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Losing the front?

ThinkFast said:
Ever thought about trying on a track?
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I'm not going too crazy. I was entering at 48 and end up slowing through the curve to about 42. I usually take the inside and once in a while cars try to pass on the outside, and sometimes others will try to follow.

I'm not sure the statistical likelihood of hitting spray on the track vs anywhere else. But then I know what you're going to say.
 
The best advice I ever got was from the online course from Yamaha School of Champions. It's this:

When do you go to the brakes? When you get nervous.

When do you release the brakes? WHEN YOU ARE HAPPY WITH YOU SPEED AND DIRECTION.

When do you begin to accelerate? WHEN YOU CAN BEGIN TO TAKE AWAY LEAN ANGLE.

To me the biggest was being happy with your speed and lean angle. Trail breaking with that in mind helps me eliminate the "oh shit, am I in too hot?" feeling. If you feel your too hot, gently brake a little longer.
I know this doesn't address the peg issue, but like dragging a knee it shouldn't be the goal in a corner, rather control in the corner is much more important, and will reward you with more speed in the long run, and one day the peg will touch almost as a surprise. The online Yamaha School of Champions is well worth the money imo.
 
I think I have to be close. It seems I am riding at the edge of comfort and it just isn't going to happen without more entry speed which also probably isn't going to happen.
 
Not quite show your tits but just look at that peg - pathetic!

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I have concluded what's happening is I'm just trying to lean more and there isn't enough traction there to do so. As a matter of fact, I was looking at the surface again and it really is as pitiful as that peg, but in another way.

I stop pushing that turn. It's a right turn and I think like most, is the less dominate side. Just a regular left turn at an intersection and I did hit that peg - rather my foot usually touches first.
 
I mean, if you just want to drag the peg, find a corner with negative camber and go ride it till you touch. Positive camber (banking) is going to make it harder to touch pavement with your peg.
 
well you know it's for building confidence knowing the physical limits for when i need to go there vs. the psychological that might lead to bad actions
 
Best advice I have for when you do get close to spooking yourself is: breathe. For building confidence, I think a long spirited ride is better than repeating the same corner over and over. IME.
 
ctwo said:
Well of course and I've been riding pretty much all the time since I gave away both of my cars in the last year.
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I look forward to when I can make a decision like that :laughing :ride
 
I'm not sure why dragging hard parts is a goal. It seems to me that dragging parts means you are absolutely railing beyond the limits of the machine, or your body position is wrong, or both.

I'm with Bud - if your front feels like it's pushing, it might be time for new tires. At the least, keep an eye on your tire pressures.
 
I scraped my center stand on the way in today, whoopsie
 
ctwo said:
My last bike didn't even have a center stand. That shouldn't be able to happen.
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Agreed. It’s the hard part closest to the ground, too bad it doesn’t have a hinge like the foot pegs. Have to be careful not to lever the rear off the road, so when it starts scraping I stop increasing my lean angle :laughing
 
I was going to say Kevin Schwantz, but there were others who also were very fast with their chest centered over the triple clamps.

However... not exactly like the photo. They get their ass off the seat.
 
Practice sliding on a dirt bike.

It's much more forgiving. I got used to sliding both tires in certain corners in the dirt. There was usually a berm or crest involved so it was never too scary. It's actually kinda fun when you figure it out because you end up steering the bike with the rear end. Riding in wet sand is a good way to experience this. (think Jawbone in the rain) I think it helps to have your butt off of the seat while this is happening because there's usually whoop-de-doos involved on the way out. It feels like you're floating if you can slide in and then wheelie out skimming the whoops.

Every now and then I lose front end grip on my Ducati. I think it's usually caused by debris on the pavement. It's always been momentary and then comes back. It's amazing how well it handles. Sticky tires make a big difference too. I think if you can figure out how to steer your bike with the rear by using balance and throttle control, sliding the front end becomes less likely. I think you need to get your braking done before the apex of the corner so that you can be on the gas coming out instead of having to manage traction on the front end. So when you come into that cloverleaf, get your braking done early so that you can feed it gas the whole way through and transfer weight to the rear of the bike. I've never ridden a sport bike on a track so I don't know what that's like. I used to scrape the pegs on my Honda Interceptor, but my feet scrape first on the Ducati.

If you can increase the rebound dampening in your forks (slow it down), I think that might help.
 
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