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Knee Dragging or Power Sliding???

Robert R1

Robert R1

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Which one gives you more thrills. I used to love dragging knees but it's get repetitive and routine after a while. Rear tires slides, on the other hand still bring forth a Virgin smile every time. They are fun, esp. when you willingly give it too much gas exiting corners. Best tire combo, any Race Front and Dunlop street rear.

Let's hear your options.
 
Hmmm good question, and since I can't do either yet. I am gonna say that I will have more of an Ooohh shit look when I get to the point haha :p
 
If you've ever seen the Crazy Larry videos, you'll know what I mean... both at the same time :) Kneedragging while powersliding the rear tire around :laughing :laughing :laughing :green
 
The rear wheel slide is da cheese for my burger..
The knee on the ground is just a lean indicator brother!


:smoking
 
budmanR6 said:
The rear wheel slide is da cheese for my burger..
The knee on the ground is just a lean indicator brother!


:smoking
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My feelings exactly. The knee down doesn't really mean anything anymore, more likely than not, if my knee touches by accident, I picked a lousy line. The rear wheel sliding thing, I've only done at the track, and it kinda freaks me out. But it's cool to bully the bike around and just go through the slide on the gas. I guess that's the only thing you can do, otherwise you'll be ass-up in the air, right?

I'm not good enough to kick the end loose on purpose. I guess I'm a chicken, cuz everytime my VFR does that, I start crying.
 
I don't really do much of either on the street, but I slide the rear end all over the place in the dirt and it always gives me wood. Dragging knee is still pretty cool to me since I've done it exactly once now.
 
these days, i've seen so many people with titanium kneepucks dragging their knees on public roads just to get sparks and attention that its become amusing and annoying more than inspiring. the size of the titanium kneepucks are so huge, theyre like training wheels and i for one am not impressed, especially when their cornering speed isn't that great, their angle of lean is exaggerated, and theyre hanging off so much that in emergency situtation, theyve used up any options and more than often, anyone can take the same corner without dragging anything.
powersliding is an artform in itself where it shows the rider's ability to control the bike, momentum, and throttle input. i can slide the rear in the dirt ( no kidding ) but at low speeds, whereas i've seen great dirt riders and roadracers carry speeds sliding the rear which i only come close playing video games.
the ones that can drag their knees and slide the rear at the same time are awesome, to say the least
 
Fargin Icehole, yah know its kinda depressing... I can't touch a knee down for anything, and yet I seem to go faster than a fair number of the people who do touch their knees down (in something other than a crash :twofinger)
 
Fargin Icehole, yah know its kinda depressing... I can't touch a knee down for anything, and yet I seem to go faster than a fair number of the people who do touch their knees down (in something other than a crash )
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:laughing :laughing i know what ya mean. i followed a guy on a r1 with my xr650l down 84 and at the lights, he asked me how close his knees were to the ground and we were going the same pace. i just said, "um, you were right there like i was" he asked again at pescadero when we were going the same pace. i replied again, "um, getting there like i was" finally, i took lead, kept a good distance ahead of him, and at davenport at the restaurant, i asked how close my knees were to the ground:laughing :laughing he wasn't amused:x :laughing
 
morthrane said:
Fargin Icehole, yah know its kinda depressing... I can't touch a knee down for anything, and yet I seem to go faster than a fair number of the people who do touch their knees down (in something other than a crash :twofinger)
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It is riding style, I have riden with many people that drag knee but are slow as shit. I don't drag often but consider myself fairly fast. I barely hang a butt cheek off and don't throw my leg out. Everyone has a style that does or does not work for them.
 
When I first started racing 125s, the class champion was a guy who never dragged his knee. He'd go through an entire season and hardly scuff a set of sliders. It just reinforced the point with me ... just cause you can get it down, doesn't mean your fast.
 
When I first started racing dragging my knee was the biggest deal then when I started to keep up with some of the fast guys I noticed they didn't knee drag much if at all. When they did they would just touch the ground for a moment. Now when I can ride out of a fat controlled slide I have the biggest :teeth and relief that I didn't low side.
 
i hate dragging knee. it means i don't have much lean angle left. and, if i'm headed for the outside edge, then it means i'm gonna be screwed.

last time i went to t-hill in the very last session, i got some rear wheel slides setting up for a couple turns (of course not on purpose). it happened entering turns 11 and 14 real hot since there was virtually no one on the track. it was pretty freaky, being that it was my first time. but it gave me the same rush i had when i first got my knee down. made me feel like nori haga!
 
Just a thought. Couldn't lean angle, as well as sliding a knee also be indicative of the weight of a rider? For example, a lighter rider, can carry a higher rate of speed at less of a lean angle through a corner than a heavier one. Thus a heavier rider could hang off the machine more, to provide less of a lean angle, carry as much speed and use the knee as an indicator?

does that make sense?
And I'm not sure if this follows the same thread. Such is life.


As for power sliding, umm.. if I bereak the read end loose, it is gonna end up in front of me, and then bad things are going to happen.
 
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