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I wonder what these American citizens will do when they grow up

teg916 said:
I have no problem with illegals being deported, but deporting a mother and not giving her the right to keep her children is not right. Deporting a mother and putting her kids in foster care, seriously? If something like that ever happened to me there would be blood on my hands.
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Yeah, take yer crotch fruit anchor baby with ya 'n GTFO! :rofl
 
and if we deported them both, we'd get double butthurt sympathy from those who support the mexican slave trade
 
well the best stats in the article says they do this to about 80,000 families a year now, so, count on that coming due like Kill Bill some day
 
teg916 said:
I have no problem with illegals being deported, but deporting a mother and not giving her the right to keep her children is not right. Deporting a mother and putting her kids in foster care, seriously? If something like that ever happened to me there would be blood on my hands.
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Hey pal, I live in Panama now on a passport and tourist visa which means I have to leave the country every six months...Costa rican border is less than an hour away and always a fun time.

The point I'm getting at is Panama doesn't fuck around when it comes to immigration, as do most other countries except for the great US of A. You have to play by the rules or except the consequences. In the US the rules are so vague and fucked up it's a fucking laughing stock of jokes.
 
teg916 said:
I have no problem with illegals being deported, but deporting a mother and not giving her the right to keep her children is not right. Deporting a mother and putting her kids in foster care, seriously? If something like that ever happened to me there would be blood on my hands.
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They are not forcing the kids into foster care. She can take them along. There are way too many mothers coming into the US in the last month of pregnancy, showing up at e rooms demanding care at birth, and giving birth to "citizens."
 
afm199 said:
They are not forcing the kids into foster care. She can take them along. There are way too many mothers coming into the US in the last month of pregnancy, showing up at e rooms demanding care at birth, and giving birth to "citizens."
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...or potential Presidents of the greatest nation in history.

:laughing
 
teg916 said:
I have no problem with illegals being deported, but deporting a mother and not giving her the right to keep her children is not right. Deporting a mother and putting her kids in foster care, seriously? If something like that ever happened to me there would be blood on my hands.
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We have a responsibility to protect American Citizens not yet of adult age. We don't have a lot of choice here. This is WHY the 14th needs to be changed. In the meantime, the only choice that makes sense is to take the children into custody.
 
Panamahaha said:
...or potential Presidents of the greatest nation in history.

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Funny thing is, we have PLENTY of potential presidents! Oddly enough the world and the US already have PLENTY of PEOPLE> If there's one thing there's no shortage of.................
 
I'm all for enforcing immigration law, but there's got to be a better way of doing it.

To deport people who should not be in the country in the first place is to admit that your control over your borders is crappy. People who've made a life for themselves here shouldn't be forced to pay for our shitty policy.

We need to shut the border down hard. Berlin wall-type shit. Minefields, dog runs, kill-zones, everything. I am so not kidding.
 
Dr. Evil said:
I'm all for enforcing immigration law, but there's got to be a better way of doing it.

To deport people who should not be in the country in the first place is to admit that your control over your borders is crappy. People who've made a life for themselves here shouldn't be forced to pay for our shitty policy.

We need to shut the border down hard. Berlin wall-type shit. Minefields, dog runs, kill-zones, everything. I am so not kidding.
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And remove or eliminate all who have violated our laws regarding said border once it is sealed.
 
As bad as it sound to be ripping families apart they knew the risk and took the gamble.

If you break the law you are a fugitive until caught. Accept that you got away with it as long as you did. Pay the price and hope that you travelled light so as to ease your adjustment.

I've know people in this situation and I couldn't imagine living like that with how much they had to lose. Its a kick in the nuts to those that follow the rules.
 
teg916 said:
I have no problem with deporting them, but keep them together. Eldritch, I 100% disagree.
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Absolutely not, you can NOT make exceptions regarding the rights of our citizens to be protected from having their rights as citizens revoked by the government. The children of these criminals are Americans and we as Americans have a responsibility to protect them. In a free society, one must NEVER disregard the sanctity of citizenship by allowing that sanctity to be violated by situational suppression from the State. Now I am 100% behind fixing the 14th in order to CEASE allowing these criminals to create citizens who are a burden to us as a nation, but all the same, we can not just throw citizens out of our nation simply because they were LEGALLY given citizenship through an unfortunate loophole in the law created to protect people who were rightfully a part of our society.
 
Sounds cold, but it's a risk they take by coming here illegally and making sure their kids are citizens.

Honestly, though, a lot of those kids likely have a better chance in foster care than they do in many Central American countries. So many gangs and violence and corruption. The American foster and orphan system ain't glamorous, but it's better than being given a gun at 13 to defend your new "family" of broken people.

Only way I see this being "fixed" is is they alter the whole citizenship by birth rule. If kids weren't citizens by merely being born here, or became them once they were 18, we'd have less women coming across the border to bear them.
They are people, yes...and I feel for their plight in their home country, but we have to take care of our country's people, first. Our children, our veterans, our elderly. No citizen should have to wait behind someone here illegally for food or medical care, only to be given a part of their portion anyhow.
 
Some of the shit you guys say is rudiculous. I agree control the immigration situation but are you guys that damn ignorant as to how this country runs. Look at what happened in the south they tried to come down hard on immigrants, 'oh my baby jesus those criminals'. Those 'crcriminals left and those cracker farmers couldnt do shit with their land. They tried to hire sone cracker rednecks to do the work but surprise surprise those fatass LAZY white folk couldnt handle the hard work. Imagine some crap heppening here in California.

Im a son of an immigrant. Never have i gone to welfare never unemployment. I served this country in the US Army and my Brother still serves in the Navy. Are we not American you going to deport me. Im brown and fucking proud of it. Careful what you guys wish for
 
Oh and those criminals still pay taxes. In case you ignorant folk dont know. And they dont get any money back like those folk down in the trailer park.
 
its not just a matter of being ignorant at how the country runs. it's damn near Gestapo Boosterism to talk academically about how cool you are with our Govt invading a family's home and tearing children from the arms of their mothers and fathers as they drag them off to various gulags. Say what you will about the Catholic Church, at least they stand prominently against such atrocity
 
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