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Let's hope this thread is short on Bay Area Fire Season

Definitely agree. I don't even want to tell you how I act when burning a pile and the smoke hits my face...I hold my breath and run for fresh air like a little princess. Definitely not cut out for what they do. I'd be more like Mort from Family Guy crying about my sinuses.
 
Apropos of this thread I received a notice from the Oregon Department of Forestry re: being in an area designated high risk, with some pointers on how to create more defensible space AND information on how to get someone from ODF here to perform a risk audit for me. My housemate and I are already talking about when to have them here, etc.
 
Way to change tact and ignore my response to your bs, Brett. I believe you.may be the biggest troll on barf.
 
Brokenlink said:
Way to change tact and ignore my response to your bs, Brett. I believe you.may be the biggest troll on barf.
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It does appear that PG&E have gone in a different direction with the new CEO.

But, historically, their record leaves a lot to be desired, especially when they received money to trim back trees around their lines and just pocketed it years ago.

I have no problem with rank and file members of PG&E and have a lot of respect for what they do, but the parent corp and execs have rewarded themselves for far too many years for their behavior to be forgiven anytime soon.

As to your statement, I've gotten suspensions for a less direct personal attack.
 
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New CEO says fines and legal costs don't drive up utility bills and that they choose to absorb those expenses from their profits. Seems legit.
 
Climber said:
It does appear that PG&E have gone in a different direction with the new CEO.

But, historically, their record leaves a lot to be desired, especially when they received money to trim back trees around their lines and just pocketed it years ago.

I have no problem with rank and file members of PG&E and have a lot of respect for what they do, but the parent corp and execs have rewarded themselves for far too many years for their behavior to be forgiven anytime soon.

As to your statement, I've gotten suspensions for a less direct personal attack.
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Then by all means feel free to report me.

Did PGE have a horrible record? Yes. Is there a book that documents all of this in very unflattering terms? Yes, it is called California Burning.

We were provided free copies and asked to read it and then had department level discussions to talk about the book and how we can use the lessons in it to guide our future as a company.

So you can sit back and say nothing that no changes. Then you can tell your slave to fix you dinner because nothing is ever learned and things never change right?
 
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New CEO says fines and legal costs don't drive up utility bills and that they choose to absorb those expenses from their profits. Seems legit.
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I remember reading that and laughing.

Even if it's true, anyone who owns an S&P 500 index fund owns some PG&E, and is therefore being hurt by that drop in profits

God forbid senior management suffer some consequences for once. Maybe a pay cut, or giving up their golden parachute? But no, that would be communist or something.
 
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According to PG&E's CEO, no wildfires were started this year by their infrastructure. It's a big step in the right direction, but the public memory is long (for some things, anyway). Hang in there, Mike.
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Kinda early days in the year though to be patting themselves on the back
 
Brokenlink said:
Then by all means feel free to report me.

Did PGE have a horrible record? Yes. Is there a book that documents all of this in very unflattering terms? Yes, it is called California Burning.

We were provided free copies and asked to read it and then had department level discussions to talk about the book and how we can use the lessons in it to guide our future as a company.

So you can sit back and say nothing that no changes. Then you can tell your slave to fix you dinner because nothing is ever learned and things never change right?
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I do hope that PG&E makes good on her promise, but CEO's have said things in the past but they have to answer to the board.

I get that you're butt-hurt when somebody says something bad about the company you work for, but decades of abuse, lies and destroyed records take awhile for people to believe in changes.
 
My oint was merely regarding your negative comment about them sending help. Would you rather they didn't? Do you expect it to be volunteer work? What have you done?
 
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Someone mentioned this earlier but I'd seen no reports of video of it as it sounded beyond dangerous for the flight crews.

www.smithsonianmag.com

Firefighting Planes Are Dumping Ocean Water on the Los Angeles Fires—Why Using Saltwater Is Typically a Last Resort

In Los Angeles,
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Firefighters battling the deadly wildfires that raced through the Los Angeles area in January 2025 have been hampered by a limited supply of freshwater. So, when the winds are calm enough, skilled pilots flying planes aptly named Super Scoopers are skimming off 1,500 gallons of seawater at a time and dumping it with high precision on the fires.

Using seawater to fight fires can sound like a simple solution – the Pacific Ocean has a seemingly endless supply of water. In emergencies like Southern California is facing, it’s often the only quick solution, though the operation can be risky amid ocean swells.

But seawater also has downsides.

Saltwater corrodes firefighting equipment and may harm ecosystems, especially those like the chaparral shrublands around Los Angeles that aren’t normally exposed to seawater. Gardeners know that small amounts of salt – added, say, as fertilizer – does not harm plants, but excessive salts can stress and kill plants.
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And in the midst of this there is talk of "conditions" to be placed on fire aid because....
 
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