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My Neighbors two pitbulls attacked a small dog

kevin 714 said:
Update on that. The customer I was working for called the police, as this was not the first time it's happened. The dog is set to be put down it seems


Sucks. All around sucks
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No it doesn't.

The owner had a vicious animal and couldn't control it and that animal is being put down. I don't get the over emotional response people have to these events unless you are a vegetarian. Most people don't bat an eye eating the remains of dead animals but mention putting down a dog and they get all teary eyed.

You were attacked by a goddamn animal. If you are not the type that goes home and cries over some poor calf, chicken or little sheep whose body parts were the source of your yummy lunch, then you don't have to feel bad over any vicious animal getting dispatched for attacking you.
 
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m_asim said:
No it doesn't.

The owner had a vicious animal and couldn't control it and that animal is being put down. I don't get the over emotional response people have to these events unless you are a vegetarian. Most people don't bat an eye eating the remains of dead animals but mention putting down a dog and they get all teary eyed.

You were attacked by a goddamn animal. If you are not the type that goes home and cries over some poor calf, chicken or little sheep whose body parts were the source of your yummy lunch, then you don't have to feel bad over any vicious animal getting dispatched for attacking you.
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Exactly, it's a dog, put that ish down
 
I don't enjoy inflicting pain, even when it's justified and required.

Just bevause it needs to be done (and it does need to be put down) doesn't mean I'm happy about it. Yes the dog is a problem, yes it's time to end that problem. Doesn't mean I can't feel bad that the situation came to that, for a variety of reasons.
 
It does suck in that it is an emotional event. Firstly being attacted, then having to defend yourself with a pipe :wtf

It is a primal experience, this is tough on most of us; add in the law enforcement component and the subsequent bureaucratic process and whole thing sucks big time.

Sorry that anyone has to go through this. Not sorry to see a vicious dog put down.

Our dog, if you don't belong here, will prevent you from entering our yard. If you come in anyway, then precede down the dock, and choose to step foot on my boat he's already given warning. If I'm not home, you might need stitches.
 
m_asim said:
No it doesn't.

The owner had a vicious animal and couldn't control it and that animal is being put down. I don't get the over emotional response people have to these events unless you are a vegetarian. Most people don't bat an eye eating the remains of dead animals but mention putting down a dog and they get all teary eyed.

You were attacked by a goddamn animal. If you are not the type that goes home and cries over some poor calf, chicken or little sheep whose body parts were the source of your yummy lunch, then you don't have to feel bad over any vicious animal getting dispatched for attacking you.
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Yup. If a dog takes a nip at you, ehh. It's a warning sign not to be ignored. If it attacks a human for no reason, yeah it's a dangerous dog and needs quarantine or to be put down/
 
Hit an attacking German Shepherd in the head with a huge rock when I was a kid.

I didn't feel the slightest bit bad about it, fuck that dog and its owners.
 
ThumperX said:
Our dog, if you don't belong here, will prevent you from entering our yard. If you come in anyway, then precede down the dock, and choose to step foot on my boat he's already given warning. If I'm not home, you might need stitches.
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Nothing wrong with that. This is dog's doing his job.

However, I have seen dogs with dementia at one of my friend's place. One moment they are playing with me and the next moment they are showing their teeth and nipping at me as I try to make my way out of the house.
 
This seems relevant, but don't take it as a tough guy thing or professional training advice.

I had a girlfriend who rescued a massive golden retriever named Sampson- this dog was so muscle bound it would put Arnold and Sylvester to shame on their best roid cycles. It also had a temperament issue where it would obey occasionally and snap at you if you gave it a stern command. She was way to sweet with this dog and let him get away with murder (not literally of course, but if a small child were to ever be involved..) I took him out for a bathroom break and he decided to try to bolt on leash. I corrected him quickly and he lunged at me. At the time I was much stronger and had my reactions (and temper) honed from the height of my time in the infantry. I punched him square on the top of the head mid lunge so hard he went straight to the ground and bounced his head off the pavement. Put him on his back and held him down with a firm throat grab until he submitted. The dog never to a shot at another person again and was a truly loving animal for the rest of his life.

Luckily we had our conversation about who was in charge in the relationship before he could create an regrettable issue, but many people are not motivated to do this, or they try reasoning with it as if it were a person and had our social mores. Sadly, there are still a few dogs that will never change regardless of the training.
 
m_asim said:
No it doesn't.

The owner had a vicious animal and couldn't control it and that animal is being put down. I don't get the over emotional response people have to these events unless you are a vegetarian. Most people don't bat an eye eating the remains of dead animals but mention putting down a dog and they get all teary eyed.

You were attacked by a goddamn animal. If you are not the type that goes home and cries over some poor calf, chicken or little sheep whose body parts were the source of your yummy lunch, then you don't have to feel bad over any vicious animal getting dispatched for attacking you.
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No, the person is just a bitch for wanting that animal to be put down.

