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New Boss wants Cc on all emails

They are same companies that hire people who have no other choice, and will be first ones to jump ship.
 
True. If you're entry level out of college or an internship, you kinda take what you can get. Or people that have been out of work for awhile...
 
Another one of those things that would have me looking for a new company.

LOL, 10-15 years ago, people thought it was strange that I have always obfuscated my identity online since there have been intarwebz.

Now, not so much...

:laughing
 
Yep, access to everything... It was a new position, career change for me at the same company, and I had a long standing legacy from where I came.

Quarterly password changes are required, and perhaps mine happened a little early, and then I had to do the forgotten password reset thing a few times. That's all I remember about it. But the boss was a really cool dude. Fought in wars, rode a Harley in the toys-for-tots drives and such, and gave good raises.

If I had to put up with that, I'd be bcc'ing every email I composed to an external address so I can have my own record of everything I sent. In reality though, I'd just quit. that's an insane policy.
 
Login credentials for what? If they have access to your logins, not only can they read your emails but they can send emails as if they were you. At this point, a manager with this access can basically gin up any reason to fire you.

This is a massive red flag and I'd be speaking with HR.

You say that like HR isn't on Management's side? :laughing
 
My manager was a micromanager, so I got the Lego Micromanager Bot from the Lego movie and put it on my desk. He never got it.

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Don't you mean all of your login credentials for your social media accounts? :twofinger :laughing

Note: Some companies have required that.

Another one of those things that would have me looking for a new company.

yeh, that would be a deal killer for me as well. (even though my social media footprint is considerably smaller these days)
 
Company man :thumbup

I worked as a tech at IBM a long while back with the pleasure of having a Mr. Dougald Bottomly as my supervisor on special projects. There were certain procedures that were completely unnecessary, but he would diligently perform them, and require everyone do the same. We discussed this and he explained integrity and that the company pays his salary to do a certain job, not to make make decisions outside of his purview. The discussion was more elegant than that but he earned a good bit of respect with me.

:thumbup

Yes. Part of what I get paid for is being really good at bureaucratic stuff. The other part is the opposite. So I also get paid to think of new ways to do things.

Feeling very blessed. I also have an LLC that does similar things. I finally got to a point where work doesn't even feel like work. My second favorite job was being a gardener. Liked being outside and making things grow.
 
Is that odd? They say it's because they want to learn more about the operation and how people do their jobs, as a training exercise...

Not uncommon these days, especially for a new boss coming into the corp. If they've been there before, a bit less important. If taking over a sudden departure, it's essential as a boss/ manager. Not sure why people get so creeped out by it, though.

As the boss, I've asked for this from Department heads and not had adherence from some. That talk, to add to emails is not a fun one. I don't read most of the emails, but I can be brought up to speed on items that need familiarization across the country.

Look at it this way: it saves you a ton of time having to 'splain things to the boss.

If it is a networked computer at work, they may be able to read it already.

Or hosted mail. Even easier.

Probably depends on how big the company is...

5 total employees? Not a big deal, IMO
100+ employees? Your boss has control issues.

Agree...only one tier if managers down stream IMO.

This is normal but not efficient.

My experience is just the opposite: It's very efficient. I can catch up on operations at any time and know what's going on without being there (for the most part). It does take a lot of time, but I only skim for the important stuff...mostly interaction with other department heads and outside parties.
 
My manager was a micromanager, so I got the Lego Micromanager Bot from the Lego movie and put it on my desk. He never got it.

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I reported to a stellar manager for damn near a decade. He just... let me do my job. And helped clear road blocks.

Some goofus up on high decided to re-org. I ended up working for what I call a nano-manager. And he was a condescending asshole on top of it.

Bro, you want me to do my job or do you want to tie me up in stupid shit and second guess literally everything I do? And tell me what I am doing is not useful (when in fact it kept his ass in a job).

You know how they say you quit your boss, not your job? Yeah.

Reported to his ass for 6 months and then he got shitcanned. Ball was already rolling so I quit a few months later.
 
Years ago I made a promise to myself to never again remain working for a boss that I thought was an asshole. At the time, I was working full time and going to school full time to change to another field. As soon as I completed my classes I left his idiot section. They had 32 contractors and 8 direct employees. By the time that I had left, they had gotten rid of 24 contractors and 4 direct employees as we were getting towards the end of the project (military contract involving MX missile). He hated me but didn't dare get rid of me because I made him look good at the TIM's (technical interchange meetings).
He was the manager but he was butt-hurt that everybody came to me for advice on how to handle the work they were doing. I was essentially doing his job.
 
Years ago I made a promise to myself to never again remain working for a boss that I thought was an asshole. At the time, I was working full time and going to school full time to change to another field. As soon as I completed my classes I left his idiot section. They had 32 contractors and 8 direct employees. By the time that I had left, they had gotten rid of 24 contractors and 4 direct employees as we were getting towards the end of the project (military contract involving MX missile). He hated me but didn't dare get rid of me because I made him look good at the TIM's (technical interchange meetings).
He was the manager but he was butt-hurt that everybody came to me for advice on how to handle the work they were doing. I was essentially doing his job.

As the saying goes, people don't quit jobs, they quit managers.

I was pretty damn close to jumping ship a couple years ago as well, to the point I actually tossed my resume out to a few places, because of a project manager that constantly treated me like a dummy and often with little respect.
 
Had they not reorged, I would not have left, no question.

I think it turned out to be a good career move tho.

What blew me away was the a-hole who drove me to leave was shocked when I left. Mind-blowingly clueless.
 
Had they not reorged, I would not have left, no question.

I think it turned out to be a good career move tho.

What blew me away was the a-hole who drove me to leave was shocked when I left. Mind-blowingly clueless.
Not surprising. Those types are sociopaths and you're supposed to go along with their plans which are always in their personal best interests. They completely lack empathy, everything is about them.
 
Yeah, this guy in particular is full on psychotic. Literally everyone who deals with him for more than 10 minutes will hate his guts. I sincerely do not know how he made it as far as he did. Or how he doesn’t constantly have black eyes and missing teeth.

Despite my workload tripling after he got shitcanned, my stress level dropped dramatically. But the damage had already been done.
 
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Figure that out, incorporate it into your neural net processor and you can own the world.
 
I just don’t understand people who wake up in the morning and make it their daily goal to be a complete cunt to everyone they deal with.

This dude got pretty far until he pissed off the wrong, very high level person and got blackballed from a multi billion dollar global corporation.

Maybe he got so used to being a cunt and getting away with it, he figured he could conquer the world. Until he couldn’t.
 
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