...you mean about not doing business with a state enforcing "certain" laws that Ca wants you to ignore?
How whacked is that?
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Kawasaki wins CHP bid for 350 bikes
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...you mean about not doing business with a state enforcing "certain" laws that Ca wants you to ignore?
How whacked is that?
I don't recall seeing anything at the state level about that sort of thing...just at the city levels.
NorCalBusa
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I can't cite a referral, but yeah- that's the deal as I heard it.
Edit- Taser is also based in AZ.
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RolnCode3
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Heard a CHP motor calling for a tow for his bike the other day. Clutch was gone. He was griping about that happening when your bike has 92000 miles. The other motor responded: mine has 105000. End of conversation.
Looks like we need to do some education about Title13 with that Kawi bike, re: split-color/flash lightheads! I think 4 Whelen M4's (I think that's what they are) all flashing together on the back is borderline overkill. Better ways to set those up.
FreeRyde
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There is a reason for that.
NorCalBusa
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For sure. As that was in Phoenix and an AZ agency- no Title 13 there bro. I think those might be M6's, look a little big for 4's BWDIK? And the Vertex (red/blue in the nose) ain't Title 13 in anything but amber.
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Stolen from stovepipe on another forum.
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I may or may not have heard and or seen a picture of a certain motorcycle at a certain law enforcement agency headquarters.
HOLY SHIT did i just see a motocop wearing a full-faced modular helmet? Department issue? would think that would be standard but "tradition" is hard to break right?
Tharkûn
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CHP Two Up
You mean this picture?
Nope
Nope.
Yamaha R1. Seen a picture of the CHP testing it two up ...
You mean this picture?
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The new solution for an economical graveyard vehicle? I think I'll stay on days, lol.
ST Guy
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Hmmmm......if, in the effort to get the contract, they end up putting a larger fuel tank on the thing and upgrade the alternator, AND those two improvements transfer over to the civilian version, I'd be really tempted to get one.
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The fuel tank looks unchanged, and the "alternator" solution IIRC is instead a separate additional battery...
So
To be perfectly honest, I love my connie. I wouldn't trade if for an RT Bimmer or an ST1300. But as a police bike, I think the RT and ST are better: bigger alternators, much less valve check maintinence cost.
NorCalBusa
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Depends. CHP's specs call for the battery to run a bunch of lights and radios for xx minutes, and charging system performance criteria too. That the bike is on to radio (antenna) qualifying- means they passed the mechanical bike (and all other) portions. Radio is the last step before the first 20 are ordered up- from what I know.
And if it fails the radio test, they can always treat the mucky-mucks in Sacto to an all expense paid junket to the factory - with a lay-over in Paris - to learn why the bike deserves a waiver.
NorCalBusa
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silversvs
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Honestly, it's not the bike's fault.
Even full sized modern sedans aren't going to present the best groundplane to a VHF low band antenna. A motorcycle doesn't have a chance. An ideal groundplane at those frequencies is nearly 6' in diameter.
To work around this, one could use a vertical dipole or end-fed half-wave antenna, but such antennas aren't practical on a motorcycle for the frequencies that CHP has been using since 1950. Those frequencies were still in common use then because it was difficult to manufacture vacuum tubes with good characteristics that operated fast enough to go any higher.
The real solution would be a true modernization of their radio system. But they haven't even gotten new radio equipment since the late 1980s. That's in process, but the state really appears to be obsessed with fixing it all at once, and the larger the project gets the harder it is to manage. The good news is, they aren't going to have it nearly as hard as these folks will when their project gets going: http://la-rics.org/
It's a real shame such a large, quality agency like CHP is left to make do.
Even full sized modern sedans aren't going to present the best groundplane to a VHF low band antenna. A motorcycle doesn't have a chance. An ideal groundplane at those frequencies is nearly 6' in diameter.
To work around this, one could use a vertical dipole or end-fed half-wave antenna, but such antennas aren't practical on a motorcycle for the frequencies that CHP has been using since 1950. Those frequencies were still in common use then because it was difficult to manufacture vacuum tubes with good characteristics that operated fast enough to go any higher.
The real solution would be a true modernization of their radio system. But they haven't even gotten new radio equipment since the late 1980s. That's in process, but the state really appears to be obsessed with fixing it all at once, and the larger the project gets the harder it is to manage. The good news is, they aren't going to have it nearly as hard as these folks will when their project gets going: http://la-rics.org/
It's a real shame such a large, quality agency like CHP is left to make do.
NorCalBusa
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That's the scary part
Inside baseball Johnny!
NorCalBusa
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Honestly, it's not the bike's fault.
Even full sized modern sedans aren't going to present the best groundplane to a VHF low band antenna. A motorcycle doesn't have a chance. An ideal groundplane at those frequencies is nearly 6' in diameter.
To work around this, one could use a vertical dipole or end-fed half-wave antenna, but such antennas aren't practical on a motorcycle for the frequencies that CHP has been using since 1950. Those frequencies were still in common use then because it was difficult to manufacture vacuum tubes with good characteristics that operated fast enough to go any higher.
The real solution would be a true modernization of their radio system. But they haven't even gotten new radio equipment since the late 1980s. That's in process, but the state really appears to be obsessed with fixing it all at once, and the larger the project gets the harder it is to manage. The good news is, they aren't going to have it nearly as hard as these folks will when their project gets going: http://la-rics.org/
It's a real shame such a large, quality agency like CHP is left to make do.
Not to get any further off than we are- but that Interoperability stuff became the rage post 9/11. Sounds great, but enormously expensive and frankly- I don't know that it will work any better. It relies on a Central Command, and I'm no tactician- but I think a splintered cell response may be more appropriate. There will be no way to manage effectively under one umbrella. Just about anyone knows more about it than me, so I yield.
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