the Onramp Challenge. It may not be the best sporting mount, but it is still a damn fun, memorable, charismatic bike with a big bad motor that responds well to tuning. You may not keep it forever, but like the summer with that thick, tan girl with the pierced tongue, tats, a lack of inhibitions and an abundance of enthusiasm and strength, you are in for a memorable ride that you will look back fondly on for many years.

 

[hayabusafiend]

The Hayabusa is both more and less than what some say.

It is more of an overall useful, reasonably comfortable, anvil reliable motorcycle than many realize. The motor is hugely understressed, lasting forever. They bang and clank and generally are less refined than machines like the CBR 1100xx, but they pull like with authority from right off idle in a way that makes hopping on to most other machines somewhat disappointing. Yes, matched or surpassed by machines like the ZX10 in terms of top end pull, few can match the everyday grunt of the 'busa.

That said, while the big girl dances well and certainly can and does slay many a more nimble bike in the hills, an equal rider on a GSXR will leave a rider of the same skill and pace on a 'busa fairly quickly when things get twisty. Yep, a GSXR weighing more than 100 lbs less will stunt better and be sportier as well as being far handier on the track, I more often find myself pleased with how well the big girl moves rather than get all fussy over her thick thighs and muffin top.

If you have always wanted a Hayabusa, just do it. Pull the trigger, live the dream. Enjoy the basso profondo soundtrack, it helps mask the speed. Hoist some minters, bully some R6s at the light. Enjoy spanking rich fools in the Onramp Challenge. It may not be the best sporting mount, but it is still a damn fun, memorable, charismatic bike with a big bad motor that responds well to tuning. You may not keep it forever, but like the summer with that thick, tan girl with the pierced tongue, tats, a lack of inhibitions and an abundance of enthusiasm and strength, you are in for a memorable ride that you will look back fondly on for many years.

Amen.
http://bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=253611
I met my wife with that bike.

 

[Frank]

I don't want to burst your bubble.. But to clueless folks, they may not notice. To a performance or bike enthusiast, we'll notice!

Is your 1000 stock? I think you'd know by now the 1000's don't have the torque and hp balance like the busa, to keep up to speed with the busa above 150-170mph. Or atleast that's what I have seen.. Maybe its just the other riders balls dropping off.

No Joke. I sold a ton of "worked" pocketbike motors to people in FL.

Don't worry you won't burst my bubble, I've been in the game a long time, and have done a LOT of testing in Florida. The new bikes have 'around' the same HP (busa might have 3-4 more) and very true the Busa has a lot more torque. But it also weighs a lot more than the very light GSXR.

I also owned a 01 GSXR 1K (the one in my avatar) back when I had my Busa and ran it against many stock Busa's and won. But it was due more to rider than bike. Because if we swapped bikes it would reverse. (top speed my 01 GSXR 1k ran 184 stock on the GPS, my 99 Busa ran 191 stock)

The Busa has an big edge in aerodynamics over the older GSXR 1k's, so Busa's would walk the older gixxers at high speeds. But dont mistake the new 09 GSXR's for the older ones, they have improved the aerodynamics on the new GSXR quite a bit. A clue is seeing how well they did in the first world superbike races.

Word from my Florida buddies who drag race both these 09 bikes regularly, say stock the 09 bikes are close enough that It comes more down to rider skill than bike in a standing quarter or even half mile. Top speed, bone stock (except for TRE) the new Busa's are running between 188-192 on GPS. The one 09 GSXR they have run stock so far (except for TRE) ran 188 so its in the ball park. That 09 1K now has some mild motor work done to it and its running 203, and that bike is ass whooping many Busa's for cash. But the Busa's with motor work are running MUCH faster as its much easier to get big HP gains out of them, so they destroy everything. Which is why I love the Busa's if you are running in a long straight line.

But where do you run in a long straight line in California?

BTW- My Buddy who owns/races a very fast turbo Busa got hurt bad on a built pocketbike. Those pocketbikes are dangerous!

 

[}Dragon{]

That said, while the big girl dances well and certainly can and does slay many a more nimble bike in the hills, an equal rider on a GSXR will leave a rider of the same skill and pace on a 'busa fairly quickly when things get twisty. Yep, a GSXR weighing more than 100 lbs less will stunt better and be sportier as well as being far handier on the track, I more often find myself pleased with how well the big girl moves rather than get all fussy over her thick thighs and muffin top.

The GSXR is more forgiving to indiscretions.