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How hard is it to replace fork seals?

RogueDivine

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1994 nighthawk 250
Hello guys I just wanted some input from people with real world experience; should I pay a shop to replace fork seals and replace brake fluid or is that stuff that I should do on my own without experience? I just really don’t want to mess something up that could end up costing me. Thank you in advance!
 
I have someone with experience and the tools to do fork seals.

I’m comfortable replacing brake fluid. Only a couple of tools and a little time.
 
There are probably lots of people who would like to help and give advice while you do the actual work. Where are you? Have you made an introduction in the new reform?
 
fork seals is how I found BARF, I was looking on line for instructions and found them here. Had never done them before but followed the instructions and replaced them myself. This was on damping rod forks.
 
If it’s your 94 nighthawk 250, that is a damper rod fork and very simple construction. Inside there is fork spring, damper rod, top out spring and oil lock piece. Sometimes the damper rod just spins when you try to remove the bottom bolt to separate the fork tube from the fork outer. Here’s a special tool for that. Put tapered end down fork tube into damper rod and it will usually provide enough resistance to break the M8 bottom bolt loose. I think I got this one from Home Depot. Sometimes you got to whittle the taper to fit. This actually works better than the one race tech sells. DONT pry the fork seal up by resting against the edge of the outer tube, you may damage it. You can pry it up gently and slowly with a wide blade screw driver with a wood shim between the tool and the outer fork. It’s pretty simple and can be done pretty much with hands tools if you don’t want to invest in a fork vise and seal driver.
 

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Hello guys I just wanted some input from people with real world experience; should I pay a shop to replace fork seals and replace brake fluid or is that stuff that I should do on my own without experience? I just really don’t want to mess something up that could end up costing me. Thank you in advance!
If you can answer how you are planning on supporting your bike while the forks are off and get them off (front wheel, brake caliper etc....) then you can probably do it.

The trickiest thing with damper rod forks is like was mentioned before stopping the damper rod from spinning inside while you remove the bottom bolt. I will usually use an impact while the fork is assembled to break it loose....
 
