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MOTOGP 2011- Jerez, ESPAÑA 4/1-4/3

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Pedrosa deserves one god damn year on a bike without being held back by injury, which he has never had. He has ridden the Honda better than anyone since Rossi was on it, before of course Stoner got on it, no disrespect to Hayden.

wont ever happen. his body does not crash well. like all true heroes, its his one great failing.
 
and of course breaking the record for most points in a single season while only finishing off the podium once, and those pesky nine wins lol
...with a little help from Rossi having a bad shoulder all season and that pesky little issue of a compound fracture of his lower leg early in the season.
 
I got a kick out of that GPOne link about Stoner praising his BP. and then today they were talking about Rossi trying out a tank grip pad.

BARF riding truisms getting proven.
 
no one here is a bigger fan of rossi than me, but jorge owned it last year and was seriously good. even IF rossi were there, jorge still would have won mad races and contested for the title.

of all the up and comers I think jorge is the most legit, even more so than casey. my only worry about jorge is that yamaha may go yamaha and have one or two of their years where they get complacent and not match what honda is putting out. they tend do do that over the years
 
It DOES help if the whole bike was designed for you. ;)
Of course this helps, but he rode the hell out of that 990 when he got on it.
wont ever happen. his body does not crash well. like all true heroes, its his one great failing.
He'll be like Randy Mamola, the fastest man never to win a championship.

...with a little help from Rossi having a bad shoulder all season and that pesky little issue of a compound fracture of his lower leg early in the season.

You could trace all of Rossi's championships to luck too. Actually you can trace all success to luck.
 
Of course this is true. But he rode the hell out of that 990 when he got on it.

He'll be like Randy Mamola, the fastest man never to win a championship.



You could trace all of Rossi's championships to luck too. Actually you can trace all success to luck.



actually I would consider rossi's greatest asset to be his luck....his personality as wel, but luck most of all.

dani wont ever win a title. EVER
 
of all the up and comers I think jorge is the most legit, even more so than casey.

Really? He stepped onto the bike that was the best on the grid, according to you, and that perfectly suited his style that he never had to fight against. How do you figure he's more legit than Casey or Dani?
 
Of course this helps, but he rode the hell out of that 990 when he got on it.

Not as well as Nicky rode it.
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I'm sorry but you can't sit there and tell me that Dani Pedrosa is the best Honda rider "since Rossi" when Pedrosa hasn't won a World Championship on a MotoGP Honda -- and Hayden has.

Is Pedrosa faster on the 800's than Hayden? Is he consistently faster than Hayden since 2006? Yes.

However, Pedrosa hasn't won a championship and Hayden has. I'm sorry, but that makes Hayden a better "Honda rider" than Pedrosa. Just because Pedrosa can go fast and be at the front often, dosen't mean dick if he can't stay on his bike and keep himself from getting hurt and knocking himself out of championship after championship. If I was manufacturer I'd prefer a guy who wins a championship, rather than one who wins some races, runs up front and crashes / hurts himself the rest of the time.

And before you (or anyone else) starts, no I'm not saying Hayden is as good or as fast as Dani. I'm just saying, there was a better Honda rider since Rossi, and his name wasn't Pedrosa.
 
There was a more successful Honda rider, not a better one. Dani is frail as hell physically, so when he gets in a small crash, where Hayden would get bruised, he gets broken. That is not his fault.
 
as fast as dani(more so) without all the body size issues.

as fast as casey with, so far, a much better ability to fight a dog fight(casey is still up in the air so far). more consistent than casey. I also think he isnt as mentally soft as casey when it comes to what is said about him, the perseption of him, all that.

casey is fast as a god but hes a winey little bitch.
that being said casey will fight for the title this year obviously.
 
There was a more successful Honda rider, not a better one. Dani is frail as hell physically, so when he gets in a small crash, where Hayden would get bruised, he gets broken. That is not his fault.

yes it is. hit the fucking weight room. its ENTIRELY his fault
 
You don't know how much that'd actually help him. You don't have any proof to back up your claim, even though I agree with you to he should try.

you need proof that a greater % of muscle mass will help him from breaking bones?

theres mountains of proof that weight lifting increases bone density. a greater % of muscle would quite easily prtoect him, make his body more restent to crash ect.

dani has one great weakness and appears to have done NOTHING to address it

it would help him more than doing nothing
 
as fast as dani(more so) without all the body size issues.

as fast as casey with, so far, a much better ability to fight a dog fight(casey is still up in the air so far). more consistent than casey. I also think he isnt as mentally soft as casey when it comes to what is said about him, the perseption of him, all that.

casey is fast as a god but hes a winey little bitch.
that being said casey will fight for the title this year obviously.

Try reading Jorge's biography and tell me he doesn't care about what people think about him. His antics after races, and what he has said regarding how he wants to be the most loved rider in the paddock are totally against your theory IMHO.

Rossi has already crashed two or three times since he got on the Duc, fucking Rossi, the guy that never crashes unless he's fighting for first lol, and you're trying to tell me that Casey's crashing is entirely due to him? Perhaps it is because he actually wanted to win on the bike rather than be stuck back in 11th place with Nicky.

How is Casey whiny? He's honest, so if voicing your displeasure about something when someone asks how you feel about something is whiny, okay.
 
I will agree with Jacksprat here. I don't find Casey Stoner to be whiny, nor do I think his mental toughness or ability to fight it out is in question. Yes, he had an illness that made him unable to compete and yes he bitched that Valentino Rossi passing him on the dirt at Laguna, after hitting him, was "too close" (and I'd agree, but fuck it was fun to watch!), but as Jacksprat said... voicing your displeasure isn't necessarily whining... it's being honest with a particular situation.

Now if he does nothing to fix the issue and keeps bitching, then yes, he's whining.... but I haven't seen that. He left Ducati afterall.....
 
...You could trace all of Rossi's championships to luck too. Actually you can trace all success to luck.

All nine world titles? Every single win? Yeah, skill is over rated it's really all about luck :rofl
 
and of course breaking the record for most points in a single season while only finishing off the podium once, and those pesky nine wins lol

It cerainly helps when two out of the top three guys crash out with injury too.

But MYOB, that post wasn't directed at you anyway :twofinger
 
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