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HID / Xenon headlights on my bike (WHOA!)

Stan: do you know if your kit came with a D2S or a D2R bulb?

From intellexual.net:
"HID bulbs come in two common standards today known as: D2S and D2R. D2S uses the D2 base and a clear, naked bulb. D2R uses the same D2 base and a bulb with a metallic strip along one edge to combat unwanted glare in the reflector headlamp. So in OEM HID applications D2R is used in reflector-type HID assemblies whereas D2S is used in projector-type assemblies."

Here's an example so you can get a visual:
D2S bulb:
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D2R bulb:
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Your headlight is a reflecor-type, and looking at your picture (pattern on garage door), I think you have the D2S bulb which is suited for projector applications.
If this is the case, you should consider picking up a D2R bulb. You will barely notice a difference in light output, but it will eliminate that glare 'hump' on top of the usual cutoff line, and therefore protect oncoming drivers.

Just something to consider.

Cheers,
~Alan
 
Thanks Alan,

I looked at my bulb and indeed it has the metallic strip. The strip runs through the entire lenght of the bulb.
 
Guys, if you have a 'negative' experience from a cage or otherwise HID setup, don't come in here, and think that you're gonna see the same thing from my setup.
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That's it exactly for me actually ;D

Got blasted right in the eyes by some guy/girl/it in (what sounded like) an import (ricer) with what was most likely an illegal swap in. The glare was ridiculous. Had been in the process of setting up for the corner and got a serious blast directly in my eyes. Probably some kid who thought ridiculously bright headlights would kick ass.

Still not sure how I didn't go down. Held what I assumed would be the appropriate amount for the turn and by the grace of god remained in my lane and pulled out.

Perhaps my comment was a little out of line but I'm still pretty bitter about that incident.

Bottom line I suppose - you can have as much fun as you want until it infringes on somebody else's rights. Those kits are illegal because they were deemed to be unsafe. There are legitimate kits out there - they cost a healthy buck (overchaging imo) but for the most part they are properly designed and don't cause any problems.

I'll edit to be nice.
 
Kestrel said:
That's it exactly for me actually ;D

Got blasted right in the eyes by some guy/girl/it in (what sounded like) an import (ricer) with what was most likely an illegal swap in. The glare was ridiculous. Had been in the process of setting up for the corner and got a serious blast directly in my eyes. Probably some kid who thought ridiculously bright headlights would kick ass.

Still not sure how I didn't go down. Held what I assumed would be the appropriate amount for the turn and by the grace of god remained in my lane and pulled out.

Perhaps my comment was a little out of line but I'm still pretty bitter about that incident.

Bottom line I suppose - you can have as much fun as you want until it infringes on somebody else's rights. Those kits are illegal because they were deemed to be unsafe. There are legitimate kits out there - they cost a healthy buck (overchaging imo) but for the most part they are properly designed and don't cause any problems.

I'll edit to be nice.
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Hi Kestrel,

You don't have to edit, and I respect your opinion. I too - don't like to be blasted by idiot HID ricer's that think they are too cool to give a crap about anybody else's opinion.

I wouldn't want to shine glare on anyone (esp. MC's) - and if it was a problem, I would have long ago taken off the setup.

I tested my kit, not only by measuring the cut-off light, but also making sure in 'real-world' tests that it would not cause glare to on-coming traffic. Sure, you can't please the masses, and there's always folks that will be annoyed (even with no glare) but those folks are few from far, and I doubt I would pose any danger to them.

Why do I advocate so much about coming out to check out the lights? - so you can be rest assured that, i'm not a dumb kid that's just out to 'show-off' his new found lights and to prove that my setup shouldn't annoy anyone.
 
If you get a chance, I really would like you to take that picture from about 100 feet, kneeling down to get the average drivers' line of sight. Your bike needs to be upright (probably need a volunteer to either sit on it or take the pic)
I think you'll be surprised.

~Alan
 
Modern sportsbike reflectors generally have a decent cutoff already, since bikes have a propensity for glare with halogen when going around corners. I installed an HID kit on my 600rr and was mightily impressed with the built-in cutoff, but to be safe I adjusted the beam down slightly anyway. If you crouch down in front of the bike in line with the light assembly you can't even see the capsule.

At night I can see a very clear cutoff line on the back of cars in front of me that is never high enough to hit their rear view mirrors.