Honda parts fiche shows a center stand for the cb250 but it may have been optional? If it’s there pretty easy to support the bike with a jack under the front engine mount and pull your front wheel,fender and forks. Loosen top clamp and then break fork cap loose as it’s much harder after forks off bike. After fork removed unscrew fork cap with your hand above so it doesn’t fly out and remove some human parts. Getting ahead of myself here. The fiche shows oil drain screws on the bottom out side of the fork outer/ slider. You could drain from there first by putting a drain pan there, removing the screw and pumping the forks up & Dow. Or continue and drain when fork cap off. If you do that the spring will come out so prepare to catch it when you invert the forks off bike. At this point I usually invert the fork and prop it up so it can drain for 15-20 minutes. Then you’ll want to take an impact with a 6mm Allen bit I believe and remove the bottom bolt. If you don’t have access to an impact driver use a long breaker bar will you shop assistant jams the damper rod with you custom made broom handle.
Sometimes the copper seal washer will remain up in the fork but a pick will usually retrieve it. Advise you replace that seal washer after clean that area and bolt. As I don’t see any replaceable slider bushings on the fiche you should be able to pull the fork tube out and the damper rod will fall out with the top out spring. If you go to any Honda dealers website that gives access to the parts listings you can see how all these parts go together. There will also be a cylindrical conical piece at the bottom inside the fork outer or it may be stuck inside the bottom of the fork tube. Clean everything with contact cleaner or mineral spirits and then run an old T-shirt rag thru the fork tube and the fork outer until it’s clean. Fork tube should be free of nicks or gouges in the surface. I polish chrome fork tubes with Simichrome metal polish. It will get all the grit out and help reduce friction between the tube and the seals. The upper or dust seal will come out with a careful pry with a flat blade screw driver. Under that you should see the bent looking clip that holds the fork seal in place. There’s usually 4 kinks in the clip where you can use a pick or small screwdriver the remove it. Start at one end and it will come out by the 3rd kink. Slide it off the tube, DONT pull it apart to remove from the side. Now you should be able to pry out the fork seal. I have a aluminum jaw vise so I drop the fork below the plane of the vise top and can pry using the edge of the vise. If you don’t have something similar you can use a long wide blade screwdriver. Put the blade under the seal lip and support the screwdriver with something, wood shim or several folds of cloth and pry carefully. The seal should stat coming up and pop out. There should be a big flat washer under. Remove and thoroughly clean the area the new seal will go in.
If you stayed with me this far the rest is easy or as the service manual says assembly is the reverse of disassembly. After everything clean, take the damper rod with,apply a little fork oil on the plastic piston ring at the top of the rod and the slide the top out spring on from the bottom. Hold fork tube horizontal and slide the damper rod in. Use the damper rod holder (broomstick) to push the rod to the bottom. The damper rod should protrude from yea bottom of the fork tube.slide the oil lock on, tapered end goes into the fork tube. Then the whole works goes into the fork outer. Do this held horizontal until fork stops. Look into hole where bottom bolt goes, you should see the threads of the damper rod if it’s all seated correct. I use the broom stick to spin it to make sure everything in place. Install bottom bolt/seal washer into damper rod and torque to 25 lbs/ft. Once again may have to use broomstick to prevent spin. Now stand up verticallyfork tube bottomed out. A big vise with soft jaws is preferable but even a wood working vise would work. Wrap some vinyl electrical tape around the top edge of the fork tube after you drop the big flat washer onto the fork tube, bevel edge down. Then use a small amount of light seal grease or fork oil inside the seal lips and rotate it carefully onto the fork tube. Push it as far down as you can. If you have a seal driver you can easily seat it until u can clearly see the land for the clip. If you have driver u will hear the change in impact sound when the seal is seated. Install the clip making sure it’s in the groove all the way. Then you can just push the dust seal on. Pour in the required amount of fork oil, then the spring and cap, done.
 
We used to stick a broom handle down the fork tube to put pressure on the damper rod and then use an air impact to loosen the screw.
 
And if you cannot ever get the damper rod loose, you can carefully pound a screwdriver into the seal, pry it out and remove it



off the top. You will then need a seal driver to install the new seal. Take the old seal to the hardware store, and find a piece of pvc pipe or a pvc fitting that is just under the diameter of the seal. I then cut the fitting in half lengthwise, hold the pieces over the seal and tap the seal in using a plastic or rubber hammer. Don't use a metal hammer as that might damage and pit the fork leg. If only a metal hammer is available, have a friend hold a piece of 2x4 against the fitting so you won't hammer near the tube and dent it.
Good luck!

P. S. A T fitting gives you some wings to beat on. Also be careful not to damage the top of the fork lower when prying.
 
Hello guys I just wanted some input from people with real world experience; should I pay a shop to replace fork seals and replace brake fluid or is that stuff that I should do on my own without experience? I just really don’t want to mess something up that could end up costing me. Thank you in advance!
Depends on your bike. Older damper rod forks are insanely easy to service. Frankly it can be done with basic home tools other than maybe needing an impact wrench to break the damper rod nut loose at the bottom. Shout out to MotoGuild: they have all the expertise and tools needed if you wanted a safety net. I made the plunge and paid for a few hours there years ago when my track bike’s fork seals gave up the ghost and they were SUPER helpful in walking me through the process. IMO fork maintenance is one of those things that, if you take a little time to learn how to do it, will save you SO MUCH MONEY in the long run.
 
RogueDevine, you might search youtube for videos on fork rebuilds, disassembly/assembly, or just fork seal replacement. Search for a video with the same or similar year and model bike you have. Do a more general search for replacing motorcycle brake fluid. The videos will give you a good idea on whether or not you'll want to tackle projects like these.
 
Search YouTube for Dave Moss fork seal replacement - there are other videos as well.
Always take apart one side at a time so you can refer to the other side if needed.
You can do this!
 
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