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HBO's: The Pacific

2strokeYardSale said:
Dr. Evil, hell yeah. Kursk, Moscow, Stalingrad. MF'ing T-34s on the steppe!

But really, can you imagine DreamWorks raising $100M to portray the plight of the German conscript? In the final episode, the main character doesn't come home to a medal and a parade, but is shipped off in a cattle car to a Soviet gulag, where he is worked and starved to death within a few years.
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I read the book "Soldat" a couple years ago that was an autobiography of a German mounted artillery soldier on the eastern front. He talks about his high school days (hanging out with his Jew friends), his combat experience, and being captured by the Russians. He found out what happened to the Jews while in a prison camp.

We he was released he smuggled his family out of East Germany and moved to Ohio because he wanted to be as far from Russia as he could get. Real good book.
 
Just got caught up from last weeks episode.

"Peaches" and "Old Faithful" lol :rofl


Peaches FTMFW!

Episode 3 tonight.
 
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I don't like this series as much as Band of Brothers. Having a hard time connecting to it. Something feels 'missing'. Kind of hurries through the combat scenes. For instance, the Guadalcanal fight didn't really convey the intensity of what really happened there IMO.

The producers did say that they were going to focus more on story line and not on combat though. I think that is why it feels somewhat hollow to me.

I lived next to a Marine that made it through the Island invasions, and listening to his stories were pretty inspiring. He had 3 Purple Hearts, Bronze Star with Valor and a Silver Star for his efforts there. :flag
 
n10sive said:
I don't like this series as much as Band of Brothers. Having a hard time connecting to it. Something feels 'missing'. Kind of hurries through the combat scenes. For instance, the Guadalcanal fight didn't really convey the intensity of what really happened there IMO.

The producers did say that they were going to focus more on story line and not on combat though. I think that is why it feels somewhat hollow to me.

I lived next to a Marine that made it through the Island invasions, and listening to his stories were pretty inspiring. He had 3 Purple Hearts, Bronze Star with Valor and a Silver Star for his efforts there. :flag
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yeah, I don't like the pace as much as I did with band of brothers. Also, it's hard to follow the other characters in the pacific. in band you met them all during the boot camp/training scenes in the first episode and you know how they all related to each other right from the start. The only character I was able to follow so far is that lecky guy

I'm trying really hard to keep watching the series (where as with band of brothers, I didn't have to try at all). THe next episode looks like a good one and I'm hoping the series will be better toward the end. I have a vested interest in the pacific war since my grandfather fought for the us army during that time as regular enlisted and later as a guerilla after japan took over the philippines.
 
I get a feeling they are saving everything for Iwo Jima.

I'd really like to see Leyte Gulf but as this series focuses on Marines on islands, I don't think that will happen.
 
2strokeYardSale said:
Dr. Evil, hell yeah. Kursk, Moscow, Stalingrad. MF'ing T-34s on the steppe!

But really, can you imagine DreamWorks raising $100M to portray the plight of the German conscript? In the final episode, the main character doesn't come home to a medal and a parade, but is shipped off in a cattle car to a Soviet gulag, where he is worked and starved to death within a few years.
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Of the roughly 500-600 thousand German soldiers who fought at Stalingrad, about 350-400 thousand were alive to surrender. Of those men, about 6,000 made it back to Germany after the war and the gulags. Yep, 6,000.
 
just watched "Enemy at the Gates" last night. Good movie about the battle in Stalingrad IMO. (probably the ONLY movie though :laughing)
 
I am really letdown by the Pacific. I had high hopes, generally like this sort of thing, but it is so fucking slow paced, and 1/2 of the episodes are guys looking pensive. Yeah yeah, I get it, war is hell, the 1000 yard stare, etc.

Not to mention the credits take fucking 10 min every episode, etc. I DVR it and can still barely stand it.
 
n10sive said:
or digging gold out of their teeth
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Im sure most are aware of how barbaric the Japanese were during WW2.
War is a nasty business.:|

http://www.victorhanson.com/articles/hanson072507.html

In disbelief I stared at the face as I realize that the Japanese had cut off the dead Marine’s penis and stuffed it into his mouth. My emotions solidified into rage and a hatred for the Japanese beyond anything I ever had experienced. From that moment on I never felt the least pity or compassion for them no matter what the circumstances. My comrades would field strip their packs and pockets for souvenirs and take gold teeth, but I never saw a Marine commit the kind of barbaric mutilation the Japanese committed if they had access to our dead.
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just watched last sunday's episode. I liked it but the series as a whole is still underwhelming (compared to band of brothers). It's really hard for me to follow since every character either gets pulled back home, dies, or completely disappears. I also can't believe that the gunny broke down like that. he seemed/looked like the stereo-typical marine drill sgt that eats and shits nails for breakfast.
 
I've tried to like it. Seen all 7 episodes so far. But man I am just letdown by this series. I'm having a hard time connecting to the characters, the only characters I remember by face is Lucky, Basilone, the mortar kid, and the psycho kid that digs up gold teeth.

It's been a while since I've seen Band of Brothers, but I can name a bunch of those guys. Compton, Winters, Guarnere, Toye, Nixon, Webster, Speirs, Lipton, Malarkey, etc.

It just doesn't come up to the high standards set by BoB. Shame too, since I can relate to the Pacific war better. Peleliu which has been portrayed in the last 2 episodes is barely a one-hour flight from where I grew up.
 
