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Jeffrey Epstein "Suicide"

There are no doubt people who are glad Epstein is dead and hopeful that his death reduces the chance that they will be held to account for something they did.

That said, Epstein had a lot of reasons to want to die. Even if he feels no remorse, he had a lot of reasons. No more lavish lifestyle; private jets, private islands, socializing with the wealthy and powerful. No more three orgasms a day, at least not for himself. All this replaced by an embarrassing trial, a certain conviction and the rest of his life either being abused by other prisoners or in isolation.

So, he wanted out. And he had nothing but time to wait for a gap in monitoring to kill himself.
 
Don't conspiracy theories thrive after all the facts that could be uncovered are out?

The autopsy results have not been released. The prison will probably be investigated next.
 
tzrider said:
There are no doubt people who are glad Epstein is dead and hopeful that his death reduces the chance that they will be held to account for something they did.

That said, Epstein had a lot of reasons to want to die. Even if he feels no remorse, he had a lot of reasons. No more lavish lifestyle; private jets, private islands, socializing with the wealthy and powerful. No more three orgasms a day, at least not for himself. All this replaced by an embarrassing trial, a certain conviction and the rest of his life either being abused by other prisoners or in isolation.

So, he wanted out. And he had nothing but time to wait for a gap in monitoring to kill himself.
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Yup! This! ^^^
 
HappyHighwayman said:
What are the choices?
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It seems like in your argument in opposition of conspiracy theories you agree with why someone could perceive it to be a conspiracy

:laughing

EPSTEIN COMMITTED SUICIDE
CONSPIRACY THEORIES ARE A FOOLS GAME

hey guys, look at all the ways someone could come up with a plausible reason as to why they believe this to be a coverup

or do you just wish to argue from both sides of your mouth?
 
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I believe in a lot of things. Do I think UFOs exist? Yes. There are objects spotted that the person cannot identify. Do I think they are alien flying saucers spending unlimited resources to travel a billion miles to buzz military planes? Not without evidence.

Do I believe people have been assassinated to keep them quiet? Yes. Do I believe he committed suicide in this case? Also yes. Is there evidence of foul play? You tell me.

Does that clarify my opinion?
 
HappyHighwayman said:
Do I believe people have been assassinated to keep them quiet? Yes. Do I believe he committed suicide in this case? Also yes. Is there evidence of foul play? You tell me.
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Is there evidence of foul play...

It's been what, 2 days? In one of the hottest cases and most politically charged case in a very long time

exactly what evidence have you seen? Cause I've seen 0. We don't even really know how he died at this point in time.

We do know:
he attempted suicide a few weeks ago
he was housed in 9S at MCC
he was removed from suicide watch
he is dead

From ancillary means we know:
9S is very hard to commit suicide at
he was prematurely removed from SW
 
Also that the guards were tired from a lot of overtime and to be honest do they really care?

How many of the 200+ suicides in jail result in punishment?
 
keep moving them goal posts

again, I am not saying anything nefarious happened here

I'm just having the conversation
 
What goal posts?

Do you have evidence he didn't commit suicide or any foul play occurred, and if you do, why didn't you share it with the authorities?
 
HappyHighwayman said:
What goal posts?

Do you have evidence he didn't commit suicide or any foul play occurred, and if you do, why didn't you share it with the authorities?
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I assume you were there holding the candle while Epstein was suiciding himself?

Questioning authority is the right of a democratic society. It's not like socialist Canada.
 
mrzuzzo said:
I assume you were there holding the candle while Epstein was suiciding himself?

Questioning authority is the right of a democratic society. It's not like socialist Canada.
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That's a ridiculous jingoist thing to say.

Have fun with your echo chamber
 
mrzuzzo said:
Questioning authority is the right of a democratic society. It's not like socialist Canada.
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I think Occam's Razor is taking him to a different conclusion than it is you.

Just think a bit more about how difficult it would be to orchestrate either a hit or a "look the other way" for this prisoner and successfully cover it up. It's a given that people will be looking hard at that angle and it would be very, very hard to hide it.
 
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