If the install is done carefully and considerately, an HID kit will benefit a rider by a much greater factor than it will be a detriment to other road users.
 
nicebloke said:
Modern sportsbike reflectors generally have a decent cutoff already, since bikes have a propensity for glare with halogen when going around corners. I installed an HID kit on my 600rr and was mightily impressed with the built-in cutoff, but to be safe I adjusted the beam down slightly anyway. If you crouch down in front of the bike in line with the light assembly you can't even see the capsule.

At night I can see a very clear cutoff line on the back of cars in front of me that is never high enough to hit their rear view mirrors.

If the install is done carefully and considerately, an HID kit will benefit a rider by a much greater factor than it will be a detriment to other road users.
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Couldn't have written it better myself. :cool
 
Why are we talking about 'modern sportbikes'?
We're talking about Stan's bike, and Stan's application.
This picture tells the whole story:
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It has nothing to do with the angle of the bike for this particular picture...they are close enough for comparison.
The problem is that big hump of light that is now present with the HID kit which was not there with the halogen.
What Stan pointed out (about the ground being much better illuminated) is absolutely awesome! What isn't awesome is that rediculous concentration of light above where the cutoff was engineered to be.

There are kits out there that will illuminate the road the same way without casting so much high intensity glare at oncoming traffic.

Stan: I wouldn't even try askign you to take off that kit and try another. What I'd like is for the next adventurer to do some more research and try a more bike-friendly kit instead of seing just your praise and deciding to go with the same kit you have.

Enjoy your newfound light!

~Alan
 
SPORTcoupe said:
Why are we talking about 'modern sportbikes'?
We're talking about Stan's bike, and Stan's application.
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Fair enough - Stan's cutoff is certainly not as good as I've seen on other bikes (mine included), and could do with some attention.

I was generalizing about modern sportsbikes because that seems to be the primary market for accessories like this.
 
I love my new light! I rode directly side by side with a LEO last night and I waved to him and he waved back! OMGHI2U!!1!!!!1!!!!!!
 
I just installed mine 2 days ago, got the h7 hid off ebay for $120 shipped, its off the hook on how much brighter HID'S are compared to stock, they really are cheaper than before, the one's I got are the same plug and play like stans............
 
the day i got my bike i ordered an HID for my bike. I love it. everyone can see me when i'm riding (everyone in cars). i can see everything in front of me and on the road. I got my H7 from my friend. I just put in a order for a H4. Now its gonna be even brighter.
 
props to you stan for takin all this abuse lol, but honestly i would much rather be seen and annoy a couple of people for a fraction of a second, then to not be seen until its too late.

thanks to your thread, i think there is going to be one more illegal light set-up out on the road
 
bikernoob23 said:
props to you stan for takin all this abuse lol, but honestly i would much rather be seen and annoy a couple of people for a fraction of a second, then to not be seen until its too late.

thanks to your thread, i think there is going to be one more illegal light set-up out on the road
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The Mille is long gone (sold that for a hefty profit) :cool

As for HIDs, My stock headlight has a projector beam type housing, and i'm sure I can get another kit, and it would produce no glare.. However, I am satisfied with my Ducati's stock headlights. (don't ride too much at night to give a damn)

This was a fun thread though.
 
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bikernoob23 said:
props to you stan for takin all this abuse lol, but honestly i would much rather be seen and annoy a couple of people for a fraction of a second, then to not be seen until its too late.

thanks to your thread, i think there is going to be one more illegal light set-up out on the road
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If this HID kit is for your '02 R6 then you're going to need H4's. With that said you're going to either need bi-xenon or a regular kit but you lose your high-beams.

I actually ran Philips Vision Plus bulbs in my '01 R6 and had great results. It didn't have the "cool bluish" tint but it did give great candle output.

I'm running Osram Silverstars in my '06 GSXR and although it is a little brighter than stock, it is not as good as the Vision Plus bulbs.

Good luck with your set up.
 
i tihnk youre confused

SUPER HYPHY RR said:
the day i got my bike i ordered an HID for my bike. I love it. everyone can see me when i'm riding (everyone in cars). i can see everything in front of me and on the road. I got my H7 from my friend. I just put in a order for a H4. Now its gonna be even brighter.
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gettting H4s will not make it brighter, you wont even be able to use it if the one youre using is h7 right now
 
SPORTcoupe said:
It's illegal, period.
Your increased safety is at the cost of the safety of others.

Cheers,
~Alan
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Its not illegal. It was never illegal. It will never be illegal. People do your own research. Anyone can post anything they want on the net.


-Ashby
 
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