I’m raising money to build a Muslim gay bar next to the Ground Zero mosque

[T-1 Thunder]

Oh.......so they are tearing down the old ones?

Good question.

If this new one is to centralize the others, surely the others are coming down?

 

[gixxerjoeca]

Haha you guys are funny, they arent tearing down any mosques.

 

[Mr.Furious]

Can't, need the money to bomb Afghanistan.

 

[kevin 714]

i dont know if they are tearing them down or not, but the neitre reason for the very large cultural center is because there is a need for it. supply and demand, the guys arent ´just building omne to have no one in it. theres a verty large musslim population in the area and clearly there is a want-need-desire for this.

 

[greener]

All your foaming about a new mosque while invoking the spectre of religious terrorism, well in this case you're attacking what you claim doesn't exist, the moderate Muslim.

'Ground Zero Mosque' Imam Was A Bush-Era Partner For Mideast Peace

"His work on tolerance and religious diversity is well-known and he brings a moderate perspective to foreign audiences on what it's like to be a practicing Muslim in the United States," State Department spokesman P. J. Crowley said Tuesday. He added that the department's public-diplomacy offices "have a long-term relationship with" Rauf - including during the past Bush administration, when the religious leader undertook a similar speaking tour.

...

the Bush Administration saw improving America's standing among Muslims abroad as a part of its national security strategy.

 

[greener]

Why don't you waterheads get your donations ready to fight this REAL threat to our way of life.. the mosque inside the Pentagon.

Pentagon observes Muslim holy month

Navy imam Chaplain Abuhena M. Saifulislam lifted his voice to God as he called to prayer more than 100 Department of Defense employees Monday at a celebration of Ramadan at the Pentagon.

 

[Arminius]

Interesting editorial:

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called "religious rights."

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to "the reasonable" Muslim demands for their "religious rights," they also get the other components under the table.Here's how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

United States -- Muslim 1.0%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1%-2%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2. 7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halaal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" -- the Isla mic House of Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that's not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

"Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world. And all of us against the infidel. -- Leon Uris, "The Haj"

It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat..

Worth watching with exception of the comments of the gospel crap at the end: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76hbD6X4xLs&feature=related

 

[T-1 Thunder]

Wow, Blue. Thanks for the informative post.

I notice if you compare the deathcount worldwide with the % numbers above, the higher % areas seem to have the most killings. The lower the %, the less deaths the area experiences from extreme Islam killings in the name of Allah. Very interesting.

 

[greener]

Interesting editorial:

A quick google search on the author generates about 5 facepalms per minute.
And you bring this a-hole into a KS debate? Please ban yourself.

 

[T-1 Thunder]

Don't shoot the messenger. Are you disagreeing with the FACTS posted? If so, please post your own facts to disprove.

 

[greener]

Hey T-1, what did you think of the two articles I posted?
You seem to have skipped right over them to pat super-troll on the back for copy-pasting the discredited work of a provincial bigot. Sad.

 

[planegray]

On the global scale, terrorism -- specifically the collective actions of Islamic extermists -- is a rather small and not very significant issue because in the past several decades we've lost no more than 30K thousand people due to the actions of brain-washed lunatics. As unfortunate as it is, this number of lives lost is pale in comparison to the number of victims of the Catholic church or the number of folks who die from flu and in vehicle accidents on a yearly basis. And yet people do not complain about churches located next to school and nobody objects new roads around the country.

If you're concrned about people's well-being, stop the security and "us vs. them" theater and concentrate on real issues, like fighting cancer and heart disease. And if you want this country to be a beacon of light in this fucked up world, then you should accept the fact that tolerance is a two-way street and this means that you have to respect other peoples' opinions and rights, especially the ones that you do not like.

+1

You're seriously comparing disease to dying a violent death and the beheadings going on around the globe? :crazy

It's called "perspective"

Some have it, (though it can be learned, if the desire is there) and some don't.

The difference between those who acknowledge/ enjoy/ seek perspective, and those who fear/ hide/ ignore it is kinda spelled out in some Dead lyrics; "some folks trust to reason, others trust to might/ some folks look for answers, others look for fights"


Interesting post Blu...thanks

 

[Arminius]

Hey T-1, what did you think of the two articles I posted?
You seem to have skipped right over them to pat super-troll on the back for copy-pasting the discredited work of a provincial bigot. Sad.

