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looking for help to pop tire on the rim back

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akhon

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vader
hey,

tried to change a tire and replace battery on tpms. all good except last step: can’t pop tubeless tire back on the rim. ratchet strap, brake cleaner didn’t help.

any advices how to pop it back in place?

motorcycle is k1600gtl, it’s front michelin tire.
i’m in Daly City and can bring tire to someone who can do it!
 
I'm too far away to help, but if the tire is on the rim, any tire shop should be able to air the bead on for a small fee.
Good luck.
 
I didn't think you could successfully replace the battery in a BMW TPMS sensor?
If you pulled the bead outside of the wheel,
without a pretty good pile of the right tools (3 tire levers, rim savers, tire lube, etc) a touring tire is near impossible to put the bead back on.
If you're talking about seating the bead, you need a pretty good volume of air.
Bring it to any tire shop and they'll seat it for a box of donuts.
 
What sort of air source are you using?

I had to buy an air compressor with a tank that could be filled up to 120 psi or so the last time I needed a strong air source.
 
Lonster said:
I'm too far away to help, but if the tire is on the rim, any tire shop should be able to air the bead on for a small fee.
Good luck.
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thanks a lot! i tried one shop yesterday (thanks for quick help) but no luck :(
 
dravnx said:
I didn't think you could successfully replace the battery in a BMW TPMS sensor?
If you pulled the bead outside of the wheel,
without a pretty good pile of the right tools (3 tire levers, rim savers, tire lube, etc) a touring tire is near impossible to put the bead back on.
If you're talking about seating the bead, you need a pretty good volume of air.
Bring it to any tire shop and they'll seat it for a box of donuts.
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yeah, replacing the battery was the easiest thing in this journey so far. batteries on Amazon is around $10 for a small pile with soldering tips, so you don't need to heat up a battery with a chance of killing it.

i tried to use wire-test for sensor but wasn't able to spin it long enough to make it working, so i taped sensor to rear tire and tested it while bike was on center stand. it required to "run" for 10-15 seconds at speed about 30MPH to activate it and send data to the dash. dunno how i'm gonna test rear sensor next time, lol

i texted few shops around and got no replies so far...
 
BillSmith said:
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yeah, i tried brake cleaner and it didn't pop enough to seat tire well. going to use oreilly quick start spray today. will let you know if i survive :laughing
 
akhon said:
yeah, i tried brake cleaner and it didn't pop enough to seat tire well. going to use oreilly quick start spray today. will let you know if i survive :laughing
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Just make sure that you get enough of it inside the tire.

And be sure somebody records it, in case anything "interesting" happens. :teeth
 
ScottRNelson said:
Just make sure that you get enough of it inside the tire.

And be sure somebody records it, in case anything "interesting" happens. :teeth
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:laughing

tire is in place. nobody hurt. no hair burnt. thanks for the video with tractor. it gave me an idea about amount of spray to put in.

i'm working alone, so no recording, sorry. nothing interesting tho
 
Yah, ether is the correct stuff.... leaving it out in the sun for a bit helps too....all sop for field work :)/
 
Must be a very volatile fluid. Must spray enough to produce the pop. Must apply the flame before the mist dissipates. Must be crazy enough to do the preceding.

Agree to leaving it in the sun. Warm tire has better flex. Though by definition, the mechanic must rest under the shade tree.
 
BillSmith said:
Must be a very volatile fluid. Must spray enough to produce the pop. Must apply the flame before the mist dissipates. Must be crazy enough to do the preceding.
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When I was a little kid, my father had a Cushman motor scooter. He used to start it by raising the seat, removing the spark plug, pouring some either into the cylinder, and quickly replacing the plug before kicking it over. That thing would light off with a huge BANG!

He said he had to do this because it had a cracked head. It wasn’t until many years later that I figured out why the head was cracked.
 
Be independent and safer next time...

Purchase an cordless inflation kit like this Ridgid for about 109 to 139 you get tool + battery + charger...

Tip...
To pop a tire back onto the rim you need volumes of air so remove the valve core then inflate...
 

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Busy Little Shop said:
Be independent and safer next time...

Purchase an cordless inflation kit like this Ridgid for about 109 to 139 you get tool + battery + charger...

Tip...
To pop a tire back onto the rim you need volumes of air so remove the valve core then inflate...
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someday… i have ridgid driver already and like it. was thinking to get impact wrench and have the same battery family. never thought about inflation kit tho, i’ll check it, thanks.

valve was out btw, unfortunately bmw has tiny stem in the spoke which doesn’t let huge volume of air to get in easily.
 
Busy Little Shop said:
Purchase an cordless inflation kit like this Ridgid for about 109 to 139 you get tool + battery + charger...
Click to expand...

That option might work for seating a tire that is cooperating (holding air). In the OP's situation I suspect it would not provide enough volume. Tires that do not sit properly into the well portion of the rim require a lot of air delivered in a short period of time to expand the bead enough to create a seal.

Tires are often shipped with plastic straps that tightly compress the sidewall, remove them immediately. Over time these can deform the tire preventing it from contacting the rim correctly. Heat, time and lube are you friends when this occurs. As the tire warms up the sidewalls will become more pliable, lube helps seal small leaks and also allows the bead to slide freely on the rim. A ratchet strap can also help compress the tire so it fully contacts the rim.

On cold days getting a tire with a stiff sidewall onto a rim can be a struggle. In the past I created a "hot box" using a space heater and a blanket to warm tires up. These days I use tire warmers to quickly get the rubber up to temp.
 
Busy Little Shop said:
Be independent and safer next time...

Purchase an cordless inflation kit like this Ridgid for about 109 to 139 you get tool + battery + charger...

Tip...
To pop a tire back onto the rim you need volumes of air so remove the valve core then inflate...
Click to expand...

Tried one of those since I have other ridgid tools...
It over heated on my first tire....returned it the next day.: |
 
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