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How many checkpoints catch no DUIs?

}Dragon{ said:
Does that make the breath test a pain in the ass or what??? :laughing

"Keep farting until I say stop!"
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:rofl "and, just keep the straw....."

Ya haven't lived until you've arrested a guy with a tampon string hanging out his ass.
 
It was a great case....... there were no loose strings.
 
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Nick said:
The logic isn't even close to the same. How would a cop know someone is going to speed before they speed?
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Of course the logic is the same. Sometimes you see cops parked on the side of the road prominently in view to discurage speeders, slow down traffic. And sometimes they hide so they can give out tickets.

I bet that far more good could be done by having all the personnel involved in a DUI checkpoint actually out patrolling and catching drunk drivers. At the checkpoint that the OP referenced not one DUI was given on a _Saturday night_.

Hiding to ticket speeders makes money. Catching drunk drivers just saves lives (and probably costs money). So there's the real logic.

How about that man in Texas that was arrested for holding a sign warning drivers about a speed trap up ahead? He fought it in court and we'll know the outcome Feb 21.
 
Hoppalong said:
Of course the logic is the same. Sometimes you see cops parked on the side of the road prominently in view to discurage speeders, slow down traffic. And sometimes they hide so they can give out tickets.
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If you are driving fast enough that you can't see the cop car, does that count as hiding?

I bet that far more good could be done by having all the personnel involved in a DUI checkpoint actually out patrolling and catching drunk drivers. At the checkpoint that the OP referenced not one DUI was given on a _Saturday night_.
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The idea behind a DUI checkpoint is to #1 make people think about it (public awareness), #2 to deter it and #3 to arrest people who are so drunk that can't take a hint. You know all the bartenders in town will tell everyone about the checkpoint.

It has been shown that a DUI enforcement patrols (extra cops in a concentrated area) usually makes more arrests than a checkpoint, however it's not a deterrent...
 
Nick said:
And if they lose the car, the driver crashes and kills someone, then the dept is held liable for letting him get behind the wheel knowing he was too drunk to drive?

The goal isn't catching drunk drivers. The goal is keeping drunk drivers off the road. That's why checkpoints are as much an public awareness and deterrent as they are an enforcement action.
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Then stop them the moment they turn on the car.

You really think a pre-announced DUI checkpoint deters ANYONE from drinking and driving? Hell, being arrested MULTIPLE TIMES doesn't even deter some people from drinking and driving. I think visibly camping outside of bars/restaurants would deter at least a few from trying it. More than hoping a couple will be stupid enough to stumble into one of the checkpoints.
 
DaveT319 said:
Then stop them the moment they turn on the car.

You really think a pre-announced DUI checkpoint deters ANYONE from drinking and driving? Hell, being arrested MULTIPLE TIMES doesn't even deter some people from drinking and driving. I think visibly camping outside of bars/restaurants would deter at least a few from trying it. More than hoping a couple will be stupid enough to stumble into one of the checkpoints.
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I'm gonna guess the resident LEOs have far more statistics on that topic to say yay or nay to that?
 
Every weekend I see Dui alert post from friends that live in the bay area. I think there is actually an app as well... to me Dui check points are fairly pointless considering today's social media. I really wouldn't be surprised if the data shows a decline in Dui arrest at these check points over the last 5 years. LEO might need to think of a new more productive approach to check points.
 
Rel said:
Sometimes, but you have to remember, we advertise where and when the checkpoint will be held. Only the truly drunk will pull in OR the drunk who thinks they can slip one by us.
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Or is it they are just not effective and a waste of money?
 
DaveT319 said:
I think visibly camping outside of bars/restaurants would deter at least a few from trying it.
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In a traffic school class I attended, the LEO that taught the class talked about waiting outside bars at closing time. But not doing it visibly for deterent, but to bust them and try to get them off the road more permanently (which I'm all for). So I know it was done by at least one LEO in Santa Clara some years ago.
 
I don't cherry pick the bars at closing time for DUIs. I will park visibly in front to make sure people aren't going to start brawling, but camping down the road waiting for them to leave the lot is like baiting deer when hunting. No sport in it....
 
DaveT319 said:
Then stop them the moment they turn on the car.

You really think a pre-announced DUI checkpoint deters ANYONE from drinking and driving?
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Actually yes.......

We had a check point not to long ago that happen to have been a few miles down the road from two of the few bars in the area. After the checkpoint was concluded we found out from the local cab companies that the cab company had more requests for cabs that night then they ever had.

Perhaps we saved a life that night, perhaps not, but I can tell you know one died that night.
 
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