Did I call you any names? You seem to be the one with the problem(s). You violated the TOS the last time you posted to one of my posts, but your buddy mod's give you a pass like they always have. *middle finger*

Like T-1 said, don't blame the messenger. If you think the information is bogus then prove your case.

 

[some_random_guy]

This whole thread reeks of ignorance, hate, and bigotry. First off, this is California, not New York, second off, the few of you who show how intolerant you are, seem to be forgetting about the fact that this country has rights, and if you don't want to let others have those same rights you all so "valiantly" fight for, so others around the world have those rights as well, then you're no better than the Insurgants who fight for Osama, or who fight to maintain Sharia law.

If someone wanted to build a gay bar next to a church some of you wild be like

It's Sunday, rather than arguing about issues that don't concern us because they aren't directly affecting US, go out with your families, or friends and have fun.

 

[Arminius]

This whole thread reeks of ignorance, hate, and bigotry. First off, this is California, not New York, second off, the few of you who show how intolerant you are, seem to be forgetting about the fact that this country has rights, and if you don't want to let others have those same rights you all so "valiantly" fight for, so others around the world have those rights as well, then you're no better than the Insurgants who fight for Osama, or who fight to maintain Sharia law.

If someone wanted to build a gay bar next to a church some of you wild be like

It's Sunday, rather than arguing about issues that don't concern us because they aren't directly affecting US, go out with your families, or friends and have fun.

Do I think "they" have a right to build a mosque so close to ground zero? Yes, absolutely. Do I think they should? No, absolutely not. If "they" had any respect or concern for what "others" think about Islam, "they" should be a little more considerate where they choose to worship. And, I find it funny to hear an admitted Muslim complain about intolerance.

 

[greener]

Did I call you any names? You seem to be the one with the problem(s). You violated the TOS the last time you posted to one of my posts, but your buddy mod's give you a pass like they always have. *middle finger*

Like T-1 said, don't blame the messenger. If you think the information is bogus then prove your case.

You call yourself 'shit stirrer', I said super-troll. *shrug*

I did violate the TOS last time I posted in your thread in which you stooped so low as to talk shit about another barfer's kid. I have the same opinion of you now as I did then. The mods didn't spare me, they chose to delete the entire thread because of how many good barfers reacted to your fucked up statement. I'm glad you brought that up, I hope it reminds everyone involved what kind of character you have.
I give you a few months before you again self-destruct. arty

 

[Arminius]

You call yourself 'shit stirrer', I said super-troll. *shrug*

I did violate the TOS last time I posted in your thread in which you stooped so low as to talk shit about another barfer's kid. I have the same opinion of you now as I did then. The mods didn't spare me, they chose to delete the entire thread because of how many good barfers reacted to your fucked up statement. I'm glad you brought that up, I hope it reminds everyone involved what kind of character you have.
I give you a few months before you again self-destruct. arty

Eldritch first called me a shit stirrer, so I decided to embrace it. Everyone in the KS is a shit stirrer or else they wouldn't be posting here.

I give you a few days before you call someone else a name... after all, it is your style to initiate the name calling.

I already said my apologies to those that deserved it.

 

[planegray]

I'd MUCH prefer not having to go through the discipline process for TOS violations...I appreciate you guys staying in control

"we have met the enemy, and he is us"
Walt Kelly

 

[some_random_guy]

Do I think "they" have a right to build a mosque so close to ground zero? Yes, absolutely. Do I think they should? No, absolutely not. If "they" had any respect or concern for what "others" think about Islam, "they" should be a little more considerate where they choose to worship. And, I find it funny to hear an admitted Muslim complain about intolerance.

Oh so because some people have a problem with it, they shouldn't build it? This proves once again how a minority of people makes the majority of decisions. You wanna tell me why it's ok for us to violate their rights, but it's not ok if we violate someone else's? If these people were preaching death to America, then I myself wouldn't even support it, but they aren't, so wtf is the problem. It's not on GZ, there are mosques in the same vicinity, which no one is bitching about, why not tear those down as well? Better yet, tear down ever religious place within the vicinity.

SO what if I'm Muslim? have an issue with that? don't worry I'm not the type that blows himself up for 72 virgins. I'm an American FIRST, and as an American, I have rights, just as much as you have, so please stop being a hateful bigot because it's making myself and many others in this wonderful country, embarrassed that people like you exist in a country built with the hands of those who died so EVERYONE no matter who it is, had freedom.

 

[gixxerjoeca]

Silly people, keep drinking the koolaid!