2strokeYardSale said:
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:rolleyes

United States Marine Corps
Medal of Honor Recipients

World War II 1941-1945


PFC Harold C. Agerholm - 1944 - 10th Marines *
* PFC Richard B. Anderson - 1944 - 23rd Marines *
* Major Kenneth D. Bailey - 1942 - 1st Raider Battalion *
Sergeant John Basilone - 1942 - 7th Marines
Lieutenant Colonel Harold W. Bauer - 1942 - VMF-212
* Corporal Lewis K. Bausell - 1944 - 5th Marines *
* Corporal Charles J. Berry - 1945 - 26th Marines *
* 1st Lieutenant Alexander Bonneyman, Jr - 1943 - 18th Marines *
* Staff Sergeant William J. Bordelon, Jr. - 1943 - 18th Marines *
Major Gregory Boyington - 1943-44 - VMF-214
Corporal Richard E. Bush - 1945 - 26th Marines
* PFC William R. Caddy - 1945 - 26th Marines *
* 1st Lieutenant George H. Cannon - 1941 - 6th Defense Battalion *
Corporal Anthony Casamento - 1942 - 5th Marines
Lieutenant Colonel Justice M. Chambers - 1945 - 25th Marines
* Sergeant Darrell S. Cole - 1945 - 23rd Marines *
* Major Henry A. Courtney, Jr. - 1945 - 22nd Marines *
* Corporal Anthony P. Damato - 1944 - 22nd Marines *
Corporal James L. Day - 1945 - 26th Marines
1st Lieutenant Jefferson J. DeBlanc - 1943 - VMF-112
Captain Robert H. Dunlap - 1945 - 26th Marines
* Lieutenant Colonel Aquilla J. Dyess - 1944 - 24th Marines *
Colonel Merritt A. Edson - 1942 - 1st Raider Battalion
* Captain Henry T. Elrod - 1941 - VMF-211 *
* PFC Harold G. Epperson - 1944 - 6th Marines *
* Corporal John P. Fardy - 1945 - 1st Marines *
Captain Richard E. Fleming - 1942 - VMSB-241
Captain Joseph J. Foss - 1942 - VMF-121
* PFC William A. Foster - 1945 - 1st Marines *
Major Robert E. Galer - 1942 - VMF-224
Private Harold Gonsalves - 1945 - 15th Marines
Sergeant Ross F. Gray - 1945 - 25th Marines
* PFC Henry Gurke - 1943 - 3rd Raider Battalion *
Private Dale M. Hansen - 1945 - 1st Marines
1st Lieutenant Robert M. Hanson - 1943-44 - VMF-215
Sergeant William G. Harrel - 1945 - 28th Marines
* Corporal Louis J. Hauge, Jr. - 1945 - 1st Marines *
* 1st Lieutenant William D. Hawkins - 1943 - 2d Marines *
PFC Arthur J. Jackson - 1944 - 7th Marines
PFC Douglas T. Jacobson - 1945 - 23rd Marines
* Platoon Sergeant Joseph R. Julian - 1945 - 27th Marines *
* Sergeant Elbert L. Kinser - 1945 - 1st Marines *
* PFC Richard E. Kraus - 1944 - 8th Amphibious Tractor Bn. *
* PFC James D. Labelle - 1945 - 27th Marines *
2d Lieutenant John Harold Leims - 1945 - 27th Marines
PFC Jacklyn H. Lucas - 1945 - 26th Marines
* 1st Lieutenant Jack Lummus - 1945 - 27th Marines *
* 1st Lieutenant Harry L. Martin - 1945 - 5th Pioneer Bn. *
* PFC Leonard F. Mason - 1944 - 3rd Marines *
* Gunnery Sergeant Robert H. McCard - 1944 - 4th Tank Bn. *
Captain Joseph McCarthy - 1945 - 24th Marines
* Private Robert M. McTureous, Jr. - 1945 - 29th Marines *
* PFC John D. New - 1944 - 7th Marines *
Sergeant Robert A. Owens - 1943 - 3rd Marines
* Private Joseph W. Ozbourn - 1944 - 23rd Marines *
Platoon Sergeant Mitchell Paige - 1942 - 7th Marines
* Private Wesley Phelps - 1944 - 7th Marines *
* Private George Phillips - 1945 - 28th Marines *
Captain Everett P. Pope - 1944 - 1st Marines
* 1st Lieutenant John V. Power - 1944 - 24th Marines *
* PFC Charles H. Roan - 1944 - 7th Marines *
2d Lieutenant Carlton R. Rouh - 1944 - 5th Marines
* PFC Donald J. Ruhl - 1945 - 28th Marines *
* PFC Albert E. Schwab - 1945 - 5th Marines *
Colonel David M. Shoup - 1943 - 2d Marines
Private Franklin E. Sigler - 1945 - 26th Marines
PFC Luther Skaggs, Jr. - 1944 - 3rd Marines
Major John L. Smith - 1942 - VMF-223
Private Richard K. Sorenson - 1944 - 24th Marines
* Corporal Tony Stein - 1945 - 28th Marines *
1st Lieutenant James E. Swett - 1943 - VMF-221
* Sergeant Herbert J. Thomas - 1943 - 3rd Marines *
* Sergeant Clyde Thomason - 1942 - 2d Raider Battalion *
* Sergeant Grant F. Timmerman - 1944 - 2d Tank Battalion *
Major General Alexander A. Vandergrift - 1942 - 1st Mar. Div.
* 1st Lieutenant Kenneth A. Walsh - 1945 - VMF-124 *
* Gunnery Sergeant William C. Walsh - 1945 - 27th Marines *
Private Wilson D. Watson - 1945 - 9th Marines
Corporal Hershel W. Williams - 1945 - 21st Marines
Captain Louis H. Wilson, Jr. - 1944 - 9th Marines
* PFC Robert L. Wilson - 1944 - 6th Marines *
* PFC Frank P. Witek - 1944 - 9th Marines
 
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