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New crotch-rocket...

Dunno if you're still looking at this thread, Webber, but if so...

There's a lot of good advice been posted already. Here's a tiny bit more. I just bought my first bike on June 1. I bought a bike that wasn't in mint condition for the reasons Budbandit said: I knew I'd have a good chance of dropping it. So I got a used bike that looked good but wasn't "cherry." It also was at a price that I can resell it for very close to what I paid, and it fits the balance of what I'd LIKE to be doing and what I NEED to be doing (as a newbie). (It's a 1989 Honda Hawk (NT650).)

Anyway, I hope you will listen to Budbandit's (and others') advice and not succumb to the desire to be way cool right off the bat.

Hope to see you at a BARF ride soon!
 
Webberposuer:

Why not just go for a new 2003 GSXR 1000? I mean, your argument back to BudBandit will hold all the way out to the 1K, won't it?

And you guys should be ashamed to try to sell this guy your used 600's. Do you need the money that badly that you'd be willing to get this guy hurt? Nice BARF comraderie, eh?

Try a Ninja 250, Bandit 600, or any of the other bikes mentioned.. that weren't race replicas.

Most of these guys saying they started on an R6 or a Gixxer 6 can't ride for beans anyway, they just want you as slow-*er* company so they do look bad on their 600's...

It all goes back to what the Bandit was saying... people who ride shitty look stupid-*er* on a hypersport than anyone else on the road.
 
Donnie Darko said:
Webberposuer:

Why not just go for a new 2003 GSXR 1000? I mean, your argument back to BudBandit will hold all the way out to the 1K, won't it?

And you guys should be ashamed to try to sell this guy your used 600's. Do you need the money that badly that you'd be willing to get this guy hurt? Nice BARF comraderie, eh?

Try a Ninja 250, Bandit 600, or any of the other bikes mentioned.. that weren't race replicas.

Most of these guys saying they started on an R6 or a Gixxer 6 can't ride for beans anyway, they just want you as slow-*er* company so they do look bad on their 600's...

It all goes back to what the Bandit was saying... people who ride shitty look stupid-*er* on a hypersport than anyone else on the road.
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This is bullshit.....Too much weight is based soley on the bike, and not on the 'mindset' to riding and riding instruction/classes.

Are you telling me that if two unexperienced riders (one with Bandit 600 and a gsxr 600) both take the msf, have a few months to get comfortable with their bikes, and then both take say 4 track classes in a year....that the guy with the Bandit 600 will be a better rider???

How about this scenario.....a guy has a ninja 250 and rides street for a year, and a guy has a gsxr 600 and starts taking track classes after 6 months....Are you telling me that after one year, the guy with the 250 will be a better rider???

No one should feel ashamed to try and sell their 600s....there should be more concern about a riders mental approach to riding, and how to increase the experience level (thru instruction/practice) to become a better rider.

Im sure there are alot of good riders that have started on 600 sportbike class bikes....its the approach to the learning curve, that is the true issue.
 
Just buy a gixxer or a honda and take the plastics off ,set of frame sliders and go riding,sv"s, ex"s e.t.c all do over a 100 mph.
Your twisting the trottlle, 600, 1000s 125s can all be ridden easy.
You will know your limits,safe riding and enjoy.:loco
 
I have one of these for sale if you are interested: it's in cherry condition!
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you're willing to sell to a noob but not to me? :twofinger not that i was too serious but....
 
I was considering an 88 Hawk NT650 but it sold before I got out there to look at it. I've basically decided to stay away from the "plastic fantastics" as Budbandit said, and uhh, I'll basically be looking for a cruiser or some streetfighter-style bike. Thanks for all your input, boys and girls.
 
Look, go with what your learning abilities are...and only you know how quickly you can pick things up. Some people say get a 250....I bought a seca 600 for my first bike and rode it for 3 weeks and was ready to upgrade...Then I bought a new sv650s...next year, I ll work on my Gixx. If you learn really quickly and have time to spend riding....Id say get the 600, just get a 600 that is quite forgiving so you have enough cushion to build your confidence...You stunt you learning if you get something thats too much for you and you start second guessing yourself on turns and shit. But bottom line is it depends on your individual learning abilities....
 
Donnie Darko said:
Webberposuer:

Why not just go for a new 2003 GSXR 1000? I mean, your argument back to BudBandit will hold all the way out to the 1K, won't it?

And you guys should be ashamed to try to sell this guy your used 600's. Do you need the money that badly that you'd be willing to get this guy hurt? Nice BARF comraderie, eh?

Try a Ninja 250, Bandit 600, or any of the other bikes mentioned.. that weren't race replicas.

Most of these guys saying they started on an R6 or a Gixxer 6 can't ride for beans anyway, they just want you as slow-*er* company so they do look bad on their 600's...

It all goes back to what the Bandit was saying... people who ride shitty look stupid-*er* on a hypersport than anyone else on the road.
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:wtf :wtf :wtf

This has "IGNORANCE" written all over it. And so does this.

If you are a totally new rider i would tell you to get something smaller then a 600. If you have to get a 600 start out with a f4i.
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You're telling the guy not to get a 600, but if he does, to get an F4i? :wtf

Webberstyle, you're obviously gonna do what you want, and a number of good bikes have been mentioned here already. I started on a '96 Honda F3 and it was a good bike for a noob. Maybe I'm still slow because I started on a 600, as mentioned above, but it will not bore you. I'd recommend picking up a bike that may already be scratched up (WHATEVER the make/model), because there's high probability that you WILL drop it. Sliders are great for protection too. Just look for something older, it won't have as much power on tap to kick you in the ass, but will still be plenty of fun. :thumbup
 
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budbandit said:

One of the fucktarded things about Kalifornia is how concerned everyone is with image. You get your Gixxer 6 or whatever and I will still thrash your newbie ass up and down down 9, 84 or whatever with a cruiser until your wobbly newbie self eventually learns how to ride
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WTF??! We a bit full of our-self today aren't we?
 
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JnglstTICAL said:
WTF??! We a bit full of our-self today aren't we?
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Just trying to point out that one new to riding is likely to be slow for some time regardless of bike chosen. Best to accept and embrace that fact and get a bike that will be cheap and easy to fix when it goes down and easy to ride and unintimidating when it does not. I was also trying to plant the seed of "it is man and not machine". I know I am about a B rider at best and that is on a good day, but I wanted to make it very clear that much more than the machine it is the skills of the rider that count. Not sure what got into me that day, either seeing too many new R6's with hosed up bodywork or too much time eating vicodin and shooting at deer with 900cr ;-)
 
dude those guys are all writing check their asses cant afford and i'm ready to play some deep ass sand volleyball in my jeans!

watch out iceman!
 
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