News flash: some dogs are aggressive n overly protective. Accidents happen. Ive been "attacked" numerous times by many different breeds. Got the scars to prove it. And id never ask or want the dog to be put to death. Shit, when my son was 2yrs old, a neighbor was walking his two black labs on leash. My son slowly approached, the neighbor expressed how his dogs were friendly and loved kids. One started licking my sons face, the other was kind of uninterested. Literally outta nowhere, the uninterested one growled hella loud and launched at my sons face. The neighbor yanked on the leash jus in time and my son got away with jus one puncture hole under his chin.

Now, of course i was upset and willing to kill that dog to protect my son IF the dog was continually attacking him. But he wasnt, case closed. The neighbor was trembling, apoligising nonstop, and honestly i think he was scared i was gonna beat his ass to the ground. I told him dont worry about it, accidents happen.

Do i think that dog has the potential to "attack" again? Sure. Do i feel it justifies putting that dog to death? Fuck no. In probably 99% of "attacks", its the owners fault. Even this thread, 100% the owners fault for allowing their dogs to run loose. Pitbulls tend to have a high prey drive, its what they are. So we shoukd kill them, for their owners stupidity? Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit. Take the dogs away if the owners truely are incapable of bein responsible pitbull owners, and allow them the chance to still live a happy life with better owners. I mean fuck... if a dog is considered a problem, and constantly runnin loose and attackin other animals or people, whats that tell you? The owners are fuckin dipshits and csnt keep their dog in line. So... the owners are pieces of shit that have no business owning a pet rock, let alone a pitbull, and your fix to that problem is, forget the ownets and kill the dog? Yea... that makes a shit ton of sense.:rolleyes

And your comparison to animals that are killed for food is bogus. Youre not even comparing apples to oranges. Youre comparing apples to fuckin elephants.

Fact: a huge portion of "pitbull" attacks arent even pitbulls.
 
The Reaper said:
So we shoukd kill them, for their owners stupidity? Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit. Take the dogs away if the owners truely are incapable of bein responsible pitbull owners, and allow them the chance to still live a happy life with better owners. I mean fuck... if a dog is considered a problem, and constantly runnin loose and attackin other animals or people, whats that tell you? The owners are fuckin dipshits and csnt keep their dog in line. So... the owners are pieces of shit that have no business owning a pet rock, let alone a pitbull, and your fix to that problem is, forget the ownets and kill the dog? Yea... that makes a shit ton of sense.:rolleyes
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Yes, bad owners are the problem, but it often gets to a point where the dog most likely can't be rehabilitated. Out here in the real world, this "we" you speak of above is an agency that has real liability if they re-home a dog and the dog subsequently attacks someone else. They won't take the chance any longer. That changed for good when Dianne Whipple was killed by two Presa Canarios.
 
tzrider said:
Yes, bad owners are the problem, but it often gets to a point where the dog most likely can't be rehabilitated. Out here in the real world, this "we" you speak of above is an agency that has real liability if they re-home a dog and the dog subsequently attacks someone else. They won't take the chance any longer. That changed for good when Dianne Whipple was killed by two Presa Canarios.
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That makes alot of sense actually. I didnt even think of the liability of adoption/rescue shelters.

I dunno.... its just hard for me because ive seen some of the most blood thirsty "killers" be turned around. I just dont believe that theres no hope for some dogs. Aside from actual mental circumstances, i believe every "problem dog" has the ability to be a good housrhold pet.

Maybe im jus bein naive though.:dunno
 
The Reaper said:
That makes alot of sense actually. I didnt even think of the liability of adoption/rescue shelters.

I dunno.... its just hard for me because ive seen some of the most blood thirsty "killers" be turned around. I just dont believe that theres no hope for some dogs. Aside from actual mental circumstances, i believe every "problem dog" has the ability to be a good housrhold pet.

Maybe im jus bein naive though.:dunno
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dunno on that/ I raised my last Pit just like the current one. He was a mean sumbitch no two ways about it. The current is as sweet as Grandma's apple pie with two scoops of ice cream. The last one did like small dogs, puppies, and cats. It just had a thing about every other living creature.
 
afm199 said:
dunno on that/ I raised my last Pit just like the current one. He was a mean sumbitch no two ways about it. The current is as sweet as Grandma's apple pie with two scoops of ice cream. The last one did like small dogs, puppies, and cats. It just had a thing about every other living creature.
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Like i said.... prey drive. It doesnt always show itself towards ALL other animals. Was he papered? If so, what bloodlines was he?
 
:deadhorse:deadhorse:deadhorse Ban the owner, not the breed. If you own any sort of animal / pet, or whatever it might be then you are responsible for it,period. Unless you are a dog then you don't know what is going on in that dogs head.

Could be a mixture of things: prey drive, irresponsible owners, territorial issues, then the second dog came because it wants a piece of the action:teeth
 
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People have proven for 10,000 years personal accountability is RARE. You cannot expect people to be personally responsible, on a macro level
 
kevin 714 said:
People have proven for 10,000 years personal accountability is RARE. You cannot expect people to be personally responsible, on a macro level
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Word. Fuk that shit raise hell and get it on:thumbup
 
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